View Full Version : does anyone know anything about HID's i have a problem
Curtoise
16-11-11, 10:35 PM
hi all, i installed an HID kit in the nova and am having some problems, first of all everything was fine, then about 3 weeks back my passenger light kept going out, it always comes back on if i turn them on and off. this has got worse now and i am noticing it happens when i go over a bump or change my lights from dip to full beam..... i have checked all the earths and they are fine, i even routed them to the battery earth lead to the bulkhead. and soldered all the connections to make sure it wasn't a earth.
no i have heard some people say it could be the ballast, but i have had a read up and people have changed the ballast and this still happens! also the bulb flickers for about 3secs when i first turn them on.
i am also noticing the passenger light is getting slightly blue'er that the white drivers headlight
anyone have any ideas? cheers :thumb:
Sounds like you have one from a bad batch, this happens regularly, but there is a very small plug on the loom with a really tiny red and a tiny black wire in it, these sometimes come apart and suffer from intermittent vibration problems, check these are pushed fully home and your issues should hopefully cease!
In every case I've seen, flickering is caused by a bad earth.
Also check none of the connectors have gotten wet and corroded as that can happen on the cheapo chinese sets. And that everything is secure and no loose flapping cables or ballasts.
As for colour change, that does seem to happen on cheaper bulbs. What colour temp are your burners; I noticed the cheapo 6000K ones I had went way more blue than the quality 6000K ones on the Celica. The cav ones look positively green in comparison lol
Curtoise
17-11-11, 10:50 AM
Cheers for the replys, it is a 8k set. Spudly its funny you say that as where the earth and red wire goes into the clip the clip is slightly broken where it locks over the male plugs lug if you know what I mean. But it never comes open. So you don't think its the ballast or bulb ?
Shouldnt be, try swapping the ballast from one side to the other and see if the problem switches sides or stays the same, if it switches then its your ballast for definate, and if not its a dodgy wiring connector, my money will be on the connection you already suspect tbf!
Curtoise
19-11-11, 08:35 PM
right i have swapped the bulbs over, and now the right one is doing it, so its gotta be the bulb..... i fitted a new headlight as mine was black and broken and it worked fine untill i changed my manifold and now its back to jibbing out....... new bulb then.
The problem lies not with the wiring, nor the ballast. It's the fact you have them in a Nova. HID's are not for cars with patterned headlights. colonvvankererbehindisblindingme
The problem lies not with the wiring, nor the ballast. It's the fact you have them in a Nova. HID's are not for cars with patterned headlights. colonvvankererbehindisblindingme
I'd like to do things to people with blinding hid's.
Things involving chisels and hammers
i like putting my fog lights on to annoy them, or letting them pass me & then putting my main beam on & following them...i have been thinking about fitting a mk2 escort style b4stard light to the back bumper....
I put on full beam when they blind me,fukk em.And fogs on when behind me,honestly,its stupid they get away with it.
Thats clever of you :roll:
HIDs CAN be fine in cars with complex lenses. Anyone who says otherwise, feel free to come and look at my Celica any time you like.
The problem arises when people fit them into lenses where they don't work, and instead of taking them out, just leave them as they look wikkidy bo.
I find misaligned headlights or malfunctioning autolevellers to be more of a problem than HIDs anyway.
i truly hate being dazzled by some kid following me a small hatchback with massively hard springing, with badly adjusted lights, its like being targetted by a strobe light, i have no problem with properly set lights
Thats clever of you.
Ok,see how unnerving it is with your family in the car and some gonad coming the other way thinking hes carlos vandango with wembley stadium floodlit headlights.
So you're happy for him to potentially swerve off the road and plough into you?
Mowgli I find that only happens in modern cars with auto levellers. They're great on nice flat autobahns but the usual quality of tarmac in the UK tends to fcuk them over lol
So you're happy for him to potentially swerve off the road and plough into you?
Mowgli I find that only happens in modern cars with auto levellers. They're great on nice flat autobahns but the usual quality of tarmac in the UK tends to fcuk them over lol
Standard full beams would never cause that,hid's would,i did it to one guy and he put main beam on and my eyes felt like id used an acid eyewash!
Im all for seeing better in the dark and believe it or not would fit hids to my cars but only if set up properly,as i say when its like wembley floodlights then why shouldnt they get the book thrown at them?? its bloody dangerous
jack, i got followed by a saxo the other night & it was horrendous.. i would have happily followed him home & put his lights out...
i had that problem with my set i bought (quite cheapish), at one point they both went out. :eek:
for my own safety i took them off
Curtoise
20-11-11, 11:16 AM
i had that problem with my set i bought (quite cheapish), at one point they both went out. :eek:
for my own safety i took them off
omg thats not good, my situation is one of my lights was cocked it the lense had collapsed inside and went black. i used to get flashed all the time because it was pointing everywhere, but yesterday i put my new light in and got the lights level and down and havnt been flashed since. they CAN work in non projector lense's if they are set correctly my friends corsa gsi has 8k HID's and they are completely fine when following me, poorly adjusted normal lights are just as bad.
i got HIDS in both my cav n corsa both with morrettes and i got a patten both with headlight motors fitted to never had a problem with them tbh
Peanut_119
20-11-11, 11:42 AM
i had morettes in my cav with hids, and the beam was fine, if not better than the halogen bulb, but ive now changed to a set of lights with the projector built in
I have HID's in my astra and yes theyre bright so you will always get one dumbass thinking you have your high beams on, a quick flick of the high beams on and off soon lets them know i havent (standard high beam bulbs are still in place) but as with both my cavs, i have had my beam patterns checked at work and ive spent time making sure theyre lined up correctly so i know for a fact mine are as they should be, in all fairness theyre a little lower than they should and the drivers one is set slightly more to the nearside than normal aswell to make sure im not blinding anyone!
Yes you do get nobs who wont bother doing any of this and thats what everyone jumps up and down about and assumes anyone with HID's has a poorly fitted kit, ive seen people flashing cars that have had them from the factory so i know its just the assumption of 'theyre HID's and you shouldnt have them'!
i was debating getting them for the e30 but i dont know if i can do it properly or not. plus the police get getting ****ty down here and pulling people with them and not having the setup properly.
Bubba, does yours have the EU smiley lights? I'm sure I've got a pic of the Nova with them using HIDs, I'll see if I can find it. I wasn't keen as they needed a LOT of adjusting and the near side kicked up too high on both lamps.
Anyways, depending on whether or not you believe EU regs should be back dated to older cars, or just apply from date of enforcement*, then HIDs will need headlight washers. You may need a levelling device dependent on the beam pattern too.
I'm not keen on H4 kits as the rotating shield does appear to spray the pattern around more than a single-filament replacement kit. I ran them in the Cav for a while and will be taking them out in favour of Nightbreakers as the pattern has too much spray. I have yet to see anyone post a picture of a H4 kit beam pattern in a Nova despite asking for about 5 years now lol And by beam pattern I mean a picture like this:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/CCUK/2008_03030066.jpg
...thats the Celica pattern btw; 9005/9006 bulbs. And this is the on-road pattern:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/CCUK/HIDs/IMAG0341.jpg
Note no glare into oncoming traffic. This is using OEM complex lenses too.
* I'm inclined to believe they come into force from date of enforcement, as they do for every other regulation (see engine emissions as an example)
Curtoise
20-11-11, 08:51 PM
Just got a pic for you jack uploading now
Curtoise
20-11-11, 08:55 PM
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii448/curtreid8/IMAG1182.jpg
And on the road
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii448/curtreid8/IMAG1184.jpg
Thought as much, they don't work in Nova lamps lol
There's way too much glow above the line of light. Its almost like you've got another light shining on there!
I'd take them out and try Nightbreakers instead.
Curtoise
22-11-11, 05:31 PM
yeah theres ALOT of light shining around the beam lol.
im sure i saw a black car for sale ages ago titled "probably the best nova in the world" which had projecter lenses?! oit was on polished porche design 90's
This one curt
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?101021-Aamir-s-Opel-Corsa-A-16v
That would look a whole lot better if the indicators were crystal style to match.
Projectors don't automatically mean they'll work with HIDs; its the same with complex lenses - some do, some don't. Although it does seem most projectors can handle them Ok.
TBH your best bet would be to fit a quad light panel and look for some 5.75" (or whatever the size is, I forget now lol) proper projector headlamps to mount in it. Which isn't too easy as most of them are designed for the USDM so wrong-hand drive :(
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