Red Top Nova CV's ARRGH!!

[B16_OJB]

Ryt,

last week i did an inner CV joint on the passenger side.

Put another SECOND HAD CV on to replace it.

Did 50 miles or so and the same joint has gone again!

Any ideas?

Bad luck with the second hand part or is there something im missing?

does everyone put a new CV on when theres goes?

I can get a brand new CV joint for £50

Thanks,

Ollie

[GRUNT 16V]

engine must be twisted what mounts are you using ?

[honie5]

Get brand new then if it goes after a few miles can get them to replace it will save you money in the long run!

[Pancho]

agree with grunt, the motor is twisted.

[Mazz]

Slap some pics up of the engine bay. Is it sitting square and level?

[B16_OJB]

yeah, i will get some when i get home later lads!

its done a good 500 miles since its been finnished!

Maybe theres a problems with the engine mounts then!?

[MK999]

Engine will not be more wonky that the driveshaft angles so I doubt it's that, CV's are consumable/wearing items on a car, replace with new.

[B16_OJB]

[QUOTE=MK999;1890414]Engine will not be more wonky that the driveshaft angles so I doubt it's thatQUOTE]

but if there running slightly of centre all the time so to speak it would give em abit of extra strain.

I did notice more vibration than normal a few miles before!!!!!

[MK999]

They are running slightly off centre all the time, wonky engine or not, if they weren't we wouldn't need CV's in the first place

[B16_OJB]

They are running slightly off centre all the time, wonky engine or not, if they weren't we wouldn't need CV's in the first place

always 1! lol

yeah i know that mate, i was meaning if the engine mount has dropped/broken or what ever its alot of extra strain on it at 7,000rpm HAHAHAHA

[Dar]

Why laugh at someone (MK999) who is trying to help you out. He does have a perfectly valid point.
If an engine mount was broken and your driving it hard you wouldn't have to check....you would know.

However if something is more than slightly out and you have excessive drive shaft angles you will break CVs all the time. So well worth checking that out.

[B16_OJB]

Why laugh at someone (MK999) who is trying to help you out. He does have a perfectly valid point.
If an engine mount was broken and your driving it hard you wouldn't have to check....you would know.

However if something is more than slightly out and you have excessive drive shaft angles you will break CVs all the time. So well worth checking that out.

i no that and all help is gladly recieved!

i was laughing because i know there run off centre but i didnt mean it like that!

got some exciting pics to post later lol cos ive now sorted it!

[B16_OJB]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011424.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011425.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011426.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011427.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011428.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011429.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011430.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/NOVA/28062011433.jpg

[B16_OJB]

anyone spot the problem??

HHHmmmm LOL's!

Need to get some lock tight today me thinks!

[Wazza024]

Mine done the inner cv joint on passenger side on a turbo but i bought a brand new 1 for £35 and never come off since then or had any problems. The engine dont look straight in the picture but im guessing its because you have the bolts out? But id line the engine all up then try a new cv joint

[B16_OJB]

yeah mate.....

both bolts have come out lol

thats whats caused it!

where you get a new CV from for £35?

[_Jake]

How would you not notice that driving along!?

[B16_OJB]

How would you not notice that driving along!?

it vibrates like fooook mate lol

[Wazza024]

yeah mate.....

both bolts have come out lol

thats whats caused it!

where you get a new CV from for £35?

Ebay i think there on there i use the uprated shafts though dont know if your using the lmf shafts or different?

[B16_OJB]

just normal cavvy F20 ones! they not strong enough?

[MK999]

However if something is more than slightly out and you have excessive drive shaft angles you will break CVs all the time. So well worth checking that out.

Excessive driveshaft angle would have to be mental though, the standard nova angles are like 20 degrees lol Even with the engine mount fail above the CV dying in such a ridiculously short time would be due in the majority to buying a used/worn consumable part imo, although most likely accelerated by an increased driveshaft angle.

[Mike]

Awesomeness.

[B16_OJB]

all fixed...see how long it last!! AARRHHHH lol

[mk1nova_rich]

In fairness MK, that will have killed a brand new CV in a fairly short time too! But I have to ask...how the feck did you not notice that when driving hard?!

[B16_OJB]

ITS HAPPENED FOR THE THIRD TIME NOW!!

i bought the car half converted.

i have noticed that the anti-roll bar lowering blocks havnt been fitted and the lug on the gear box and the bottom pulley has been touching the ARB's. The inner CV usually breaks when giving it some in 1st then putting it into second with the gas on....

Maybe its the pulley hitting the ARB and causing it to break!

Sound likely?

this time im puttin a new CV joint on and fiting some ARB lowering blocks

[MK1_Ben]

The inner CV usually breaks when giving it some in 1st then putting it into second with the gas on....

powerrrrshifftttttt!

That's half your problem, hoofing an XE from first to second will cause alot of strain on them, it's alot of power and your wheels are most likely spinning all over the shop, couple that with banging it into the next gear at load and you're inviting them to break.

[Stuart]

I'm very sure the CV's arent spinning at 7K ;)

[B16_OJB]

the missing ARB blocks the problem?

[nova_saloon]

not having lowering blocks wont be helping, you need them lowering blocks or you take the roll bar off its self! but ive used nova shafts on my XE now for 2 and a bit years, never had a problem, and i have driven it hard, but maybe not as hard as you, its a car after all and death comes quick from ragging the goonies out of it. but i know this sounds stupid and you've sorted everything and it still does it but could you be lucky and you have a LSD fitted and nobody knew, cause that will for sure break the CV joint, and be dam lucky at the same time to had. get some uprated ones, when mine give up if they do im getting uprated, proberbly worth it!

[Damo]

the missing ARB blocks the problem?

Wouldnt have thought so mate thats just to stop the frontpipe hitting the arb.

[Lewis.]

I'm very sure the CV's arent spinning at 7K ;)


well 4th gear is straight through, so the wheels will be turning at engine speed in 4th and faster in 5th :p

[Stuart]

well 4th gear is straight through, so the wheels will be turning at engine speed in 4th and faster in 5th :p



Unless you have a 1<:1 FD then still no :p
Most vaux FD's are around 4:1 so you are looking at say 2K if you rev to 8K in 4th (which is still not 1:1 but hey)

[Riggy]

what make joints are you using ?

i tend to try and get shaft tec ones (pj16) although i have done 3 joints over 3 years , but anyone that knows how i drive the nova would be shocked that i havent broke more

[B16_OJB]

ive been told i should have a gear box mouting spacer plate (10mm) i havent got one fitted!!

COULD THIS BE THE PROBLEM?

http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!BbCk)pwBGk~$(KGrHqQH-CYEqvCGYuhlBKuJVE5Cfg~~_35.JPG

do i need one of these or some 10mm washers?

[B16_OJB]

i know a while ago i put a post on regarding hard to get gears. was a right bugger and 2nd still isnt maybe 100%.

Maybe this could be the problem!!

[B16_OJB]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?174678-C20xe-f20-nova-rear-engine-mount-spacer-plate.&p=1898641#post1898641

need a spacer plate!

[pikey1986]

pm david dixon, he does these and you will have them in no time

[B16_OJB]

could this be the problem?

[B16_OJB]

pm david dixon, he does these and you will have them in no time

that the guys user name?

[pikey1986]

yes mate

[B16_OJB]

sorted thanks!

if i get one reckon it will be ok then?

obviously all the kits have them in so must be needed!

[pikey1986]

yeah it should be, without it your engine will sit slightly wonky

[B16_OJB]

right...i think it does slightly!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/blackcorsasri/06062011359.jpg

[Riggy]

Yes deffo the prob , engine is out there mate

[B16_OJB]

http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!BbCk)pwBGk~$(KGrHqQH-CYEqvCGYuhlBKuJVE5Cfg~~_35.JPG

http://i.ebayimg.com/10/!By!dPFg!Wk~$(KGrHqF,!hsEw5B7hiuuBMP4zNePDg~~_12.J PG

these mounts/spacers both do the same thing for the same type out mount?

which is the better one?

thanks!

[B16_OJB]

anyone got a picture of there valver engine bay at about the same angle?

[Alex J]

got this for you, £12 delivered ..
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy103/alex_maris/mtec001.jpg

[B16_OJB]

PM'd

[B16_OJB]

http://www.cruisewestcumbria.info/cossiematt/gte/driveshaft.JPG

see the pic....

i take it the spacer goes inbetween the mount and the gearbox?

(the otherside shown in the pic)

[Alex J]

that be the one mate, pm sent, or text me on the number, 07914076504, alex.

[Riggy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/riggy4/3997907941_95de18ef27_o.jpg

[Nobby]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/76161_10150293374240431_665680430_15294911_1998288 _n.jpg

yup whole engine will be on this piss and putting strain on your nsf inner cv