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GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 09:45 PM
I went to go see an s1 rst today, fella was asking for around 6k so was expecting something in fairly good condition. To my supprise the car turned out to be a total pile of **%8. Every single panel on the car needed address, needing a complete respray and on top of all that, when you put your foot down there was absoultely nothing.
I'm actually now beginning to kinda of regret selling my gte, sold to someone now on here.
With all due respect it is the first one i have driven properly, but it sure has put me off buying one for now, hope they are actually not as bad a car as this one.

Luckily not too far a journey, but doesn't it just p%% you off driving back home after seeing a sh*tter, i.e. the seller discribing the car to be something it clearly is not.

ab2cv
28-07-11, 10:06 PM
If it's any consolation, your GTE is in safe hands ;-)

Good luck with the RS Turbo search. I hope you find a seller that shows the same level of honesty and respect that you showed to me.

Alan

Mieran
28-07-11, 10:17 PM
They're all crap lol buy another Nova.

Andy
28-07-11, 10:29 PM
Thats abysmal.
6grand should get you nigh on concourse.
That sounds like a disaster and can understand your fury,but dont let it put you off such a brilliant car.Hold out and you will find a good one,but be prepared for shi7e examples,and beware of ringers again,you want original for that money

GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 11:07 PM
Hi Alan, I've been watching your threads, glad your up to speed with the PNG, i'm sure they'll be as helpful to you as they we're to me.

P.s would be nice to see it with the amber indicators, and as far as i know the holes in the wings should still be there to take the round repeater.

GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 11:09 PM
Some people on the rst forums even went on to say that a standard nova gte has been quicker than a standard rst. I really was not expecting that.

MK999
28-07-11, 11:11 PM
rst was 110 bhp or something as standard, blown at about sod all and weighed far more.

Edit: 132 according to parkers, not sure where I got the 110 figure from before. 0-60 is 6.9 and nova gsi was 7.1 according to a quick google around.

Andy
28-07-11, 11:15 PM
Some people on the rst forums even went on to say that a standard nova gte has been quicker than a standard rst. I really was not expecting that.
Thats fukkin bollox.
Utter bullsh1t

davidfox280585
28-07-11, 11:18 PM
should be a good few for that money,the one on ebay with the rs7 wheels on non custom looks a gem to be fair

davidfox280585
28-07-11, 11:25 PM
heres some of my build to cheer you up and keep you motivated,my paintjob isnt perfect but i dont claim it to be as my standards arent that high lol,though as long as it looks clean and tidy that will do me,i have mates with ocd perfection and it would drive me crazy everytime you get a scratch or blemish etc etc
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/escorts/28072011420.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/escorts/26072011411.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/escorts/27072011414.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/escorts/27072011416.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/escorts/27072011418.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/escorts/27072011419.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/escorts/28072011421.jpg

turbojolt
28-07-11, 11:27 PM
i preffer the looks of the series 2 rst but thats just me 6k should buy you a stunning example mate

GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 11:29 PM
Statically the 0-60 on an s1 rst is about 7.9 whilst the gte is 9.1 acc to parkers.

Yeah that one on the 17's looks tasty but so will the price, im looking at 5/5k tops

GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 11:33 PM
i preffer the looks of the series 2 rst but thats just me 6k should buy you a stunning example mate

This guy must have been deluded pricing it at what it was

Andy
28-07-11, 11:34 PM
statistically mk999 and all the other people who posted a gte novver is faster are talking complete and utter litter an s1 rs turbo is 132 bhp

GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 11:34 PM
Yeah nice, would be good to see it finished davidfox------

Edd
28-07-11, 11:37 PM
That seller sounds like a complete idiot tbh, bit like most of the dreamers tying to sell nova rottters on the bay for stupid £££ :roll:

Myself I can't see why you'd want a RST when you had a awesome GTE

I appreciate there nice old Fords, mates who had them in the past seem to have had lots of trouble with them tho

Edd
28-07-11, 11:39 PM
statistically mk999 and all the other people who posted a gte novver is faster are talking complete and utter litter an s1 rs turbo is 132 bhp

lol

Very true, mates standard RST used to absolutely blow my GTE away, wouldn't even come close

Andy
28-07-11, 11:40 PM
Myself I can't see why you'd want a RST when you had a awesome GTE

Oh where do i start LOL
Lets just end it with.........a Ford RS will ALWAYS and FOREVER be worth MORE than ANY Vauxhall ever made.

davidfox280585
28-07-11, 11:51 PM
Yeah nice, would be good to see it finished davidfox------
a few weeks i reckon it should be done,though its modded but standardish looks exterior including spot lamps, only exterior mods are subtle rear lights,exhaust and 17 inch softspokes for her,it is a 1.8zvh efi ofab approx 230bhp at the wheels and a genuine 3 owner shell with 63k on,
ive owned it 3 year st170 brakes upfront with custom braided hoses and saff cos rear discs:p:thumb:

GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 11:53 PM
That seller sounds like a complete idiot tbh, bit like most of the dreamers tying to sell nova rottters on the bay for stupid £££ :roll:

Myself I can't see why you'd want a RST when you had a awesome GTE

I appreciate there nice old Fords, mates who had them in the past seem to have had lots of trouble with them tho

Don't, seeing it on steelies with the wheel trims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GTE TURBZ
28-07-11, 11:56 PM
a few weeks i reckon it should be done,though its modded but standardish looks exterior including spot lamps, only exterior mods are subtle rear lights,exhaust and 17 inch softspokes for her,it is a 1.8zvh efi ofab approx 230bhp at the wheels and a genuine 3 owner shell with 63k on,
ive owned it 3 year st170 brakes upfront with custom braided hoses and saff cos rear discs:p:thumb:

You sound like a man in the know, there's a guy near me wanting 3k for one which was way better than the one i saw today running a 1.8 zvh at around 190hp, had a respray but not a great job, i'm now feeling temped.

Edd
29-07-11, 12:00 AM
Oh where do i start LOL
Lets just end it with.........a Ford RS will ALWAYS and FOREVER be worth MORE than ANY Vauxhall ever made.

All down to personal opinions tho mate

I think most Ford stuff, escorts, fiesta RST's etc are complete tat, but I know a good quality build when I see one so appreciate them for what they are

Fords will always demand higher prices in general as there's more £££ in that scene than Vauxhall stuff

davidfox280585
29-07-11, 12:03 AM
You sound like a man in the know, there's a guy near me wanting 3k for one which was way better than the one i saw today running a 1.8 zvh at around 190hp, had a respray but not a great job, i'm now feeling temped.
3k id buy at that but buy on body condition a standard rst isnt that quick but my modded series 2 running 210bhp at the wheels use to nail most imprezas for fun id be more standard looks and modded underneth,i like the cult classic looks of the rst thats why i opted for original spots and amber indicators just with me having plenty of poke i needed a good brake upgrade! hence the 17 inch wheels,though i chose some which would suit it and look period at the same time

GTE TURBZ
29-07-11, 12:03 AM
lol

Very true, mates standard RST used to absolutely blow my GTE away, wouldn't even come close

was it an S1 or 2

davidfox280585
29-07-11, 12:06 AM
was it an S1 or 2
series 1 should in theory beat a s2 as the gearbox ratios were biased for motorsport use,the s2 is a toned down s1,
rumour has it on the production line the series 2 was nicknamed as xr3i turbo due to being lame compared to the s1,even the gear ratios were altered for better motorway cruising, the series 1 runs a really good front arb setup all adjustable while the series 2 runs same as a xr3i!

Andy
29-07-11, 12:08 AM
All down to personal opinions tho mate

I think most Ford stuff, escorts, fiesta RST's etc are complete tat, but I know a good quality build when I see one so appreciate them for what they are

Fords will always demand higher prices in general as there's more £££ in that scene than Vauxhall stuff
Well not really,sales figures/parts are higher thus more demand really......
Theyre no more tat than a rusty nova really but i see what you mean lol
And why do you think they command more money?????
This isnt an insulting/tearing a strip off post just a general conversation before anyone pipes up

Edd
29-07-11, 12:16 AM
Well theyre on par build quality wise so the price difference can't be that lol

I think that there's a larger following with Fords tbh as well

turbojolt
29-07-11, 10:10 AM
more ford fans due to wining more motorsport events maybe

Alex J
29-07-11, 10:23 AM
id rather have a mint escort s1 than my nova, but cannot afford one these days, i have owned both! s1 was better than any gte.

novaa
29-07-11, 05:30 PM
In Ireland people will pay up 10k for a toyota corrolla coupe you couldnt give rst away. Ford has a big following in england and any way escort would be in the same class as a astra. nova and xr2 would be in the same class. Dont buy a escort rst buy fiesta rst

simonm
29-07-11, 07:01 PM
Don't buy either if your willing to buy a 6k rst put it towards something better ya buy a good Evo 7 for that sort of money and there reliable and fast as fcuk just my opinion but the rst is a cool car mate had one years ago back in college days and was runnin about 230 bhp but was like driving a bowl of jelly it was so woolie on handling

MK999
29-07-11, 07:49 PM
statistically mk999 and all the other people who posted a gte novver is faster are talking complete and utter litter an s1 rs turbo is 132 bhp

See edit :)

tony k
29-07-11, 09:23 PM
I can believe you a pead off mate,I would be,as said for wound that money you will get a minter,I paid between 5 and 6 for mine,that was years ago,when looking over the car check around the front strut tops,even underneath as they are prone to crack,few of my mates s1 done it,if I got another one I would deffo put a cossie engine in this time,but that's me,good luck on the search mate,just take your time,there's good ones out there

davidfox280585
30-07-11, 12:16 AM
id choose a s1 over a evo 7 anyday,you will get miles more attention in a series 1 anyway, evo 7 is big yawn factor there too common now along with te subaru following anyway a s1 will hold its money while a evo will depreciate,
if i had to choose a escos or evo 7/8 id take the escos due to exclusivity and the escos will only go up in value, just my opinion

Mieran
30-07-11, 12:38 AM
Evos are rare too, hardly see any. And its a better/more advanced car = fact.

brainsnova
30-07-11, 01:50 AM
Mk1 or mk2 escort ftw out of fords

davidfox280585
30-07-11, 02:47 AM
Evos are rare too, hardly see any. And its a better/more advanced car = fact.
yes i agree but dearer to fix and depends what your after,i hate modern cars there not built like they used to be,far too electronically advanced for my liking

davidfox280585
30-07-11, 04:16 AM
nice *****!

mk1nova_rich
30-07-11, 08:20 AM
Series 1 RST is a car I will own one day! Its not all about the power FFS (**** off 'buy a Subaru/Evo etc') they are just awesome cars and the classic looks and motorsport heritage make them so special :d

Alex J
30-07-11, 09:01 AM
old cars rule, new cars are ****. the end.

Mike
30-07-11, 09:26 AM
if i had to choose a escos or evo 7/8 id take the escos due to exclusivity and the escos will only go up in value, just my opinion

Amen to that!

GTE TURBZ
30-07-11, 10:41 AM
Series 1 RST is a car I will own one day! Its not all about the power FFS (**** off 'buy a Subaru/Evo etc') they are just awesome cars and the classic looks and motorsport heritage make them so special :d

Exactly my point, i'm not too bothered about speed these day, after all i had a nova gte for 5 years, it was all about condition and looks, same thing i wanna do with the s1, but after having a nova gte 1.6 turbo, though the S1 being a blower would be some fun as standard.

But im hoping it was just that one and they're all not that laim.

GTE TURBZ
30-07-11, 10:45 AM
As far as the Evo and modern cars go, Ive got a mk4 golf anni 150 pd as my daily, which has more than enough power being a diesel, got tonnes of torque and grin factor ;-) and looks.

Ben
03-08-11, 08:21 PM
I sold this one a few years ago for £3500 and have to say i too was utterly disapointed after buying it, was like a slug and a mare to drive!

Clicky (http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y228/lurk75/S1%20RST/)

GTE TURBZ
15-05-12, 12:02 AM
Hey its been awhile since been on here and yes replying to an old thread but justbto conclude
I eventually got a restored s1 and power wise it wad alit better than the other dissapointmrnt.
Definately more desirable and the sound is just awesome. I will put picks up soon. Ciao

Royston
15-05-12, 07:15 AM
Please you found what you were after, my friend bought this last week, there are good cars about but take some finding sometimes;).

Some members won't know what it is, or were maybe even born when it was madelol


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/1297cc/IMG-20120512-00082.jpg

Spudly
15-05-12, 08:06 AM
I'd guess at a fiesta super sport but I'm probably wrong as I'm sure it had a big 'S' in the stripe near the back of the quarter, and it's def not an XR2, but it looks nice though:d

Andy
15-05-12, 08:32 AM
quite right johnathan lol

pie
15-05-12, 08:36 AM
fiesta looks sweeet

funny enough i came across one on ebay last night lol

Ben
15-05-12, 10:30 AM
That fiesta is awesome

Royston
15-05-12, 10:34 AM
You are correct Spud, X plate Fiesta Supersport 1.3, forerunner to the XR2, currently sat in the shed!

mk1nova_rich
15-05-12, 12:50 PM
Is it only the Supersport that had the spare wheel well bulge in the rear panel?

Original Supersports in good nick are rare as rocking horse ****, brilliant little cars

peester
15-05-12, 06:14 PM
rst was 110 bhp or something as standard, blown at about sod all and weighed far more.

Edit: 132 according to parkers, not sure where I got the 110 figure from before. 0-60 is 6.9 and nova gsi was 7.1 according to a quick google around.

aye, RST's were 130bhp and obviously more torque than a n/a 1.6 nova, so it'll see any factory nova off no problem - if in healthy condition. Its this thats probably been the cause for confusion ; i bet theyre arent many healthy standard RST's around for a while that are racing nova gte/gsi's on the roads. lol.

*EDIT: forgot to say, those 0-60's figures are well out, for both lol. Its about 9.0 sec for a nova gte/gsi..
Sierra cosworth/Cav, Cali Turbos with 4x4 and 200bhp were doing those 6 secs sorts of times.

Spudly
15-05-12, 06:20 PM
You are correct Spud, X plate Fiesta Supersport 1.3, forerunner to the XR2, currently sat in the shed!




Fook the SD1, come in the fiesta:eek:

Royston
15-05-12, 06:49 PM
Fook the SD1, come in the fiesta:eek:
No chance

V8. All the way

Spudly
15-05-12, 06:56 PM
Damn you, ill HAVE to come for a jolly up to yours at some point then now lol

Mike
15-05-12, 07:59 PM
Oh where do i start LOL
Lets just end it with.........a Ford RS will ALWAYS and FOREVER be worth MORE than ANY Vauxhall ever made.

This

lol lol lol

I supply a guy who breaks RS models for a living, he said to me countless times there tonnes of shÃ*tters out there, finding a proper mint genuine example is getting harder all the time!

MK999
15-05-12, 08:02 PM
That's because he keeps breaking them lol

raf24
15-05-12, 08:15 PM
These are a couple of pics from when my mate was building his supersport,1.8 zetec conversion & converted to rwd,his is also an X reg but a little different lol
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/bigraf24/c6310001.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/bigraf24/1fc3a97d.jpg