View Full Version : HID's..
PinkyInk
20-01-12, 11:47 AM
Do HID's look good on a Nova? Are they going to work ok as i have been
told that nova's cant handle them?
Or is there any other headlights that look as good as HID's?
been loads off thread about these's lol
simply answer is no f lol
PinkyInk
20-01-12, 11:53 AM
haha
thye just scatter the beam every were bar the road f lol
PinkyInk
20-01-12, 12:02 PM
Thats true! There anything similar to there brightness tho?
i got off road use bulbs in my cav and there bright (cav lights are just as bad as nova ones f lol )
You'll struggle to reach >2000 lumens with a halogen.
Best mony-no-object bulbs would be PIAA Xtreme Force, but they're officially discontinued now - next best thing would be Xtreme White Plus. But thats only if you got about £60 burning a hole in your pocket.
Otherwise, try Osram Nightbreakers, Philips Bluevision or even Halfords Ultra.
HIDs, IMO, don't work in a Nova lens as said due to the beam pattern so best avoided.
But yes they look awesome. Proper clean light.
Not when they're burning the retinas of oncoming cars they won't lol
Not when they're burning the retinas of oncoming cars they won't lol
Here let me explain lol lol lol
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSJZffxlIJ7HkXaf3juB91bVKV-_fQgLPhgiiqv1jiv7y9DWzl- lol
I know that's why i took mine off.. But they do give a nice clean light.. ;)
I know that's why i took mine off.. But they do give a nice clean light.. ;)
So does the local lighthouse,dont mean its good for the road though lol
lol lights the road up tho.. hahaha
i personaly think they look good my mate has them in his saloon nova and they light the road up fine hes a member on here if you wanna ask him for a picture for you his png name is sneakycorsa
Just use them HID bulbs, brought some off ebay for something daft like £10 delivered, massive improvement over standard bulbs
Curtoise
03-02-12, 01:48 PM
i currently run hid's i think they can be done if you set them up correctly ie have them pointing to the left and far down. i dont get flashed EVER anymore now there set up correctly. up to you really i think there good and as i do alot of night driving they really do light up the deers eyes and are great for b roads....
heres a pic
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii448/curtreid8/IMAG1177.jpg
That pic doesnt really give any info though, you need a pic pointing at flat surface such as a wall from a few metres back to show the beam pattern. Preferably also with halogens too for comparison.
Curtoise
03-02-12, 04:51 PM
if someone can get a halogen bulb test on a wall i can get a hid one
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 04:58 PM
The topic of HID's is totally debatable, best thing to do is buy a set (not exactly expensive now-a-days) fit them and set them up see what results you get. I have a feeling I will have no problems using them. I will get some pics up when everything has been sorted (don't hold your breath).
Curtoise
03-02-12, 07:46 PM
heres mine on my wall:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii448/curtreid8/IMAG0213.jpg
the right one needs to be a tiny bit lower
see no pattem
their meant to go to the left n flick up
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/0c/fe/76c86c1338dff22eb68d9080b8f2f76d.jpg
Curtoise
03-02-12, 08:18 PM
Oh god mine are bad lol here's them on the road
Dip:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii448/curtreid8/IMAG0219.jpg
Main:
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii448/curtreid8/IMAG0220.jpg
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 08:20 PM
Are your headlamp units original GM ones or have they been replaced with non-GM like Lucas etc?
Curtoise
03-02-12, 08:23 PM
Mine? I think there gm, will check in a min tho.
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 08:27 PM
Reason I ask is that I've replaced Nova headlamps before with brand new Lucas ones (in this case) and compared them (one side Lucas one side standard) and have found the standard ones have a better light beam pattern, more defined less scatter even with standard halogen H4's fitted. Found the same with Cavalier headlamps too. OE GM ones are better defined.
Maybe go down to a garage and get the headlamps put on the beam test and get them adjusted as much as poss see if it makes any difference.
^^ agree on the cav lights
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 08:32 PM
^ Shame finding them new (lens or unit) is a funking mission!
i know fella plenty in scrappys by me but all facelight type grrrr
Nova_Tek
03-02-12, 08:35 PM
Actually after a facelift type lol (bro's Cav) All the ones I've found are cheap pattern ones.
waggygsi
03-02-12, 10:50 PM
hid are ilegal anyhow an the pig up heer love tae do people for HIDS
hid are ilegal anyhow an the pig up heer love tae do people for HIDS
No there not..
^^^ they fail mot straight away
only aloud if they come from factory
Not an MOT fail - mine pass fine.
or its on the new rules for mot or somthing lol
The rules say if there's headlamp levellers or washers present, they have to work. If they're not present, its not a fail.
In terms of the MOT, so long as the systems that are present work and the beam pattern is Ok, HIDs will pass.
^^^ they fail mot straight away
only aloud if they come from factory
Mine didnt fail either lol although there only the bulbs and not a proper kit,
I take mine out for the mot just in case they do fail but they would probably pass anyway, my boss would probably fail everything he could, think hes worried that letting things go would look very bad especially when my car parks outside every day haha, but as jack says, The rules say if there's headlamp levellers or washers present, they have to work. If they're not present, its not a fail.
waggygsi
04-02-12, 04:19 PM
well heer in ayr if ure seen to have them in your car you get a ticket regardless unless its got tht headlight leveling washers an that or from factory
staggy_gsi
12-02-12, 07:09 PM
I've been led to believe if HID's are fitted to a car (aftermarket), unless there is headlamp washers fitted as well, they will fail. Thats the way my message from VOSA read anyhow lol
Southie
12-02-12, 07:13 PM
Your better off buying 1000000 candle watt torches and fitting them to the roof of your car than wiring up HIDs to a Nova.
Nova_Tek
12-02-12, 07:23 PM
My bro's Cav passed MOT the other day with HID kit fitted. Tester said nothing only how nice and white/bright they were.
Surprised at that, as the HIDs I had on mine were shocking. Yet in the Celica they work perfectly lol
I've been led to believe if HID's are fitted to a car (aftermarket), unless there is headlamp washers fitted as well, they will fail. Thats the way my message from VOSA read anyhow lol
Nope. Those requirements come from EU regulations which came into force sometime in the early-mid 2000's. The MOT merely states if auto levellers and headlight washers are present, they must work (not that they must be present). HIDs are just mentioned as an aid to finding auto levellers and washers.
JonnyNova360
22-02-12, 11:01 AM
Read all of this thread now, Ive run HID's on the last 5 or so cars ive had. Normally i have found that the beam pattern is not really affected. All you are really doing is changing a bulb for a brighter one. Its in the same place so why should it be affected? If the beam pattern is drastically affected though; it is possible to set it up correctly at an MOT station.
When i bought my 2nd (current) Nova, the beam pattern was terrible. However, an hour or so later with my friendly MOT inspector, this is how we got the beams of light:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/417633_375777422450338_100000542512297_1365874_500 289637_n.jpg
(Phone Qualitly Pic sorry)
Anyway, he says this would pass MOT perfectly now. I never get flashed or called abusive names for having brilliant lights =]
Nova_Tek
22-02-12, 01:18 PM
^ That looks pretty good to the other Nova examples I've seen. They do need fettling to get right.
Its in the same place so why should it be affected?
Its not though; the light source for a HID is often in a different place to the light source for a halogen, which can muck up the light distribution in the lamp/lens and resultant beam pattern. Also, I've found with H4s, the shields don't reflect the light very well and it spills into the main beam part of the lens.
I have made improvements on my cav by using the pre-facelift lamp housing which had a builtin bulb shield that stops some of the light going straight outwards though.
[edit] At home now so can see the pic you posted lol Looks MUCH better from other pics I've seen (most of which are just blobs of light lol) but there's still a lot of light splash and artifacts. What did you do to get the pattern that way?
Jack,your a hid champion mate lol
Curtoise
22-02-12, 05:34 PM
yes i would also like to know how you got them like that as i would be doing that asap
Im running HID's in my Corsa B, with the beam benders on the glass
How it looks, nice and straight?
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/x_novadose_x/2012-02-01114242.jpg
And on the open road, phone quality is poor
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h80/x_novadose_x/2012-02-01232524.jpg
Not an ideal beam pattern pic but still lol
What kit did you use Dave, and what colour temp is that?
I gpot told it was 6000k but i dont think it is, think its the 4500k kit, ill find out later on when i go out its only a cheap kit
The 6000s in my mk4 look a bit blue-er than yours Dave, so id agree with them not being 6000k.
The hids in my nova were terrible, no beam pattern at all, and failed mot. They look crap in old cars anyway IMO, as they just dont "suit" it lol
THey are legal and illegal, depends who you ask and how they interpret things.
"DfT ruling has made conversion kits for halogen headlights illegal without OEM levelling and washers. If the car comes into the country without and passes an SVA then it's fine."
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