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Hi peeps, i'm just being nosey really. Anyone got any good info on what used to be in the turbo kit for the c14se? any good pics of it fitted? Any other info? Ta. :)
I would imagine it to be the same as the 1.6 conversion, Courtney exhaust manifold, T2 turbo and 1.5mm spacer plate with fuelling done by 5th injector or trip switch to TPS, Good info in here from CG :)
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?67674-Courtney-turbo-con
Ta mr brush, that's an old thread! lol hmm i wonder how much management would be now...........
Omex 600 on eBay lol
Looms also
Paste this into google
site:pngclub.com 1.6 Courtney turbo
It'll bring up all the old archive threads :)
C16/14 used a 5th injector
C16/14 used a 5th injector
derty gyppo way of doing it!!!
John, do it right, PLEASE :)
cheers again bazil. I would prefer not to use a 5th injector if poss, And would prefer to use management. ( if i ever get it running that is! lol) is there an alternative to omex?
so the courtenay conversion used a t2? i guess getting the cr right would be a pain.
I looked into a 1.5 aluminimum alloy plate that bonds to the head from ferriday. But I'll be going low comp pistons etc and drop to 8:1 comp so I can run good boost,
DTA
OMEX
MEGASQUIRT
Depends on budget mate, don't overlook the gearbox and ratios, BIG advantage to runing ratios that suit your engine and power.
a 1.6 head is a good place to start compression ratio wise
a 1.6 head is a good place to start compression ratio wise
With the spacer on the 1.4?
Think here means just fit a e16 head, everyone is saying that it lowers the compression, but no one has actually measured it I dont think
I have a 1.6 moi head with no egr ports on it, so I'd guess it's an e head..... I will measure the combustion chamber soon.
E16 had EGR on it, so no idea what yours is Stu lol
Management wise DTA all the way imo. I wouldn't touch megasquirt with someone else's for a turbo build.
Stuartsquirt cumming in 2013 lol
Could it be a c16 head then?
C16 was also EGR I would have thought?
What's your issue with megasquirt then ? :)
I have a Megasquirt V3 ecu im thinking of using with my turbo conversion
Stuartsquirt cumming in 2013 lol
Could it be a c16 head then?
Well i hope it cums quicker than my pm reply:roll::plol
Somebody needs to measure the CC's in the heads and report back.Rather than going on hear'say measure them.
Dont forget,at the age they are now,they will undoubtedley need a skim so keep that in mind also.
I lost 2cc per chamber after a skim
Think here means just fit a e16 head, everyone is saying that it lowers the compression, but no one has actually measured it I dont think
ive measured the 12st, c14se and c16se. only problem is i cant find the measurements
ive measured the 12st, c14se and c16se. only problem is i cant find the measurements
doh!
This is certainly needed as a starting point in any turbo 8v
Think I will just buy a e16 head and measure it, but yeah bit of a unknown with what your buying skim wise
I have a 1300 bottom end with low comp 13N pistons in but needs a rebuild, if the e16 head gives the same CR on a standard 1300 bottom end the happy days, im also thinking the valves are bigger on a e16 head ?
Could it be a c16 head then?
Yes, C16 had NO egr
What's your issue with megasquirt then ? :)
I have a Megasquirt V3 ecu im thinking of using with my turbo conversion
Poor circuit design, non automotive grade parts, obsolete parts, can often be poorly made etc etc...
Think I will just buy a e16 head and measure it, but yeah bit of a unknown with what your buying skim wise
I have a 1300 bottom end with low comp 13N pistons in but needs a rebuild, if the e16 head gives the same CR on a standard 1300 bottom end the happy days, im also thinking the valves are bigger on a e16 head ?
on a 12st the 14se head will give 8:1 and the 16se 7:1
on a 12st the 14se head will give 8:1 and the 16se 7:1
Interesting
Don't suppose you know about a 13sb?
well as the 12st and 13sb heads are the same it should be the same results
Poor circuit design, non automotive grade parts, obsolete parts, can often be poorly made etc etc...
Cheap for a reason then
Cheap for a reason then
That's the thing, it could be better and cheaper by using upto date parts.
That's the thing, it could be better and cheaper by using upto date parts.
Well get cracking ffs lol and sort me out with a reliable mega cheap ecu :d
well as the 12st and 13sb heads are the same it should be the same results
I think he means if the bottom end is a 13sb?
Which would be different?
Interesting reading chaps. Yep sturat hurry up and make us some mappable ecus! lol Omex seems quite expensive? £1k for an ecu and a make it yourself loom or am i being a tightwad?! I'd prefer to use the c14 head and block and space accordingly. I take it the spacer uses 2 gaskets?
So i'd need to source a spacer, management, manifold, get a downpipe fabbed, turbo, intercooler+ pipework. Might have to do some more research lol
oh and where did the courtenay kit get an oil feed/return from?
Courtenay used a t peice adapter from the oil pressure sender for feed, kit for £20 of ebay, return is hole drilled in top of sump with pipe welded in
Can get a pic of mine if you like
Courtenay used a t peice adapter from the oil pressure sender for feed, kit for £20 of ebay, return is hole drilled in top of sump with pipe welded in
Can get a pic of mine if you like
That would be good, cheers edd. Send me a link to the adapter? :)
Ferriday engineering will do a aluminimum alloy plate that bonds to the head for £110, this means only 1 headgasket used, they could also cut you a spacer to use 2 gaskets and various thickness depending on your required cr,
Or cheep eBay steel one for £50 but personaly I wouldn't.
i got a Courtenay turbo sump well in fact i got a whole 1.6 turbo bottom end lol in my lock up
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i had in with a job lot of parts i bought, just the bottem end,pistons,crank, flywheel,
i had the idea of doing the g/f's c14se but cant be fook'd lol
no idea whats it worth hence ive never tryd to sell it lol
Pm me me pie if you want to sell it :)
John the thing with aftermarket ecua's is that they barely depreciate, so while upfront it's big money you don't lose out like to do with everything else.
John the thing with aftermarket ecua's is that they barely depreciate, so while upfront it's big money you don't lose out like to do with everything else.
Stu i will pm you when i have 5.
I think he means if the bottom end is a 13sb?
Which would be different?
doesnt matter if the heads are the same then the calculations for the 1.3 are the same
Interesting reading chaps. Yep sturat hurry up and make us some mappable ecus! lol Omex seems quite expensive? £1k for an ecu and a make it yourself loom or am i being a tightwad?! I'd prefer to use the c14 head and block and space accordingly. I take it the spacer uses 2 gaskets?
not necessarily, i know with ferriday copper spaces you just use blue hylomar between the block and spacer then the head gasker between the head and spacer
Very interesting :)
Just need a e16 head to dump on then :d
How about the Z16 SE or C16SE head? No EGR holes in them and easier to get?
Yeah that's a better idea mate :)
Iirc the C E Z camshaft is ideal aswell due to very little overlap, so I was told
Iirc the C E Z camshaft is ideal aswell due to very little overlap, so I was told
What's that out of bazil? C16?
Did when did the Z16SE come out? and is it still an 8v?
What's that out of bazil? C16?
Sorry John I ment E16 or C16 or Z16
Did when did the Z16SE come out? and is it still an 8v?
Yeah the Z16SE is just the updated C16 iirc Astra mk4 had them
Sorry I can't be more accurate but google image search would be your friend.
hmm there is no way in heck this 8V head I have is MK4 astra era.... so its got to be some oddball pre EGR days 1.6 head.
hmm there is no way in heck this 8V head I have is MK4 astra era.... so its got to be some oddball pre EGR days 1.6 head.
sv head? (1.6 carb) If i do go ahead here i'll prob just space the c14 head accordingly.
It's round ported, so not a Derty carb head.
I'll reply to the pm tomorrow am.
are you sure someone hasn't bunged the egr holes up really well?
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