c14se problem

[pie]

had a fone call of the g/f tonight saying her car is just reving flat out lol

she got it home now ive had chance to look at it and

when you go to start it it just revs straight to 5k ??? knock it off try again and the same :wtf:

done the push clock button mod to flash the codes

it came up with

171
169

any idea's or info would be great :thumb:

[phazer]

Sounds like either the idle valve is stuck open or a vac pipe has come off letting air into the inlet.

[pie]

all vacums look tidy but it was dark buddy

how many vacums are on a c14se?

[swedge]

Take the idle control valve out the end of the tb, will be held in with 2 torx bolts clean it carb cleaner or something similar

[pie]

cheers swedge

take these are common for icv to play up are they buddy

[swedge]

Most times when the idle plays up its to do with the icv they get covered in crud and stick sometimes

Check your vaccum pipes for splits too and aroun the inlet, spray some wd40 aroun where the inlet gasket is while te cars running I've the revs change you have a leak where you sprayed it

[novasrikev]

i would say the icv take out clean and measure it (cant remember the measurement of the top of my head think its 29mm)

should tell you in haynes how to set it

[pie]

cleaned the ICV valve up, put it together and still the same??

is the icv surposre to move or make a click noise?

[Lewis.]

should move when it's runing, it's just a stepper motor on a plunger.

are all vacuum pipes in good order? original hose is sh*t, there are 2 off the plenum, and 2 off the TB iirc

edit: servo pipe connected? lol

[pie]

lol servo pipe connected lew lol

when you hold you hand over the TB while its running it should cut out ya?

this dont f lol think its broke lol

sound like inlet may have a crack or something

[Lewis.]

certainly has an air leak then, just spray brake cleaner around the whole intake and see where it faulters.

[pie]

ive ripp the inlet off now lol

tb gasket didnt look the best

neither did the inler gasket

can you still but the TB gasket?

thanks

[John]

gasket paper or cornfalkes packet and a ball pein hammer ftw lol

[pie]

lol john

take it you cant buy the TB gasket then

[John]

I'm unsure tbh chap, Might be worth a call to your local dealer in the morning :)

[swedge]

Knowing vauxhall probably not, DIY gasket is easy enough to make lik John said with some cardboard and a small hammer lol

[pie]

why a hammer f lol

ive just it out in past f lol

pikey motor's FTW lol

[John]

Lightly tapping the edge with a ball pein "cuts" the gasket perfectly. Or you can use scissors lol

[swedge]

Lay the cardboard down where you need the gasket then tap around the edge with the hammer which cuts the gasket for a perfect match

[pie]

:thumb:

hope this will sort it now :)

[pie]

does the c14se need to have the water cool'd tb? or can it be by passed?

[phazer]

They can be bypassed on all engines, not going to make any difference to your current problem though lol

FWIW You should still be able to get the proper gasket from Vx as the C14 derivatives were used for a good while after the Nova.

[pie]

f lol i know it aint going to solve the prob lol

il give the main stealer's a ring in the morning

[swedge]

f lol i know it aint going to solve the prob lol

il give the main stealer's a ring in the morning


"awaits the usual, you need to buy 10 at a time crap lol"

[pie]

lol hope not mr swedge

[pie]

changed inlet gasket n TB gasket

checked all vac lines 2 on TB , 1 on inlet.....all fine

checked TPS n ICV and still goes staight to 5k when started

could it be ecu related?

when it start doing she said was was in 3rd flat out and revs never came down since that lol bloody women

[swedge]

Throttle cable sticking maybe?

[Southie]

Maybe the throttle has totally stuck open and isn't returning due to loads of gunk inside it.

[pie]

tb is cleaned out

cable moves freely

butterfly aint stuck as tha moves freely to

when its reving the butterfly is closed

[pie]

would the crank senor or ecu give this problem?

thanks

[John]

tb is cleaned out

cable moves freely

butterfly aint stuck as tha moves freely to

when its reving the butterfly is closed so when you put your hand over the inlet it stalls? If not you've still got a massive air leak somewhere.

[pie]

still trys to rev john

but at 5k would it stall ?

[John]

At 5krpm and your hand over the inlet you should be able to hear the air leak tbh chap. No air going into tb and no air leak = stall.

[mowgli]

Can i suggest wearing a pvc/rubber glove, or putting a large rag over the inlet to avoid possible injury

[mowgli]

Pie, are you sure she hasn't left her handbag on the throttle? lol

seriously, is the throttle cable ok?

[pie]

lol mowgli cable moves freely (has always been stiff on it)

day get better now the litle screws tha hold the icv have snapped as they been in n out so much fuking ggrrreat f lol

[swedge]

lol mowgli cable moves freely (has always been stiff on it)

day get better now the litle screws tha hold the icv have snapped as they been in n out so much fuking ggrrreat f lol


i feel your pain mate mine done the exact same lol had to drilla nd re-tap them

[John]

Can i suggest wearing a pvc/rubber glove, or putting a large rag over the inlet to avoid possible injury
I wouldn't use a glove in case it sucks it in. A rag like you say, or a nice flat piece of rubber mat :)

[mowgli]

i did mean one of these
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQp-QoMFaeIjazO3v8eHyCwc3VeQxY9UQRiNXeXYqV25cp2g7JI

i'm thinking of the sudden vacuum that stopping the airflow to a 1400 at 5k would cause, and skin isn't that strong..

[John]

So what was it mr pie?

[pie]

dont know yet john aint had chance to drill n tap the screws out lol

hoping to get in done in morning