Stubby mirrors..

[scott.parker]

So stubby mirrors, who was it who first made them?
Who els has made them, and does anyone know how many sets there are about, and whats the going rate to buy a set of them?

Scott

[Graeme]

I have two incomplete sets, one was Ste L's and one was Craig Greens paid about sixty quid for each set. Need to sort them out really, definately wouldn't put them on anything other than a show car only, they look very delicate and breakable

[scott.parker]

Are you willing to share any pics of them Graeme?

[Graeme]

Neither set is in my possesion at the minute as both need work, one is with a friand and the other is at Brett's bodyshop for finishing, when I get them back I'll put some pictures up

[Jeff16v]

Nick J's thread has pics of the stubby's Scott as he got them recently from Dave France.

[John]

Yeah dave France (fearless) did them originally.

[dan23]

i have two in my wardrobe all finished an sprayed just need glass you can even take the mirror backs off

[fearless]

Love it when these threads appear - it gives me a chance to post this little beaut - still work in progress :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/fearlessmotorsport/SP_A0057.jpg

[Jeff16v]

^yum, what a tease!

[pie]

tommy nova also has a set iirc

[TANKNOVA]

some here http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?120113-NOVA-V6-built-on-my-drive/page9

[christurboo]

is there not a ''how to make'' thread lol wouldnt mind making a set

[Southie]

Here's an old HOW TO thread CLICKME (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?123184-how-to-make-STUBBY-MIRRORS)

[scott.parker]

lol looking back over them, there all very bad bogged ones..

[Edd]

Craig's were pretty good, adjustable mirror bits still worked

Personally ive never liked them, carbon ones look nice tho

[Tim]

My god some super bodges there.I made a pair and didnt do them anything like those. I have pics.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/t1mmmmy/novapics044.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/t1mmmmy/novapics043.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j307/t1mmmmy/novapics045.jpg


the backs can be removed and they are still fully adjustable.

[faker]

I like the look of stubbies. might try a set for my motor.

[Mike]

I made some carbon mirror covers ages ago lol yet to finish them still lol

[Jedro]

i dont know my nova fashion but they look pretty cool, carbon ones are hella - :cool:

[krobinson]

I've a set made by Dave on mine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/keithrobinson/62400a7d.jpg

[scott.parker]

So how much does Dave sell them for?

Scott

[fearless]

He doesn't any more :(

[John]

He doesn't any more :(
I think you ought to! probably sell quite a few sets!

[Graeme]

Come on Dave do another limited run, I'm willing to pay good money

[fearless]

Too much time involved in making them i'm affraid - I need to finish my project before I take on others :)

[Cle]

So this comment was going to say they are totally horrible but then seen fearless's post my god they look good in carbon fibre !!!! lol

[John]

Too much time involved in making them i'm affraid - I need to finish my project before I take on others :)


And how long have you been doing that now? lol lol surely there's some hours spare for some mirrors lol lol

[mowgli]

Can i just point out that the std nova mirrors aren't the best, in terms of rear view, so stubbies will be about as good as lewis hamiltons racing ones.....

[Pistol Pete]

Who cares when they look cool lol

[mowgli]

Me

[Pistol Pete]

Ah well, each to thier own!

[Benn]

I wanna know what you do about glass... As surly std glass is to long no?

[mowgli]

Cut it down to fit with a glass cutter

[Benn]

Oh, smashy smashy...

[Nick J]

Cut it down to fit with a glass cutter

If only it was that easy....... Creating the rounded corners so the glass looks stock is a lot harder than you may think! On the whole they are a nightmare to make well hence the reason Dave wont do anymore. The hours I put into the last set was ridiculous. However they did look fantastic on both of my previous novas and Ive never seen a set quite as short yet.


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/nj_photo/novawip260.jpg?t=1243609743
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Billing%202009/Billing0969.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g191/vaughanmc/Billing%202009/Billing09100.jpghttp://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/nj_photo/0036.jpg?t=1247592404http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/nj_photo/novaturbowip038.jpg?t=1253296066
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k27/nj_photo/030-vi.jpg?t=1311431701




Nick.

[Austin_Nova16]

As said, not a 5 minute affair..

some pics of mine:

1st go over with the plastic welder and filed down
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Austin/Nova%20Coupe/2008-03-24014.jpg

after a prime
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Austin/Nova%20Coupe/2008-03-24024.jpg

[scott.parker]

This is interesting seeing the different ways some of you are doing these, how did you get round doing your glass after doing the body's that way Austin?

[mowgli]

i probably didn't do a very good job of explaining it.. buy some flat car grade mirror glass, and make up a template, then take it to the local glass cutter....

[Alex J]

basildon glass will cut them if you send than a template.

[Austin_Nova16]

The glass was cut on the edge nearest to the door. So it kept the same height on the outermost side.. Need to get some more cut actually as one is slightly chipped.

[scott.parker]

Ah, cool that how i thought was best to do it, didn't think cutting the curved end was a good idea made no sense to make more work then need be etc..

Cheers.

[dan23]

for the glass
make a template from card then buy one of those mirror repair kits cut out the template an stick it on

[craig green]

Or just take the mirror to a glazer & get it trimmed down. Cost me a tenner.

few pics of a set I was 1/2 way through.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Shorty%20Mirrors/mirrors003.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Shorty%20Mirrors/mirrors007.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Shorty%20Mirrors/pngmeetjuly007.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Shorty%20Mirrors/pngmeetjuly015.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/turbocraig/Shorty%20Mirrors/mirrors004.jpg

I don't like mine too short, just subtly different. Mine are still remote adjustable etc.

[scott.parker]

Interesting, everyone's doing them differently so far, but no one's shown how Dave did his on the origanls..

Well i wanted to have a go, but wanted to retain as much strength and use as little fiberglass/fillers as possible, and also wanted to make some that retain all the internal adjustment mechanism etc, and i too don't like "too short" look, as they end up being taller then they they do wide and IMO look wrong, so i wanted to make them almost square or equal looking.

So here's what Ive achieved so far..

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/956/stub4.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1007/stub3f.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9403/photo0883i.jpg

Ive got a lot of work left to finish the frame and backs off perfectly, and Ive spent around 10hrs total physical working on them to get them to this stage, at the moment the backs are removable still, and they are really solid already, but i am tempted to glue the backs on to give them even more rigidity once there finished.

I'll post more pics once Ive done more work on them.

Scott

[Graeme]

Good work Scott, I've just dropped a set of mine off at the body shop to have painted, looks like they'll be making a bit of a come back in 2012 especially when people see how good the fearless originals look on Keiths car

[NoVaBoOt26]

they look awesome.. im gona have a go at mine for my project looking great scott

[Leeboo]

Goodness. I think these look shocking.

I can however see the appeal of the ones with the carbon covers!

[Benn]

How much can you see from them?

I'm used to my van mirrors (spend 8hours a day driving) now my Astra mirrors seem too small... :(

[scott.parker]

Benn, but do you have a rear view on the van? as most driving in vans etc is done using wing mirrors so you need them more, but in my Astra i use the rear view more then the wings etc, and look over my shoulder for safety etc, as for the glass, I'm not sure yet mate, not cut it or fitted them onto a car, but Ive removed around 2 inches from the body, so the field of view will be inside the quarter light diving bar, instead of it being in the way of the mirror view.

[Benn]

Benn, but do you have a rear view on the van? as most driving in vans etc is done using wing mirrors so you need them more, but in my Astra i use the rear view more then the wings etc, and look over my shoulder for safety etc, as for the glass, I'm not sure yet mate, not cut it or fitted them onto a car, but Ive removed around 2 inches from the body, so the field of view will be inside the quarter light diving bar, instead of it being in the way of the mirror view.

No, no rear windows. My rear view mirror vibrates alot is the prob... I always look over my shoulder, but am just used to looking in my wing mirrors...

[scott.parker]

Vibrates allot on your nova? Check my vids mines virtual still.. i placed some double sided foam under the mount stop vibrations full stop. I might look into getting a BIG rear view mirror for the Nova as you have no room to move once your strapped into the seat.

[Benn]

Ah sorry, i have ascreen mounted one as i have the Omega sunroof motor and surround...

[Hobbit]

How much can you see from them?

I'm used to my van mirrors (spend 8hours a day driving) now my Astra mirrors seem too small... :(

Try jumping out of a truck into a car...

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/2011-11-15084626.jpg

lol

[Alex J]

hobbit, are you in a layby again lol

[Hobbit]

On a trading estate in a queue for a cash and carry. got a full load of chocolate on and its making me hungry lol

[Alex J]

are you near me, i could help of load it lol

[Hobbit]

No I'm up in Grimsby

[blue_peg_16v]

Should of called in for a cuppa mate only next junction on m18 after m180 about 2 miles lol

[scott.parker]

Interesting, everyone's doing them differently so far, but no one's shown how Dave did his on the origanls..

Well i wanted to have a go, but wanted to retain as much strength and use as little fiberglass/fillers as possible, and also wanted to make some that retain all the internal adjustment mechanism etc, and i too don't like "too short" look, as they end up being taller then they they do wide and IMO look wrong, so i wanted to make them almost square or equal looking.

So here's what Ive achieved so far..

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/956/stub4.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1007/stub3f.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9403/photo0883i.jpg

Ive got a lot of work left to finish the frame and backs off perfectly, and Ive spent around 10hrs total physical working on them to get them to this stage, at the moment the backs are removable still, and they are really solid already, but i am tempted to glue the backs on to give them even more rigidity once there finished.

I'll post more pics once Ive done more work on them.

Scott

New pic, still no filler used on these yet, filed them down a bit to get the basic shape before filling them.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5389/stub5.jpg

Hope to have these some ware near finished in a week or so.

Scott

[moffat]

top work scott

[scott.parker]

More progress on these...

so Ive still put NO filler on these yet, Ive filled any gaps with plastic i had from cutting them about etc, there looking pretty good, but taking longer doing them this way, but should be more solid and less chance of any filler cracks once painted etc.

So some pics of them.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/8885/dscf3875u.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1736/dscf3877o.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3540/dscf3878l.jpg

And just so you can all see there the same size etc...

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6051/dscf3881b.jpg

And next to the ones on track car.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1103/dscf3871b.jpg

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8837/dscf3874r.jpg

now had about 16hrs spent on them.

Scott

[Alex J]

buy a car with them on lol, saves time

[scott.parker]

Or... Make some for my self, figure out how to do it, then I'll make more to sell...

Did you sell your SR then?

[novarally]

Or... Make some for my self, figure out how to do it, then I'll make more to sell...

Scott,

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that the only way you will ever make money is to take a mould from your finished mirrors, and new sets can then be laid up (or injection moulded?) each time.

There's never going to be a wage in the job for the time it will take to custom make them, even once you've perfected the technique.

If they're moulded they can then be laid up in carbon fibre, I reckon there'll be more demand if they can be made in a high-end finish like that.

Colin

[pikey1986]

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[pie]

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The ignorant **** has re-posted and ignored you mate!

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[Andy]

diazee blues ftw lol

[pie]

well have a group but now lol

[scott.parker]

So... i thought it was time i pulled my finger out an did some more to these!

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3584/dscf4004n.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1050/dscf4005v.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9735/dscf4006k.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1865/dscf4007u.jpg

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8894/dscf4008r.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7867/dscf4009fg.jpg

Filled them all up, and then sanded them down!

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6601/dscf4010.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6043/dscf4011jz.jpg

Quick wipe off..

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3667/dscf4013fl.jpg

Then slap some primer over them to pick out the imperfections...

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9065/dscf4014e.jpg

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3450/dscf4015m.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6430/dscf4016r.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5627/dscf4017e.jpg

Not too bad really, just need quick fine fill and rub down then a coat of filler primer etc.
Need to get the mirror glass cut down now.

Scott

[scott.parker]

So, a bit more filler and rubbing off, then another prime, almost there, the frames are done, the covers just need one more rub off filler prime then there good to go, and the frames will get treated to a bumper texture paint i got.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6435/dscf4020g.jpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3254/dscf4021k.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9738/dscf4022f.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/5819/dscf4023f.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/378/dscf4024l.jpg

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1547/dscf4025f.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1444/dscf4026q.jpg

how they look on the inside still!

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6494/dscf4027b.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2457/dscf4028i.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8349/dscf4029.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1127/dscf4030gy.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/88/dscf4031rn.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/678/dscf4032j.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7807/dscf4033.jpg

As these are not so "stubby" i think i will call them Scott's shorties style mirrors! lol

[Graeme]

What they going on Scott, thought you were selling up? I'll give you twenty quid for them lol

[scott.parker]

There going on the Loon Graeme, and i am selling both Nova's as i dont use the track car, and the mk1 has to go to keep the loon, Ive got 4 cars!

[Graeme]

Oh right didn't realise you had so many

[scott.parker]

Oh right didn't realise you had so many
Yep, track mk2, jam yell mk1, loon mk1, Astra mk4! lol 3 insured, two taxed..

[gary_126]

I dont like the "originals" far too short and just look silly. Mine are similar size to yours scott, and still adjust from the lever. (i made them in 2006)