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swedge
31-08-11, 06:12 PM
my mums inner cv boot had split and had been split for a while so i said id just buy her a new inner cv

of i trundle to the parts place to find out you cant buy an inner cv you have to buy a full driveshaft, hmm ok then price please........£90 haha no thanks

got one from the scrappies for a tenner

the old d/s basicly fell out after removing the hub but left a part in the gearbox, its held in with a stupid pin thats about 3mm diameter and never been out in its life

i smashed it for a while and gave up as i couldnt get it out, the outer cv on the new d/s was ****ed so had to swap them over

to get the rubber boot on the inner cv you have to first take the outer cv off and the big rubber damper thing thats around the d/s

what the hells wrong with just a normal inner and outer cv?

i hate working on my mums car now, stupid french crap

Mike
31-08-11, 06:17 PM
A few cars are designed similiar. There only "crap" because your used to how easy Nova's fall apart when you undo bolts...

swedge
31-08-11, 06:18 PM
yeah they could have even put a thin nut and bolt through it instead of a stupid pin that was stuck solid, and as for the driveshaft what a palava lol

Mike
31-08-11, 06:33 PM
It just depends on what your used too. Corsa C;s are similiarly **** to work on aswell. Out of every car Ive ever owned the Nova's were definetly the easiest to work with though.

Andy
31-08-11, 06:53 PM
even my 3 year old daughter knows how to work on nova's.She's assisted me with 2 2litre conversions and 3 engine pulls outside on my drive+countless other shiz ive done lol

swedge
31-08-11, 07:19 PM
ever tried removing a turbo from a punto GT haha, thats a mission

Mike
31-08-11, 07:21 PM
ever tried removing a turbo from a punto GT haha, thats a mission

Heater matrix from a Sprinter 311 with the dash & engine still in place, only took me 4 hours :(

swedge
31-08-11, 07:28 PM
Heater matrix from a Sprinter 311 with the dash & engine still in place, only took me 4 hours :(

you one of those guys with 3 wrists and 2 elbows haha

Bubba
31-08-11, 07:51 PM
thats why i like simple old cars...i bet the reason they used a pin was because it saved them a couple of quid.

swedge
31-08-11, 07:53 PM
it wouldnt have been so bad if i had the car on its side or something to get a good swing at it lol

brainsnova
31-08-11, 09:09 PM
French = junk

swedge
31-08-11, 09:31 PM
French = junk


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to brainsnova again.

MK999
31-08-11, 09:35 PM
Cambelt and head/ancillaries back on on a ford pinto, 11 hours after exhaust studs broke, whole front of the engine+rad etc has to come off to do cambelt, which is generally a pain in the ****. autodata quotes just over 4 hours to do the belt.

Engine out and engine in including ancillaries on a nova (1.2 to 1.6) a day, cambelt, 5 minutes lol

swedge
31-08-11, 09:39 PM
Cambelt and head/ancillaries back on on a ford pinto, 11 hours after exhaust studs broke, whole front of the engine+rad etc has to come off to do cambelt, which is generally a pain in the ****. autodata quotes just over 4 hours to do the belt.

Engine out and engine in including ancillaries on a nova (1.2 to 1.6) a day, cambelt, 5 minutes lol

2 mins if you stretch the new one on :)

John
31-08-11, 09:57 PM
I've just put an engine in an A8 at work. 22 hours later........... lol
Yep french = shoite!

Spudly
31-08-11, 11:42 PM
But then again if you'd replaced the split boot when you first spotted it you wouldn't have needed to change the cv :p

Andy
01-09-11, 08:10 AM
But then again if you'd replaced the split boot when you first spotted it you wouldn't have needed to change the cv :p

Exactly what i was thinking-a sign of cv grease all over the front wing is a general indication that all is not gravy........

swedge
01-09-11, 08:15 AM
Exactly what i was thinking-a sign of cv grease all over the front wing is a general indication that all is not gravy........

it was the inner cv so would have been all over the road lol

Alex J
01-09-11, 09:07 AM
just burn everything if it takes to long, or if it gives me the **** to much, smash the **** out of it with an axe.

swedge
01-09-11, 10:24 AM
just burn everything if it takes to long, or if it gives me the **** to much, smash the **** out of it with an axe.

haha believe me if i could get a good swing i would have, it dosnt help when my mum comes out and asks "you finished yet"

grrrrrr

pie
01-09-11, 10:46 AM
same on my cav cant buy inners only on shaft grrrr

AlexW
01-09-11, 12:44 PM
Renault Traffic Van, 3 years old, 100,000 miles and the gearbox has eaten itself.

John
01-09-11, 01:15 PM
Renault Traffic Van, 3 years old, 100,000 miles and the gearbox has eaten itself.

Wow it did that many miles! lol vauxhall vivaro (same van) when i used to work on them would perhaps see 40!

mowgli
01-09-11, 01:16 PM
it was the inner cv so would have been all over the road lol
nope, all over the exhaust...

Andy
01-09-11, 03:00 PM
Either way you would know about it

Edd
01-09-11, 03:11 PM
All french cars are crap, the end

Simple jobs are made mega hard by rubbish design
Electrics are absolutely shocking
Front suspension components are brittle
All that torsion beam crap was nothing but a joke aswell lol

Send them all to Mr merris for some axe loving lol

Spudly
01-09-11, 06:34 PM
Either way you would know about it



my mums inner cv boot had split and had been split for a while


Clearly he already did, so my comment stands alongside yours lol



All french cars are crap, the end




See i can only vouch for renaults as i work at a mainstealer and tbf, they're the safest and one of the most reliable car manufacturer on the road, they all get top marks in the ncap safety tests, the amount of toys you get on them as standard spec is unreal, and as ive said before, newer renaults ive only ever really seen in our workshops for servicing and nothing else!

I know corsa D's are prone to thermal incidents relating to power steering and or air-con faults, i posted up a video of a zafira that got bored out the back of the dealership next door to ours and decided to ignite itself, ive not seen a renault do that:p


And im guessing were talking about an older model clio with more than likely a few miles under its belt, and the cv boot problem obviously boils down to owner neglect (imo) as the problem was known about and ignored for whatever reason, so you cant really blame the car for that one can you!

swedge
01-09-11, 06:40 PM
haha im not blaming the car for the boot splitting, i noticed it had split a few weeks ago and didnt look healthy so i said to her id buy her a new cv and just replace that

untill i found out you cant

swedge
01-09-11, 06:41 PM
and its an 95 with 55k miles, has all the goodies too electric windows/mirrors fog lights blah blah lol

Spudly
01-09-11, 06:48 PM
Lol ill admit things like that are damned annoying but ill bet its a bang on little runner and wont have let you down:p

swedge
01-09-11, 06:51 PM
well i bought it for my mum just over 2 years ago for £200 in that time ive put a clutch, a clutch pedal mechanism and the driveshaft

starts first time every time lol

Spudly
01-09-11, 06:59 PM
Thats nothing for its age in all fairness, sounds like its doing her proud, you fixed it yet then:p

swedge
01-09-11, 07:03 PM
Thats nothing for its age in all fairness, sounds like its doing her proud, you fixed it yet then:p

yeah its all done thank feck, i dont mind doing akward crap on my car but hate when its other peoples even more so since im not even getting paid for it

Spudly
01-09-11, 07:10 PM
Lmfao, thats all this thread was about wasnt it, the fact you had to fix your mums car and werent going to be paid for it, hahahahahaha lol

swedge
01-09-11, 07:12 PM
well i kinda had to fix it, my engine coming out in the next couple days so need transport haha

Spudly
01-09-11, 07:17 PM
Hahahaha i can hear the conversation now, 'muuuuum' 'what' 'can i borrow your car, my engine isnt fitted yet and im without transport, i did fix it for you didnt i, pleeeeaaasseeee, muuummm' lol

swedge
01-09-11, 07:17 PM
Hahahaha i can hear the conversation now, 'muuuuum' 'what' 'can i borrow your car, my engine isnt fitted yet and im without transport, i did fix it for you didnt i, pleeeeaaasseeee, muuummm' lol

haha you know me well lol

Andy
01-09-11, 08:27 PM
All french cars are crap, the end

Simple jobs are made mega hard by rubbish design
Electrics are absolutely shocking
Front suspension components are brittle
All that torsion beam crap was nothing but a joke aswell lol

Send them all to Mr merris for some axe loving lol
I know this a vauxhall forum but is there any car you like other than a Nova sport?
Whatever faults they may have,you cannot say a sh1te french hot hatch has ever been built-they always make a good one,every single one out performs the vauxhall rival,and out corners it-they simply are good at making small fast cars-the end-as you put it...

Spudly
01-09-11, 08:39 PM
they always make a good one,every single one out performs the vauxhall rival,and out corners it-they simply are good at making small fast cars-the end-as you put it...




This (if our head tech/service manager at work is correct) is proven by the fact that vauxhalls turbo charged vxr range wont meet upcoming emissions regs, whereas renaults range of (more powerful) turbocharged and even the n/a hot hatches smash the emissions regs by a long way, shows how good the french are at making engines, and indeed hot hatches!

Even lookswise the current RS range are winners imo:d


Megane RS250

http://www.sacarfan.co.za/wp-content/gallery/renault-megane-rs-250/sacarfan-renault-megane-rs-250-01.jpg


Clio RS200

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvAeDPnEeSEr9VkxFzAEo_FxwNwJs05 Z-acFEiB2dgbJDOEtuT

Interior of clio, Recaro nom-ness:d

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSIvC2cCqYj-xfILkJVC4lM9HrmWQPBpPAbFNtNKz-AVZ7JqfrDkw

John
01-09-11, 09:42 PM
yep i'll hand it to you spud, the french are good at making engines, but not this good. :p 350 bhp hatch, yes please! lol

http://www.autotia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/2011-Audi-RS3-Sportback-Wagon-Engine-Photo-580x410.jpg

http://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/new-cars/rs/rs3-sportback/tfsi-engine/tfsi-engine/_jcr_content/main-stage/tab_content/container1/generic_image.img.png
fitted in this.

https://www.carleasing-online.co.uk/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Audi-RS3.jpg

Spudly
01-09-11, 09:54 PM
But, what cc is that beasty, pretty as it is:d

John
01-09-11, 09:56 PM
Does it matter? lol (2.5) Audi germany have already tuned it to 400bhp+!

Spudly
01-09-11, 09:58 PM
Just wondering, as imo, 250bhp from a 2.0 engine aint to be sniffed at, but that is a definately impressive acchievement by Audi there, i love the RS4 estates for some reason lol

Mike
01-09-11, 10:14 PM
LOL love all this french car hating lol Vauxhalls must be that good they had to actually drop out of the WRC (shocker!) where as over recent years french marques have been owning lol

Spudly
01-09-11, 10:26 PM
Ahhhh, here steps up a very well knowledged chap lol



Was waiting for your take on this thread Mike:d

Mike
01-09-11, 10:32 PM
lolage, Ive been watching this thread over the last day or so tbh.

Ive had a few Novas & also a few 205's (1.9s & 1.6s) like for like as standard, the Pug handles sooooo much better then a Nova! Then moved onto 106 GTi's, sooo easy to get near 180 horse out of them compared to ANY GM 1600 16v from that kinda time line.

Spudly
01-09-11, 11:09 PM
If only i could re-rep you, i think youre one of the few who actually have real life experience as to what an out of the box french hot car will do, and to see you reply in the face of the blinkered ones is just awesomeness:d

MK999
01-09-11, 11:19 PM
I don't think anyone could honestly say a Nova outhandles a cardboard box as standard, doesn't make french cars any less crap. Running them leaner than Vaux to get a nice emissions statistic doesn't make them awesome either lol Ze French produce more track orientated cars than anyone else, but that doesn't mean they're well built at all.

BTW for those waiting to pile on the "blinkered" comments, Vauxhalls are ****e too :p

Edd
02-09-11, 08:00 AM
Having owned A 106 GTI i can honestly say it is the worst car i have ever owned

Yes a standard nova would get creamed by a 106 but if a decent suspension kit was fitted to the nova then there's no contest, plus you don't have to be constantly worried about losing the rest end on a nova

The turning circle on the Pug was nothing short of embarrassing tbh

The GTI i had was a low millage one, after about 5k of driving out to my mums on country lanes the whole front end was ruined, top mounts, ball joints, shocks, bushes, rack etc. This never happened on my GTE even after I fitted a XE.

All that added to shocking electrics and the crap torsion beam makes a awful car

Yes some people can have blinkers on with vauxhalls but I'm just speaking from experience :)

Hobbit
02-09-11, 09:16 AM
There must be something about shonky old nova's to make you lot hang around on here, if its not the cars it must be the community. Yes that's right, us nova owners are awesome!

End of and all that :p

Stuart
02-09-11, 09:34 AM
Mrs's 106 was a hideous car to work on due to ropey packaging, but I think some of the reliability issues it had were down to her getting in and flicking the switch that was the throttle pedal lol.
I had a shagged 205 TD for a while and all it cost me was a new rad and a service, both easy to do.

Have to say I'm impressed with the 182 brapmobile thus far. Done 9K in it and all I've had to change is the brake pads (mainly because all 1*2's I drove didnt meet my braking requirements). Its on 100K now and as I've said before all it looks like its had is servicing.

ALL cars are **** thesedays due to costdowns etc. Some are nicer to work on than others and some just need a little experience to work on properly.
Feck it took two of us 35 mins to work out how to remove a MK2 Audi TT rear light to change the bulbs lol

swedge
02-09-11, 03:42 PM
well the car was in for its mot today, and it passed

when she took it in last week they said it would fail on the rear brake pipe, i had a look and there was nothing wrong with them just the nut was a tiny bit rusty

a little bit wet and dry and it passed lol

mowgli
02-09-11, 03:52 PM
hmmmm.. our local mot place always says track rod ends.......

we put an L200 truck in there at 3years old, and sure enough the worker who went was told TRE....& told to drive it back at no more than 25mph... so i checked it & there was minimal play on the lh tre... so they fitted a new one on the RH.. but we pulled a fast one on them by demanding the old one back as we were not out of warranty from the dealer......and miraculously never got billed for it.....

swedge
02-09-11, 03:56 PM
most of the garages here are always brake pipes, mine passed yesterday 1st time with no advisories :)

mowgli
02-09-11, 04:19 PM
its an easy con... what with the salt useage on the road up there.

swedge
02-09-11, 04:26 PM
haha its not that bad lol, i live closer to england than i do edinburgh

mowgli
02-09-11, 04:39 PM
Hmmm.... Unless there is an englishman in the room.....cough cough

swedge
02-09-11, 04:41 PM
http://i1.bebo.com/034/10/mediuml/2007/05/24/11/975528222a4470921184b112081234ml.jpg

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Mike
02-09-11, 04:58 PM
I can honestly say out of all the french motors Ive owned (mostly pre or very early NL usage days) the only issues I ever had was x1 seized 205 engine (1.6) and a perished rad & associated hoses on a 1.9. Other then general servicing like disc's & pads etc Ive never really had many issues at all.

(Other then landing a Saxo on its roof but thats another story altogether).

mowgli
02-09-11, 05:27 PM
i fixed up my brothers 205d 5 dr.... the front lower arm bushes were shot & when you cornered, it would keep turning, with no self centering.. that was scary.....
new arms & tracking made it remarkably good again.
we had a clio van (went for scrappage) and it kept wrecking the front exhaust joint... the garage couldn't understand it.. cos the idiots weren't looking at it with the engine running.. i rear mount later, and it ran great.. until the lad who used it had a mishap with the spare.. he fitted a plywood floor in it & decided a tek screw would do the trick to hold it, so banged one straight thru the floor & spare. we only found out when he couldn't get the spare out when he had a puncture.......