gas or no gas...

[Alex J]

welders, anyone tried , or uses a gas , no gas welder on car welding?? i spent an hour in machine mart yesterday looking at them,still havent got one lol, but wasnt sure what to buy as im not up on whats good, and whats ****, post up anything you know of for around the £250-£300 complete, that i could buy! cheers for the help....

[SimonTW]

I have always thought about buying a welder but I would probably end up making a mess of whatever it is I'm welding. One thing I have always been told by professional welders though is avoid gasless!

[mowgli]

If you have an indoor or really sheltered place to weld, then get gas, it will be better.

[paul james]

Definitely get a gas one, if you didn't know already a MIG welder, and the more powerful you get the more thickness you can weld. While most metal on a nova isn't too thick, you may well end up welding some of the thicker stuff, so having a versatile welder is a good bet. I bought a Clarke Mig 135 from Machine Mart a few years back, and have done plenty of welding on my Nova with it.

Check out this site: http://www.mig-welding.co.uk

[Andy]

Dont even consider gasless,theyre absolutely terrible.

[Alex J]

is this the one, and would it do, comes with gas, a mask and all the gubbins??

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/135te-turbo-mig-welder

[pie]

they reckon 160amp is perfect for welding cars etc :thumb:

[Andy]

Thats fine is that.I would buy a better mask though,dont expect much from it.I got an auto one off ebay for £70

[Andy]

they reckon 160amp is perfect for welding cars etc :thumb:
Total overkill, 90amp does it perfect

[paul james]

is this the one, and would it do, comes with gas, a mask and all the gubbins??

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/135te-turbo-mig-welder

The mask that comes with it will no doubt be utterly hopeless. I highly recommend you get a proper autodimming helmet, they aren't that expensive any more and make welding so much easier.

[Alex J]

Thats fine is that.I would buy a better mask though,dont expect much from it.I got an auto one off ebay for £70im going to buy it then, and a diffrent mask, i wonder if welding will effect an epileptic person lol

[Andy]

Oh aye ,i never thought of that,best ask your doctor mate.

[Alex J]

Oh aye ,i never thought of that,best ask your doctor mate.maybe do some break dancing as well as welding at the same time lol, of to machine mart i go, cheers for the advice:thumb:

[Andy]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XR915-PARWELD-WELDING-MASK-AUTO-DARKEN-GRINDING-MODE-/260967378411?pt=UK_BOI_ProtectiveGear_RL&hash=item3cc2de2deb
That will be fine

[steviegsi]

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[GRUNT 16V]

machine marts little welders suck the sweat off of a dead mans balls !!!!!!! there 5hite
go get your self a cebora 130 amp minimum i have been welding for well over 13 years and had noting but ****e with clarke welders so i went and bought a Esab 200 caddy ! what a weapon !

[John]

Machine Mart = ****e. Get at least a half decent one. Gasless welding is pointless.

[Peanut_119]

Let me know on how the welding goes for a epileptic, as I'm epileptic and I have put off getting one for that reason.

[mowgli]

alex, make sure you get a great big bottle of acetylene for it too..... lol

[Andy]

when my gti is built im going to weld some some stuff with my clarke 90 and do some nick break tests to destruction if i have time.
Because according to most people on here they are glorified soldering irons.
The amount of people that have probably gone out and spent £100s more on the advice of folk on here when theres no reason to if your only welding your nova's.

[pikey1986]

i use a clarke pro90 thing with 0.6mm wire, it survived a stay with baxter and is still going strong

[Curtoise]

to be honest i needed to weld a few brackets of about 5mm thickness and went and got some flux gassless wire from halfords, did the job very well! nice penetration and no bird crappy look.

i have to add though i have used flux wire before and it was absolute ****e!

[John]

machine marts little welders suck the sweat off of a dead mans balls !!!!!!! there 5hite
go get your self a cebora 130 amp minimum i have been welding for well over 13 years and had noting but ****e with clarke welders so i went and bought a Esab 200 caddy ! what a weapon !
This.
I have a miller welder, bought it on offer about 8 years ago, was about £325 iirc but like the old saying goes, you only get what you pay for. With your temper marris you will have axed a Clarke welder after 10 mins ;)

[Bubba]

i have a clarke 151TE...nothing wrong with it. welds car panels fine...picked mine up for £200 refurbed on that bay place. and you can get auto dimming masks for £30 which work find as long as they are fully solar.

[BRoadGhost]

I've used one of these and it's exceptional:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MIG-WELDER-200-AMP-NEW-BOXED-C-EURO-TORCH-in-stock-/160771610608?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item256ebc17f0#ht_2049wt_765

[autoworksnovasport]

gas is best as everyone has already said

i would get on ebay let somone else spend the bigmoney on buying it new!!
get a decent one you can use for other things aswell as car tin because you "will" want to weld bigger stuff

[Mieran]

I use an ARC welder, its pretty damn good but can be tricky/hard to weld thin metal

[windfreek]

gas all the way, I got a cheep gasless off the 'bay for £50 with a load of wire, tbh it started out awfully, but as i got used to it it can be quite good at the odd job, more useful outside on really windy days, but in the end if you want a good end result get a gas one, altho I do think if you master gasless then when you swap to work with gas, the results will be 10x better than before.

[Alex J]

i brought a brand new clarke 135te and a dimmer mask in the end, a massive thanks to Stevegsi for the vat free discount code, rep added. didnt want to buy second hand, as with a new one you get a warranty, thanks to everyone else for there views and comments:cool:

[Andy]

have you spoke to a dr or neurologist mate?

[Edd]

have you spoke to a dr or neurologist mate?

Seriously Alex I would ask the doc, my mrs, who has the same condition as you know, tried using my welder, she didnt 'breakdance' lol, but felt very dizzy, had to sit down for long while, I get it checked mate

[mowgli]

there are loads of different grades of welding glass, and especially the cheap reactive ones.. some really don't hold much light back if you are doing long welds.