joff-turbo-nova
15-01-12, 09:40 PM
Hi all
Just need to vent my spleen at GM so here we go...
I tried to up grade the rear window mechanisms of my 2010 Meriva to electric.
Thinking I was being clever I realised that I would need replacement door looms as well as the window mechanisms and have been busy rounding up the parts over the last few months.
Had a crack at the offside rear door today, got the door card off, drilled out the 6 rivets that held the manual mechanism in and removed, got the old loom out of the door, installed the new loom and trail fitted (fortunately)the new mechanism .
I needed the window slider to be slightly lower so I could get the glass guide in so I reconnected the battery and turned on the ignition . Nothing.
I then tried the rear switch. Nothing.
I then had a root around in the Haynes manual and it seems the rear windows are on a separate fuse (no 22) , popped the fuse cover - no fuse installed - easy fix - new 20A fuse in . Press all the buttons, still nothing . Grrrr
Next job on the fault finding, see if any power is getting to the motor - out with the volt meter. Zero vollts on the 12v+ . Nothing on the ground wire either, infact nothing on any of the window wires .... strange.
Popped off the door connector thinking this may be dodgy and had a look to see if i could find the ground and 12v+ on the body loom.
Not a chance in hell it turns out. Of the 11 wires needed for the door (2 for the speaker, 3 for the central locking and 6 for the electric windows) only 5 were present, speaker and central locking.
So there is not a chance in hell that the electric windows can work , more grrrr.
It seems I need to replace the whole of the sill looms from the connectors in the kickwells back from a vehicle with this wiring as an option. Sounds like rocking horse doo doo x hens teeth.
So had to put all manual mechanism back in and put it all back together to still have manual windows - a waste of an afternoon !
Why couldm't GM just make the basic loom with the options available so you can plug stuff in and it works first time
I feel better now.
Joff
Just need to vent my spleen at GM so here we go...
I tried to up grade the rear window mechanisms of my 2010 Meriva to electric.
Thinking I was being clever I realised that I would need replacement door looms as well as the window mechanisms and have been busy rounding up the parts over the last few months.
Had a crack at the offside rear door today, got the door card off, drilled out the 6 rivets that held the manual mechanism in and removed, got the old loom out of the door, installed the new loom and trail fitted (fortunately)the new mechanism .
I needed the window slider to be slightly lower so I could get the glass guide in so I reconnected the battery and turned on the ignition . Nothing.
I then tried the rear switch. Nothing.
I then had a root around in the Haynes manual and it seems the rear windows are on a separate fuse (no 22) , popped the fuse cover - no fuse installed - easy fix - new 20A fuse in . Press all the buttons, still nothing . Grrrr
Next job on the fault finding, see if any power is getting to the motor - out with the volt meter. Zero vollts on the 12v+ . Nothing on the ground wire either, infact nothing on any of the window wires .... strange.
Popped off the door connector thinking this may be dodgy and had a look to see if i could find the ground and 12v+ on the body loom.
Not a chance in hell it turns out. Of the 11 wires needed for the door (2 for the speaker, 3 for the central locking and 6 for the electric windows) only 5 were present, speaker and central locking.
So there is not a chance in hell that the electric windows can work , more grrrr.
It seems I need to replace the whole of the sill looms from the connectors in the kickwells back from a vehicle with this wiring as an option. Sounds like rocking horse doo doo x hens teeth.
So had to put all manual mechanism back in and put it all back together to still have manual windows - a waste of an afternoon !
Why couldm't GM just make the basic loom with the options available so you can plug stuff in and it works first time
I feel better now.
Joff