View Full Version : Ive had enough of the TV Licence fee......so
windfreek
10-08-11, 12:24 PM
please join me and make the government abolish the TV LICENCE FEE
If you agree and have facebook or whatever, Post this as your status for just one day, ask your family and friends to do the same, then take a moment to sign the official on-line government petition before August 2012
E-PETITION LINK HERE (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/264)
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http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/264
seen this on the tv, iirc if they get 100,000 signatures, dont they have to take to seriously..?
ffs
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Gaz1300SR
10-08-11, 12:33 PM
All thought I agree TV licence is a piss take.... this is pointless because the bbc, much like the government, don't give a toss what we the public think.
one of the guys i work with used to work at TVL. He says they dont care regardless...just like council tax... and the department i work in Non domestic rates... were all a bunch of heartless robots im afraid loL!(or so im told on a daily basis)
100k and it gets discussed in parliament. In other words, they go "Should the license fee be abolished? No? Ok then, next item..." lol
£145 a year is fine by me anyway (£12 a month FFS, its hardly breaking the bank) to keep at least a handful of channels that don't have crappy adverts every 5 mins.
If you don't want to pay it, go get Sky or something. Oh wait, that costs money too... oh dear lol
Still need a tv licence to watch sky iirc
if you have a tv in the house you need the TVL any way loL! even if you watch tv on your computer you have to have a TVL...used to be a loop hole is no longer GHEY! *i tried that one lol
The only way to make them ever listen is if NOBODY paid it again.They cant summons everybody to court!
if you have a tv in the house you need the TVL any way loL! even if you watch tv on your computer you have to have a TVL...used to be a loop hole is no longer GHEY! *i tried that one lol
not true i am afraid unless the law around this has changed in the last couple of months.
you can have a tv in the house to watch dvds/play games you can also watch things such as i player as long as your not watching things as or be4 they are broadcast on tv.
you dont have to pay a TVL i know this becos we had to sort it for the monther in law they come and check if your property is reciving(sp) any singnals without you nowing
we got a fine for not having a licence to listen to a radio in the workplace oncelol
providing its installed to receive now digital signal you have to pay, so providing you dont set that up you can shuv ur middle finger at em. but tbf whos only going to play dvds and games??? o_0 HOW BORING! lol
Anything that can receive a tv signal means you need a license lol
Pistol Pete
10-08-11, 03:51 PM
Scrapping the TVL would be a bad thing IMO. The cost of telly would get stupid. And seeing as we already moan because we are taxed left right and centre, £12pm is not alot to watch telly.
see in my old house i was paying £22...but even so you are right tbh. Ide rather pay that than what it could be! :o
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Get in the real world please for god sake.....
craig green
10-08-11, 07:01 PM
UK terrestrial Television does generally suck though,
for all the millions of citizens that have an interest, be it a sport or hobby, chances are about 60% of viewers dont see any of what they would like to. TV industry boffins will never change from showing endless soap opera drivel, Golf, football, Tennis for 2 weeks in June, countless news broadcasts accross numerous channels at the same time oh & we get a dedicated channel for following what goes on in the commons.
I'm off to catch an episode of Friends I've never seen before.
providing its installed to receive now digital signal you have to pay, so providing you dont set that up you can shuv ur middle finger at em. but tbf whos only going to play dvds and games??? o_0 HOW BORING! lol
actually...that would be me. TV is **** nowadays. plus i cant get signal where i live
Tv is garbage,i rarely see anything worth watching,more soaps than Body Shop,drivel like Jeremy Kyle and trisha and whoever else,endless road wars,police camera action,traffic cops,Top gear and friends repeats.
windfreek
10-08-11, 08:57 PM
Still need a tv licence to watch sky iirc
apparently part of the SKY fee goes to the BBC to buy their rights for real-time braodcasting etc etc
Scrapping the TVL would be a bad thing IMO. The cost of telly would get stupid. And seeing as we already moan because we are taxed left right and centre, £12pm is not alot to watch telly.
not sure how the cost of watching tv would go up if theres no fee's, USA, CANADA CHINA RUSSIA SPAIN etc etc all seem to be doing well without a fee
Tv is garbage,i rarely see anything worth watching,more soaps than Body Shop,drivel like Jeremy Kyle and trisha and whoever else,endless road wars,police camera action,traffic cops,Top gear and friends repeats.
None of which is on BBC (aside from TG, but thats generally not repeats), which is what the license fee pays for lol
None of which is on BBC (aside from TG, but thats generally not repeats), which is what the license fee pays for lol
I know im just on about Tv in general,it is dire
If you are capable of viewing a broadcast in realtime (even satellite counts as realtime) then you must have a TVL.
Soooooooo you all dont want to pay for the BBC, BUT are outraged about the BBC losing F1 to sky and say that the BBC should pay more blah blah blah and how the F1 will be carp on sky. Think how many adverts the BBC would need to put in to fund the F1.
When watching a DVD version of a US tv program their half hour shows are 22mins and their 1hour shows are in the order of 40mins long...... Enjoy the adverts if we go truely commercial TV
If you are capable of viewing a broadcast in realtime (even satellite counts as realtime) then you must have a TVL.
Soooooooo you all dont want to pay for the BBC, BUT are outraged about the BBC losing F1 to sky and say that the BBC should pay more blah blah blah and how the F1 will be carp on sky. Think how many adverts the BBC would need to put in to fund the F1.
When watching a DVD version of a US tv program their half hour shows are 22mins and their 1hour shows are in the order of 40mins long...... Enjoy the adverts if we go truely commercial TV
Amen to that!
Ill stick to my TiVo box & record all the best shÃ*t using mobile phone remote acess when at work lol WINNAR!
windfreek
10-08-11, 10:07 PM
If you are capable of viewing a broadcast in realtime (even satellite counts as realtime) then you must have a TVL.
Soooooooo you all dont want to pay for the BBC, BUT are outraged about the BBC losing F1 to sky and say that the BBC should pay more blah blah blah and how the F1 will be carp on sky. Think how many adverts the BBC would need to put in to fund the F1.
When watching a DVD version of a US tv program their half hour shows are 22mins and their 1hour shows are in the order of 40mins long...... Enjoy the adverts if we go truely commercial TV
Yes I am well and truely hacked off about the beeb getting rid of the F1, but theres a bigger picture its the overall sheer cost of it and the fact that the BBC throw the money away regardless, one of the main problems is and I state that the BBC is not accountable to us, license fee payers, in any part. The BBC certainly needs to be more open and transparent about the way in which it is run. For example, I could argue that the salaries of BBC talent must be published. Only this way can we have a full and open debate about what license fee money is used for, and
what the BBC should be paying its staff.
For example did you or have you ever agreed with the fees split in such a way that they spend £374million a year of the licence fees generated chasing the deprived and poor like single mothers for a licence fee that they can ill afford or in that a total £8.91 of everyone's licence fee went to the outstanding and highly moral Jonathan Woss in a payout to get rid of him, never mind his salary
£2.6 billion is spent each year on actors/presenters salaries, 40% of which are apparently paid more than 800k, 30% more than 300k, 20% less than 300k and the remaining 10% between £6 to £10.7million
so as my math goes and as no-one is worth more than 300k let alone millions, that equates to £1.3 billion in just the top 50% salaries, divide that between the 23million tv licences and it would save us all £56quid, nearly a third off the total fee....
I'm assuming there is a chunk of cash taken out of the TVL for infrastructure like transmitters etc. I guess you want those all turned to low to use less electricity to cost less etc, but then need more of them lol
Yes the people in the beeb get paid a fortune, but if you cut their cash by big chunks they would all leave and there would be chaff all on there. Granted there isnt much worth watching on the bbc channels anymore, and when they do make something I like they only do 3-6 episodes of the damn things (no not top gear, that can FOAD for all I care).
Incidentally, do you want Sky/Vergin to be transparent with their costs as they charge far more for the service they provide. Granted thats a choice but you can chose to not pay TVL with enough patience.
Just binning BBC 3 or 4 would save enough to cut costs and drop TVL or make better programming for the remaining stations. I remember when BBC2 friday nights used to be so damn good that I put nights out off till saturday/sunday lol
not sure how the cost of watching tv would go up if theres no fee's, USA, CANADA CHINA RUSSIA SPAIN etc etc all seem to be doing well without a fee
On the basis I don't have Sky - my cost of watching TV would go up so it would cost me more money.
Moan about something important - for example the fact that we're in dire need of landfill in the next 5 years unless we suddenly manage to become zero waste. That's an issue I'm interested in as it means we're going to get taxed a ****ing **** load on what we throw away.
You can have something receiving TV signal as long as it's not plugged in, anywhere, as it counts as a mobile device. I.E laptop with a free standing aerial running on battery not mains is fine as is your mate using his mobile in your house if you don't have a TV license, for the same reason.
Also the whole we can tell what you're watching from outside and detect you receiving signal thing is total bull to scare people in to paying. You can barely detect the tiny amount of radiation given off by an aerial receiving signal, and even if you could it's resonant, so it gives out er, the original signal, which there is an ever so slightly stronger source of, a fapping huge transmitter. So basically they sit outside your house and watch TV (without a license no less, mobile device/van!) but that's about it.
They also have as much right to enter your home and inspect your TV as a door to door salesman or TV selling thief does.
But all that aside, £140 quid a year lost in your bills of fuel, gas, electricity, mortgage/rent etc is hardly backbreaking. If it is then sack off the TV.
windfreek
10-08-11, 11:21 PM
...But all that aside, £140 quid a year lost in your bills of fuel, gas, electricity, mortgage/rent etc is hardly backbreaking. If it is then sack off the TV.
but the point is they still force ppl to pay for it regardless.
if i dont agree with the bbc's propaganda, i still have to pay to not watch it just so i can see a free station like ITV??
thats like saying the M6 toll, or any toll wont be charged anymore on the basis of if you use it or not, and just ramp your Road tax up another £300 a year to cover the shortfalls.
Europe is slowly turning us into the USSR of years gone by, and is all as a direct product of what Europe has caused by interfering, you have no further to look than your local shops been looted and torched as we speak all down to the youth having no respect nor the Police having any physical powers they can use without them been accused of police brutality or race crimes...
If i could, id get the hell outta dodge, but thanks to the recession I have none of my 10k savings left that i was gonna emigrate with....
I would say the country's cone to the dogs, but i doubt the dogs would want it either
thats like saying the M6 toll, or any toll wont be charged anymore on the basis of if you use it or not, and just ramp your Road tax up another £300 a year to cover the shortfalls.
Thats not really a fair analogy though; as Stu pointed out, a portion of the license fee goes towards infrastructure. People pay the M6 toll if they use the M6 (by driving on the road) - people pay the license fee if they use the TV (by receiving a signal via a transmitter, which was funded by the license fee... which everyone who watches TV does).
If they canned TG, that would save a chunk on the license fee no doubt. Sending Clarkson to Oz to do a 10 second one-liner skit probably wasn't cheap, especially when you consider he probably flew at least club lol Mind you, it wouldn't surprise me if it pays for itself, if manufacturers stick a few quid in the beeb's pocket to give a car a good review lol
Seen as BBC is public money though, surely a well-worded FOI request could reveal some figures?
No-body has mentioned that the BBC constantly advertises there other related channels etc and, at christmas time they advertise digital radios for sale......should be no commercial advertising!
The licenece should be £40 if they got rid of all the stupid salaries and rubbish, a bit like the government then!
windfreek
11-08-11, 03:15 PM
Thats not really a fair analogy though; as Stu pointed out, a portion of the license fee goes towards infrastructure.
Well back in 1922 that may have been true, the BBC, or the company they owned called IBA sold all of their transmitters off to a separate company back in 1997 who became National Grid PLC, they have now in turn sold it off to another private company called Arqiva, a worlwide company back in 2007 prior to the switch-over, all the channels pay into the broadcast system that they supply, so in part the bbc only pay 19% of the running costs as ppl like BT pay 29% and ITV pay 14% etc etc, or another way to put it is that just £12 of the licence fee is for the infastructure costs including running all the national BBC buildings in electric and gas
dig your eyes out with spoons and eat them, that way you save the tv licence money as there no point paying as you wont see anything, plus you get a free meal.double win!
windfreek
11-08-11, 08:22 PM
For anyone who tried to even access the petition page you would have seen an error page for the last few days, its now obvious why, 100k sigs in a few days against the rioters would crash it i suppose....
"The e-petitions site is having problems at the moment. We need to temporarily suspend the creation and signing of e-petitions to allow us to make sure everything is working properly for you
We aim to re-open the e-petitions site by Friday morning (12th August).
We're very sorry for the inconvenience this causes you.
The e-petition entitled “Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits” has now passed the threshold of 100,000 signatures and has been passed to the Backbench Business Committee to consider for debate. It will continue to be available for signature once the site is re-opened."
Angus Closier
11-08-11, 11:35 PM
Im not being funny but isnt there more important things to complain about? As said before so what if 100,000 people sign up? Only means they have to look at it......like f*ck will they change anything? If you dont want to pay it dont......simple as. Its unfair but what isnt? No one cares if tv is that bigger deal £120 or whatever is a small price to pay? No different to paying bt for a line rental/ company paying it on behalf of you? Loads of more important things like giving police more power to worry about.........just imo of course
I did say a portion, I didn't say how much lol
Loads of more important things like giving police more power to worry about.........just imo of course
Exactly, now is when the police get a whole load of knee-jerk powers - sit back and wait til the next riots, the police go in heavy handed as per new regulations, someone gets killed/injured and the police are back on the chopping block getting hammered by the public and media for coming on too strong. Don't believe it'll happen? G20, lol
Problem with taking away the rioter's benefits is they then end up in a hole they can't get out of. They're rioting because of supposed poverty, yet take away what (apparently) little money they have and you end up with a worse situation. What really needs to be done is to replace benefit money with benefit vouchers that can only be spent on the essentials - living costs (by that I mean housing and utilities, not luxuries such as games consoles and pr0n), food (basic groceries, not pizza and beer), public transport vouchers, etc. Its clear they can't manage their own money to buy the things they need to get by, so Nanny Government will have to step in and manage it all for them. Think I might create a petition to that effect actually lol
[edit] Childcare is done by vouchers, no? So why not do other benefits in the same way... it'd stop 16 year old mummy spending her weekly child benefit on 5 packs of rizlas each time
TG is the only reason i'm happy paying for the licence lol
[edit] Childcare is done by vouchers, no? So why not do other benefits in the same way... it'd stop 16 year old mummy spending her weekly child benefit on 5 packs of rizlas each time
Yup :thumb: and any money towards food for healthy eating is all vouchers too. So it can be done :)
TG is the only reason i'm happy paying for the licence lol
TG FTMFW PLUS +rep!!!!!!
I did say a portion, I didn't say how much lol
Exactly, now is when the police get a whole load of knee-jerk powers - sit back and wait til the next riots, the police go in heavy handed as per new regulations, someone gets killed/injured and the police are back on the chopping block getting hammered by the public and media for coming on too strong. Don't believe it'll happen? G20, lol
Problem with taking away the rioter's benefits is they then end up in a hole they can't get out of. They're rioting because of supposed poverty, yet take away what (apparently) little money they have and you end up with a worse situation. What really needs to be done is to replace benefit money with benefit vouchers that can only be spent on the essentials - living costs (by that I mean housing and utilities, not luxuries such as games consoles and pr0n), food (basic groceries, not pizza and beer), public transport vouchers, etc. Its clear they can't manage their own money to buy the things they need to get by, so Nanny Government will have to step in and manage it all for them. Think I might create a petition to that effect actually lol
[edit] Childcare is done by vouchers, no? So why not do other benefits in the same way... it'd stop 16 year old mummy spending her weekly child benefit on 5 packs of rizlas each time
Give them vouchers for stuff and you will be back in the 'poverty hole' you spoke of above....
Only in terms of not being able to afford life's luxuries though? The previous poverty hole I was on about was barely having enough money to eat, being out on your **** with no home etc - with benefits in vouchers then sure you can't afford that shiny new xstationbox3 but at least you have a roof over your head and food on the table
benefits in vouchers sounds like a sorta good idea.
Only in terms of not being able to afford life's luxuries though? The previous poverty hole I was on about was barely having enough money to eat, being out on your **** with no home etc - with benefits in vouchers then sure you can't afford that shiny new xstationbox3 but at least you have a roof over your head and food on the table
note most of the scumbag uprising was NOT to steal food (bar the spazz who nicked a bag of value basmati rice).... They wanted the things the "rich people" had/have.... So you give the scumbags food vouchers instead of cash and they will go stealing/dealing etc to pay for sky tv (as its the scumbag must have of course), to obtain games consoles/pc's/laptops and so on.
I reckon petty crime would increase massively if we gave them benefits in vouchers :(
Childcare tax creds are paid into bank Jack.
You could sell the benefit vouchers to people easily-£30 morrisons voucher for £25 anyone??-you would sell them ALL day long.
It couldnt possibly work.
People just cant be arssed anymore,they have given up and instead turn to drinking and smoking gear which is pathetic.
Some people need to look at real poverty,not being able to have a smartphone or plasma tv is not poverty.
They have blamed government cuts etc but the rich stay rich,the benefits stay on benefits and its us-the working class that has the hardest job to pull the country out this sorry cesspool it has become.
I hate this country with a passion,theres nothing "great" about britain,its a sh1thole,and an embarassment.
Oh and a prime example how benefits vouchers ALREADY dont work-a shop run by a pakistani family in my native hull used to accept milk tokens as payment for alcohol and fags/papers.
Nuff said.
I hate this country with a passion,theres nothing "great" about britain,its a sh1thole,and an embarassment.
+1
Wouldn't be too hard to restrict usage of vouchers to the items they were supposed to cover, and link them to some form of ID (but oh no the general public are against carrying ID cards - even though we all carry id cards for driving, banking, etc). Pretty much every shop out there has an EPOS, so they could be redeemed through that.
Its more than doable. Stu, thats just a problem with society as a whole though, people have to accept they can't afford all life's luxuries (I can't afford a yacht, doesn't mean I just go out and take one). If petty theft goes up then meh, just lock them up for it lol. Might encourage them to knuckle down and earn some cash. Or not lol
The cost to enforce would be obscene though i would imagine.Still could sell them by going shopping with said buyer,then taking the money once ones card were swiped etc lol
Its alright the government saying "everyone has to take a test when on incapacity benefit,and anyone who fails has their benefit stopped and MUST WORK"
Yeah......ok..........really bright idea,since there are no jobs already for those that WANT TO WORK
The fukktards need to get a serious reality check with whats going on in the country,but then i suppose when all you see everyday is green benches and jumped up fukknuts talking babba all day then i suppose its quite easy to become detached from whats really happening here..
mk1nova_rich
14-08-11, 02:08 PM
+rep for Andy
Ship out all the fooking Polish coonts that have stolen all the jobs after the Labour retards let them all flow in
That is the main reason why there are no jobs, government need to realise this
If there hadn't been the influx there would be jobs for those who want to work but can't find a job
Ship out all the fooking Polish coonts that have stolen all the jobs after the Labour retards let them all flow in
That is the main reason why there are no jobs, government need to realise this
If there hadn't been the influx there would be jobs for those who want to work but can't find a job
Most of them havent stolen the jobs,theyve took the jobs that bone idle brits couldnt be arssed to do.
Most of them havent stolen the jobs,theyve took the jobs that bone idle brits couldnt be arssed to do.
bingo.
No jobs have been 'stolen', more like the migrant workers keeping the country going!!!
Also for there are so many jobs about its almost obscene..... there is a massive lack of skilled workers in the UK though :( hence why we have to go and find engineering folks from other countries
So if all the euros wernt here there wouldnt be more jobs avalible then ?
Time people started building up people in this country instead of looking to europe
There are jobs local to me that are mainly agency based, agency is run by euros, no local people get a look in, nothing short of a piss take
If i was a teenager seeing this happen time and time again I'd be pissed off by now tbh
Yes there are the coonts that don't want work but there's alot of english people fed up with being overlooked for jobs in England
paul james
14-08-11, 04:33 PM
I'd say the problem was that the government wasn't tough enough and should have forced people to do jobs they didn't really want to and get off the dole. Then there wouldn't have been an influx of foreign workers - as there wouldn't have been jobs for them to do.
Its all part of being in the EU though, minimal border control etc.
Its laughable how people are still moaning about immigration after last weeks events,i think thats the least of the governments/anybodies worries now.
Trying to tame a retarded generation is obviously a lot higher on the agenda.
So if all the euros wernt here there wouldnt be more jobs avalible then ?
Good to see you didnt actually read what I said lol
The migrant workers havent stolen any jobs at all..... its the lazy good for nothing brits that think they are all owed a 30K+ job so refuse to do the litter picking/coffee shop working/waiting/almost all other customer facing service jobs on the high streets etc which the migrant workers see as a good opportunity to go and prosper in. Feck if you were in poland and saw you could make a truck load of cash with ease in the UK you'd do it!
Heck I went and got paid a ton of cash to play spanner monkey in Germany a few years ago!
As a teenager they should see all these migrant workers in the bottom of the employment market and strive to do better in school/college/whatever work they get to get the thousands of jobs that are about in the semi skilled to professional levels. But I guess if people are terminally thick they wont see that to have shiney things they must put in the graft to get there.
But I guess if people are terminally thick they wont see that to have shiney things they must put in the graft to get there.
Takes plenty of graft to get there. I mean up all night rioting, thats pretty hard work after a few nights lol
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