D.I.Y flocking kits

[pie]

any one use them ?
weres the best place to but a kit etc

thanks :thumb:

[bazil]

iirc paul used one, its not really flocking, more just covering your dash with glue then throwing flock material at it, ive tried the ebay stuff and the Frost kit, all i'll say is that id never use it on a full dash. waste of time imo

[nova ian]

I've done a few bits with the frost kit.

Results aren't the best, but for the money it's not bad if you take your time. Very messy though! lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/NovaFlock4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/NovaFlock5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/NovaFlock3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/cruisindude/nova/flock.jpg

[Prey]

If you are after stuff flocked I have the proper kit, pm me if you are interested.

[pie]

nova ian they look kool :thumb:

[nova ian]

If you are after stuff flocked I have the proper kit, pm me if you are interested.

This man is your best bet, see iainel's project thread for pics of his stuff. Alot better quality than my efforts!

[brainsnova]

Whats flocking like to clean when it gets dusty.

[Southie]

Is this any good for you?
http://ramsport.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=15

[bazil]

Whats flocking like to clean when it gets dusty.

Hover it, wash it, wipe it etc etc. I've seen many things flocked from dashboards to rocker covers to even wheels!

[brainsnova]

Hover it, wash it, wipe it etc etc. I've seen many things flocked from dashboards to rocker covers to even wheels!

Thanks I'm thinking of doing my transit dash lol

[Prey]

It's very hard wearing stuff if prepped properly.

I've yet to flock any wheels but I have a set for myself which I'm going to try.

[Prey]

This man is your best bet, see iainel's project thread for pics of his stuff. Alot better quality than my efforts!

Don't down yourself mate - that is brilliant considering it was a puffer!

[Southie]

Flocking wheels, get a grip man lol

[Benn]

iirc paul used one, its not really flocking, more just covering your dash with glue then throwing flock material at it, ive tried the ebay stuff and the Frost kit, all i'll say is that id never use it on a full dash. waste of time imo

Not true. You can buy the guns that make the anti static charge to make the balls of flock stick glue, and other the glue. So there is no masking up and stuff.

[novaboyopr]

i really wouldnt bother mate, its cheap as chips from companys, ive currently got an astra mk4 dash with suffolk flocking services. really good blokes to deal with and in newbury.

[bazil]

Not true. You can buy the guns that make the anti static charge to make the balls of flock stick glue, and other the glue. So there is no masking up and stuff.

Yes on eBay you can get a flock applicator, the cheapest I've seen was £80 fir a used one and £150 for a new or or get a fabricoater one for £350, then there is the issue of propperly conductive resin and then the dye to colour the resin never mind buying the actual flock aswell,

I've yet to see this amount of stuff sold as a kit, the DIY kits that you get on eBay for £30 and frost aswell are nothing like proper electrostatic flocking kits.

Trust this Benn I have looked deeply into this Market and all possible types of kits avalible for different applications, I have bought the 2 bottle kit from eBay and a very similar kit from frost and was disappointed with the results, but I suppose you get what you pay for.

[Benn]

Ah ok dude, i've never looked in the the machine so.

[Chris @ PRP]

The DIY Puffer kits are OK if your doing very small trims like vent surrounds etc but anything bigger you will need an Electrostatic flock applicator. This charges the flock fibres and makes them attach to the substrate at right angles.

Then, its all about careful preparation using the correct materials (resins/primers) and also the enviroment that your going to be doing the flocking.

Ideally, the flocking area/room should have a relative humidity of 60% and a temperature of 20C and must be sealed. Doing it in your shed or garage will reflect on the final finish (Cack)

You then need to think of prepping the substrate which is the most important part as plastics in most cars are designed to be self releasing to repel dirt & particles from sticking to them. The consequence of this is that no epoxy resin will naturally glue to this surface. This is where you need to use special solutions before the adhesive is applied to help the epoxy gain a chemical bond with the plastic to be flocked. If you dont do this then the flock will naturally peel off in time.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Chris

[Prey]

Then, its all about careful preparation using the correct materials (resins/primers) and also the enviroment that your going to be doing the flocking.

totally agree, the actual flocking process itself is *relatively* quick/simple after all the prep and setting up.

[NADUK]

any one use them ?
weres the best place to but a kit etc

thanks :thumb:

If you want something with a decent finish and lifespan don't bother with a kit.


I've done a few bits with the frost kit.

Results aren't the best, but for the money it's not bad if you take your time. Very messy though! lol

Thats not a bad finish for the puffer kits, I'm impressed.


Whats flocking like to clean when it gets dusty.

As before, wash, wipe, hoover, my external stuff will stand up to jetwashing, couldn't say for other companies though.


Is this any good for you?
http://ramsport.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=15

I'm not sure if Ramsport do it in house, if they do they certainly don't use their kits they sell lol


Hover it, wash it, wipe it etc etc. I've seen many things flocked from dashboards to rocker covers to even wheels!

Most likely mine seeing as I was the first to do wheels and rocker covers. I carried it out as durability testing which was why I did it.


It's very hard wearing stuff if prepped properly.

I've yet to flock any wheels but I have a set for myself which I'm going to try.

The main issues with wheels is the complexity of them, you will most likely need to use an air assisted machine to get the best finish.


Flocking wheels, get a grip man lol

As above, they were done for durability.


Yes on eBay you can get a flock applicator, the cheapest I've seen was £80 fir a used one and £150 for a new or or get a fabricoater one for £350, then there is the issue of propperly conductive resin and then the dye to colour the resin never mind buying the actual flock aswell,

I've yet to see this amount of stuff sold as a kit, the DIY kits that you get on eBay for £30 and frost aswell are nothing like proper electrostatic flocking kits.

Trust this Benn I have looked deeply into this Market and all possible types of kits avalible for different applications, I have bought the 2 bottle kit from eBay and a very similar kit from frost and was disappointed with the results, but I suppose you get what you pay for.

You would be suprised how many companies dont use the proper glue or even use dyes, hence they cheap prices. The glue and dyes are the most expensive consumable, flock is the cheap bit.


The DIY Puffer kits are OK if your doing very small trims like vent surrounds etc but anything bigger you will need an Electrostatic flock applicator. This charges the flock fibres and makes them attach to the substrate at right angles.

Then, its all about careful preparation using the correct materials (resins/primers) and also the enviroment that your going to be doing the flocking.

Ideally, the flocking area/room should have a relative humidity of 60% and a temperature of 20C and must be sealed. Doing it in your shed or garage will reflect on the final finish (Cack)

You then need to think of prepping the substrate which is the most important part as plastics in most cars are designed to be self releasing to repel dirt & particles from sticking to them. The consequence of this is that no epoxy resin will naturally glue to this surface. This is where you need to use special solutions before the adhesive is applied to help the epoxy gain a chemical bond with the plastic to be flocked. If you dont do this then the flock will naturally peel off in time.

Hope this helps

Cheers

Chris

Chris, you don't work with Raj by any chance do you or close to him as he was Wrexham based, well still is but not by DT any more.

Thought I would drop in a few pics that may interest.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/296488_10150813169680072_535680071_20921915_807607 394_n.jpg
Latest set of wheels at Players show

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/309746_10150809283785072_535680071_20893467_885713 514_n.jpg

Set of Honda control arms and lower brace

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/252854_10150622006625072_535680071_18899473_766989 8_n.jpg

Refurbed Momo steering wheel

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/226493_10150607807740072_535680071_18760016_227173 2_n.jpg

Flocked two tone british flag for a mini roof

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/229058_10150578337170072_535680071_18443283_569792 3_n.jpg

Bentley wing, basically the painters messed up all the panelbeating etc and the car was needed next day for a wedding so we decided to flock it to hide the defects (the rest of the car was trimmed in black leather outside).

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/215300_10150563704305072_535680071_18274502_441012 9_n.jpg

Mk2 Atra Turbo inlet manifold (done all the polished bits as the owner has got tired of polishing them, distributror, fans etc etc)

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/6251_217752260071_535680071_7608793_1275272_n.jpg

Rocker covers and finally below, some old wheels that eventrually covered 17k miles

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/6251_217752270071_535680071_7608795_2294155_n.jpg

oh and my flocked Evo

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/162612_10150340524550072_535680071_16139293_427149 8_n.jpg

[pie]

some nice pics buddy seen wheels n rockers done years ago

[joff-turbo-nova]

Electrostatic all the way - flocking has come way down in price - when I was looking at this about 5-6 years ago it was about £400 for a dash - its a quarter of that now.

I bought a hand held electrostatic applicator - you need to have the right adhesive as well - I was using epoxy based stuff which had an adhesive and hardener part - mix together and you have a 30 minute window to get the flock applied.

Joff

[turbojolt]

Whats this flocking stuff like weather wise as my hardtop for the mx5 needs repainting to look mint but I wouldn't mind it flocked black think it would look good tbh also how much.would I be looking at and could the rear window and rubber stay in place whill its being flocked

[bazil]

Think how much abuse an action man got when you were a kid, his hair was flock, if done professionally it would be fine.

[bazil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UabqHy37w&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[turbojolt]

Oooooh really never realised that lol might have to get a quote on it think it could look really good

[bazil]

Go back 1 page and see the wheels and engine parts posted earlier

[turbojolt]

I did see them but the wheels look.like they have only just been done I want to know it will hold up to weather abuse for years not weeks matey

[bazil]

As said earlier, the resin and proper application is the key but it should last a good few years,

[turbojolt]

Sounds Like a good option then better then repaying money wise aswell

[Connor]

oh and my flocked Evo

saw this at trax 2010, looked awesome
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/59072_427119119925_637964925_5183014_4170691_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/59072_427119124925_637964925_5183015_2541327_n.jpg

[Mike]

Flocking on engine parts & vehicle exterior.....

Has the scene just gone stupid or something??!!

[NADUK]

some nice pics buddy seen wheels n rockers done years ago

They are old pics :d


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UabqHy37w&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That's me ;)


I did see them but the wheels look.like they have only just been done I want to know it will hold up to weather abuse for years not weeks matey

Did I not mention I have done 17k miles on them. If you want to pop down and look at my arch liners feel free, put 27k miles through those.


Flocking on engine parts & vehicle exterior.....

Has the scene just gone stupid or something??!!

I could have sworn I said why I had done it, product/durability testing, something about 99% of companies never bother doing.

Of course, if you would rather just go to any company that has a machine feel free, I back all my work up with thorough testing.

Edit to add: I have been on here about 10years as Nad, but couldn't resurect my old account hence my lack of posts!

[Mike]

I could have sworn I said why I had done it, product/durability testing, something about 99% of companies never bother doing.

Of course, if you would rather just go to any company that has a machine feel free, I back all my work up with thorough testing.

Edit to add: I have been on here about 10years as Nad, but couldn't resurect my old account hence my lack of posts!

I always use Clever Flockers. If he's good enough to supply at lot of motorsport prep business there parts then he's good enough for me lol