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John
16-10-11, 08:36 PM
Have been having a good nose on the net but can't seem to quite find the right or definative answer.

I live in a semi, and want to build a wall at the back of my house, where my property borders on next door. (basically because the old biddy next door is an interfering busy body and has nothing better to do than spread our business and malicious gossip about us around the old folks mornings. She spends ages at the windows nosying at us in the garden. Not so much bothered for me but the wife and especially my daughter)

How high can i build the wall? will i need planning permission? I'm also planning decking the rear of the house next year so can i go from decking height or does it have to be from floor height? Any useful links etc? ta peeps. :):thumb:

sport
16-10-11, 08:45 PM
John Wall height would be 2m at its tallest from ground level and would need planing permisson. The decking might also need planning permisson if it over looks other gardens.
Best bet would be to pop into local council office and speak to there planning department.

John
16-10-11, 08:54 PM
Ta mate, i thought i might need permission. The decking wouldn't overlook once the wall is up lol!

Novasport
16-10-11, 08:57 PM
Lelandi trees ;) They grow fast, they will be blocking her view in no time :d

Andy
16-10-11, 08:59 PM
6 foot fence.Dont think you need planning for them do you??

Bubba
16-10-11, 09:03 PM
just stand in your garden starkers...lol

Edd
16-10-11, 09:05 PM
6 foot fence.Dont think you need planning for them do you??

Not you dont, just looked into this myself

John
16-10-11, 09:06 PM
We grew a hedge but she trimmed it whilst we were at work and it subsequently died, so we put some reeding up which she's moaned and moaned about. fence is a good call, was just hoping i could do something permanent she couldn't mess with whilst we're at work.

Edd
16-10-11, 09:07 PM
If you put a fence up and she tampers with it technically thats trespassing

John
16-10-11, 09:11 PM
If you put a fence up and she tampers with it technically thats trespassing She wouldn't give a fook tbh Edd, hence me thinking a wall is the way forward lol

Andy
16-10-11, 09:13 PM
Its not trespassing its criminal damage.Just look at the house info and see where the boundary is so she wont have a leg to stand on.
A house round here put a fence up-spent 2grand for the neighbour to then run his chainsaw right along it lol
I dont know why but it was very amusing lol

John
16-10-11, 09:15 PM
Its not trespassing its criminal damage.Just look at the house info and see where the boundary is so she wont have a leg to stand on.
A house round here put a fence up-spent 2grand for the neighbour to then run his chainsaw right along it lol
I dont know why but it was very amusing lol

This. She (or her son) wouldn't chainsaw a brick wall! Well they could but they'd be there for a while. lol

brainsnova
16-10-11, 09:16 PM
Hide under her window and pop up when she's noising lol

Edd
16-10-11, 09:17 PM
Ah right lol like that is she lol

As already mentioned think you might have to go to council office and ask, ask I think stuff like this varries from county to county

I asked if I can extend my garage and was told just do it, a friend in Devon with near same house lay out has to summit paper work

brainsnova
16-10-11, 09:17 PM
This. She (or her son) wouldn't chainsaw a brick wall! Well they could but they'd be there for a while. lol

There is a water fed chainsaw for cutting brick and it cuts fast

Andy
16-10-11, 09:18 PM
otherwise known as a stihl saw

John
16-10-11, 09:18 PM
Hide under her window and pop up when she's noising lol

This wouldn't bother her in the slightest, she's a hard faced oldie, so would then spend hours boring my face off with "oooh i really used to get on with the old lady who lived in your house, she had a lovely rose garden where you built your garage." ect.

John
16-10-11, 09:20 PM
There is a water fed chainsaw for cutting brick and it cuts fast

See This is why i want to do it properly. if i need planning permission then i'll do it that way.

Novasport
16-10-11, 09:40 PM
was just hoping i could do something permanent she couldn't mess with whilst we're at work.

Electric fence & barbed wire?

sport
16-10-11, 10:03 PM
She sounds like a nice old lady, with a wall you would need to watch out untill the mortar sets they could push the wall over.

Novasport
16-10-11, 10:05 PM
Reinforce it with metal bars and build it a few feet at a time

Novasport
16-10-11, 10:10 PM
Or...

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/prison_wall_reverse.jpg

John
16-10-11, 10:22 PM
Or...

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/prison_wall_reverse.jpg

Now you're giving me ideas! lol

Stuart
16-10-11, 10:23 PM
Keep shouting BOO at her till she has a heart attack lol

Is it 'your' fence on that side of the property? I'd go for the simple wood fence with Concrete posts and add in a CCTV camera with appropriate signage and leave her to lead her sad spiteful life.

OR I'll take £50 to sit start bollock naked in your garden for a couple of days and swear lots lol

mowgli
17-10-11, 05:51 AM
traditionally, in uk houses, as you look out the back, the fence to your left is your responsibility. put up a set of concrete posts & panels, and if she tries anything, you can take it up with the police as a vandalism thing.

Hobbit
17-10-11, 09:18 AM
OR I'll take £50 to sit start bollock naked in your garden for a couple of days and swear lots lol

I'm in, I'll bring the beers lol

Stuart
17-10-11, 09:22 AM
traditionally, in uk houses, as you look out the back, the fence to your left is your responsibility. put up a set of concrete posts & panels, and if she tries anything, you can take it up with the police as a vandalism thing.

Where I am breaks tradition then lol
To the right we 'own' the wall and to the left the neighbours 'own' the fence :)

Jeff16v
17-10-11, 09:39 AM
Get one of the fake dog barking things and stick it at the end of the garden. When you get a visit it'll be like "dog, we don't have a dog. Poor old things funny in the head!

Royston
17-10-11, 12:25 PM
Planning Dept will guide you John.

If you build a fence or wall, will she not just then nosey from upstairs? assuming you don't live in a bungalow;)

mowgli
17-10-11, 01:05 PM
Where I am breaks tradition then lol
To the right we 'own' the wall and to the left the neighbours 'own' the fence :)
trust you to be the 1percent who is different.

Stuart
17-10-11, 01:22 PM
and all the people in the street bar the far end who has to deal with all 3 fences lol

Novasport
17-10-11, 02:25 PM
Where I am breaks tradition then lol
To the right we 'own' the wall and to the left the neighbours 'own' the fence :)


trust you to be the 1percent who is different.

Our property is the same as Stuart's

Southie
17-10-11, 03:08 PM
Put some perspex up with mirrored tint on her side, her garden will be twice as big then. lol

mowgli
17-10-11, 03:25 PM
Or just be neighbourly, and talk to the woman, and tell her you are putting up a 6' fence for privacy, as you can't be too careful looking after young children these days...

Pete
17-10-11, 03:27 PM
Live stream a CCTV camera that watches said window, put some flyers up around your area advertising the CCTV stream.

Soon stop the coffin dodger perving lol






(trust me to post the most stupid idea.... Sounded clever in my head)

Alex J
17-10-11, 03:46 PM
live in a shoe like mother hubard.
http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/34/86/81/old-mother-hubbard.jpg

1990GTEBOY
17-10-11, 05:43 PM
6 foot fence with concrete posts is the way forward ! use postcrete to set the posts ,its solid in 20 mins so no one can **** with it ! cheaper than a wall .....

Mike
17-10-11, 05:48 PM
Screw a load of ply board over her windows.

Probably the cheapest option IMO lol

John
17-10-11, 09:49 PM
yeah as you look from the rear the boundary to the left is ours.

Royston, yeah she could still nosy from upstairs, but at least we could sit out in the summer and eat meals ect without her bothering us.

Mowgli, trust me, i would like nothing more than for us to get on, if you start a conversation with her you'll never leave it!

Thanks for the help, will speak with our local planning dept. :)

Stuart
17-10-11, 09:57 PM
yeah as you look from the rear the boundary to the left is ours.

Royston, yeah she could still nosy from upstairs, but at least we could sit out in the summer and eat meals ect without her bothering us.

Mowgli, trust me, i would like nothing more than for us to get on, if you start a conversation with her you'll never leave it!

Thanks for the help, will speak with our local planning dept. :)

You need a Mowgli to talk to her...

so thats me and Matt butt neked in the garden and then Mike to talk to her. sounds like a fun weekend

phunkynova
17-10-11, 10:38 PM
Or just be neighbourly, and talk to the woman, and tell her you are putting up a 6' fence for privacy, as you can't be too careful looking after young children these days...
Try speaking to her, some time it's just a misunderstanding between you that gets taken out of proportion (sorry if the spelling is wrong).
If that fails you could do some thing mad !.

MK999
17-10-11, 10:44 PM
If that fails you could do some thing mad !.

If detached, petrol bombs, small explosives, accidental gas explosion etc. Harder if it's semi detached though lol

Possibly just forget the fence etc entirely and just sit in her side? Might just get the message lol

John
17-10-11, 10:58 PM
Try speaking to her, some time it's just a misunderstanding between you that gets taken out of proportion (sorry if the spelling is wrong).
If that fails you could do some thing mad !.

We have both tried speaking to her, like i've said, if you start a conversation with her you'll be there for hours and it's usually just ends in it turning to insults. She used to spend hours distracting my wife in the garden when our daughter was little, when she should have been looking after her, Hence most my wife used to avoid the garden.

Royston
18-10-11, 06:55 AM
Can you not get her as ASBO or the modern equivelent:d

nova_saloon
18-10-11, 04:42 PM
as you said you want to do stick up the highest fence you can possibly do, buy a paintball gun, and at night shoot all her windows in before a sunny day, so she would have to get someone to clean the windows and just do it once they have been cleaned every time, always remebering to give the gun to a friend to hold on to till next time. would be so funny

Andy
18-10-11, 04:57 PM
as you said you want to do stick up the highest fence you can possibly do, buy a paintball gun, and at night shoot all her windows in before a sunny day, so she would have to get someone to clean the windows and just do it once they have been cleaned every time, always remebering to give the gun to a friend to hold on to till next time. would be so funny
Your most welcome to do that on my round,although you will have competition from all the sh1tgulls......

bai1ey
18-10-11, 05:07 PM
agreed on the 6ft fench the only way forward for keeping noisey naihbours at bay

Jeff16v
18-10-11, 05:15 PM
PNG naked bbq - she'll make loads of new friends

TeddyThom
18-10-11, 11:24 PM
PNG naked bbq

Isn't that PV??