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N0V4 JACK16
14-05-11, 08:14 PM
hi guys, i'm planning on wrapping my sportex 4-2-1 manifold, but can anyone tell me if i have to coat the manifold with anything before i wrap it? or can i just apply the heat wrap straight on? cheers.

Dayle_
14-05-11, 08:21 PM
If its mild steel and your everyday car mate I wouldn't bother as it tends to crack the welds on the manifold as they get too hot.

N0V4 JACK16
14-05-11, 08:25 PM
yeah its my daily run about. just trying to tidy the look of my engine really. i'll probably just paint it with heat proof paint then, thanks very much.

bmw156
14-05-11, 08:28 PM
If its mild steel and your everyday car mate I wouldn't bother as it tends to crack the welds on the manifold as they get too hot.

really?

so pooting around town, will make it hotter then thrashing it around a track of rally stage?

i wrapped mine on the bare metal :)

Stuart
14-05-11, 08:35 PM
If its mild steel and your everyday car mate I wouldn't bother as it tends to crack the welds on the manifold as they get too hot.


imho bollocks....
Yes the welds cracked on one manifold I know about BUT it had a very very very very hard life for 6 years lol

N0V4 JACK16
14-05-11, 08:38 PM
should i go for it then or just get some heat proof paint wacked on?

Stuart
14-05-11, 08:41 PM
the paint will come off in minutes, just wrap it

N0V4 JACK16
14-05-11, 08:43 PM
ok, just straight on?

Dayle_
14-05-11, 08:46 PM
Well, it did on our Fiesta we used to rally.

We had a 4-2-1 manifold (Ashley which to be fair are the same quality as Sportex) it caused the welds to crack on the reducers as I can only put it down to heat stress and holding in moisture if it gets wet.

Anyway if you must, wrap it then buy the spray stuff its silicone based and helps seal the wrap.

Don't worry if it smokes like chuff too when you start it up.

Adam
14-05-11, 08:56 PM
ANY manifold paint burns off within 10minutes, so id go with wrapping it.

N0V4 JACK16
14-05-11, 09:09 PM
even though my motors only a 1.3 8v?

Timmy
14-05-11, 09:29 PM
yeah it will just burn off

Lewis.
14-05-11, 09:47 PM
it will be fine, but it looks a bit tatty after a while. buy the thinner, stronger wrapping mate, the thick stuff is like a woolley jumper and falls apart within a week.

make sure you get enough too, a 4-2-1 will need between 100 and 125 feet ime :thumb:

NOVA saloon
14-05-11, 09:54 PM
I soaked mine in water then wrapped up real nice and tight and still looks bob on.

bmw156
14-05-11, 09:56 PM
when i done mine, i hardly used any, i think i bought a 30m and i have LOADS left. enough to do another manifold easily.

wana buy it off me lol. - £15

also soaked it in water. and it smoked like mentioned lol.

Stuart
14-05-11, 10:27 PM
when i done mine, i hardly used any, i think i bought a 30m and i have LOADS left. enough to do another manifold easily.

wana buy it off me lol. - £15

also soaked it in water. and it smoked like mentioned lol.


It was either 8foot wide or you wrapped it the mong way lol

I saw pics a few years back where someone managed to wrap the ENTIRE exhaust with 100foot of wrap because they thought you kept it flat and next to the previous piece rather than overlapping by 50%

bmw156
15-05-11, 08:33 AM
is this the mong way,

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c325/bmw156/141ef878.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c325/bmw156/8e02810a.jpg

if so, i couldnt get it in the gaps, and i didnt bother going any lower as my exhaust scrapes!

Mike
15-05-11, 09:21 AM
We had a 4-2-1 manifold (Ashley which to be fair are the same quality as Sportex)

Ashley exhausts even recommend NOT to wrap there manifolds.

Dayle_
15-05-11, 10:22 AM
I know we did our rally car that used to get used 8 times a year maybe so didn't think it would be too bad. Think it cracked on the 6th event. Fair enough its different to road car but at the time it was only a bog standard CVH competing on a single stage rally 45 miles max with hour brake or something daft between stages.

If you look about any Mild steel manifold manufacture will recommend not to wrap as it will void the warranty.

Any ways it was only my 2 p's worth. :thumb:

Mike
15-05-11, 10:30 AM
Personally, for sake of it, and a proper pukka finish Id get it thermal coated.

AlexW
15-05-11, 10:52 AM
BBQ paint don't burn off, Well it hasn't yet.