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I am so sick of these slow moving, sh!t dropping (yeah yeah it's biodegradable - it still makes a mess!) pikey owned parasites on the roads!
Why do they not need to pay road tax, display I.D, have insurance or conform to ANY safety standards etc etc??
Five of the ba$tards just turned a ten minute journey into a 40 minute one for me and about 30 other cars FFS. It's an all too common sight on the roads and I am sick to death of them. Free loaders!
They are always piloted by women and girls rougher than the Usain Bolts feet or blokes and lads hanging off every part of the thing with their greasy rat tail haircuts that glare at you when you pass (wide and as quietly as possible) as if you do not have a right to use the roads!
The most annoying them though is if I was to have an accident with one it will always be classed as my fault!
Yeah it's my fault I rounded a 60 mph bend at 40 and there was some piece of scrap metal with bald tyres 6 up with the regions finest being pulled by some old nag not even good enough for the knackers yard directly in my path isn't it?!
I know that's what happens because some poor bloke ran into the back of one joining a slip road to a 70 mph dual carriageway a few years ago. Killed the gyppo on it and got done for death by dangerous driving!
This antiquated form of transport has had it's day - that's why when the Vaux brewery was still open even they used wagons locally - it has no place on our roads IMO. Horses alone can be annoying, but at least they don't take up the full width of the road.
So why don't they have to conform to any safety standards at the very least? One of the sets of tyres I seen wouldn’t even be used to drift on!
IMO things need to change, they shouldn't even be given the option to pay their way on the roads. They just hold up modern traffic something rotten.
Anyone else have to deal with these mouth breathers (on an increasingly often) basis?
I simply sound the horn while in my hgv to let them know a large vehicle is approching lol f**k them, sick of their stuck up attitude,
down here they are everywhere !!!!!!
if they aint dropping crap there in fields chasing foxes, yes i know its banned but it still happens like there's no law change here
what type of fine would you get if your dropped a stinking pile of crap on the road ???!!!!!!!
FOOKS ME RIGHT OFF !!! the most annoying thing about them is when you slow down to pass them the riders now think its there right to expect you to come to a complete standstill FFS
Soon i aint going to bother slowing down i think
MattBrown
03-05-11, 04:21 PM
Ohh the joys of the old 1.0, rev, key bang lol
:d
If they are taking the piss and I'm not in my local area I let them know the score. I don't have an HGV or it's horn at my disposal though! lol
You're right about the attitude, I mean even when they're just on the horses they are w4nkers. Compare this with the riding school and farm that are nearby and you instantly know which lot are out. That fcuking pikey wedding programme seems to have seriously swelled the numbers around here. That's what I'm blaming anyway.
Wish Brussles forces some laws onto the scum and their death traps! Not like the Police would have the Spanish nuts to enforce them though! :roll: lol
down here they are everywhere !!!!!!
if they aint dropping crap there in fields chasing foxes, yes i know its banned but it still happens like there's no law change here
what type of fine would you get if your dropped a stinking pile of crap on the road ???!!!!!!!
FOOKS ME RIGHT OFF !!! the most annoying thing about them is when you slow down to pass them the riders now think its there right to expect you to come to a complete standstill FFS
Soon i aint going to bother slowing down i think
Like when you are approaching them from the other direction and you slow/move over as courtesy and the daft old horse (no, the one pulling the death) trap sh!ts itself then you get them all glaring! lol Fcuk am I stopping completely for you!
On the subject of not slowing down, I was thinking I would have loved to have been in the Volvo and once in front just lit the tyres right up and choked the fcukers! lol
i once complain to the local copper about it he told me, pedestrians have the first right of way, then horses, then cars !!!!!
i once complain to the local copper about it he told me, pedestrians have the first right of way, then horses, then cars !!!!!
Really?! It's out of date legislation like this that needs to be changed! Take my parents house, they live at the top of the street and the side gate gives access to everyone elses front garden, rarely used by anyone except us. However, the fcuker is a public bridleway! Thankfully none of the knobs have attempted to use it, as there is a (mostly locked) gate on every garden and I think you would stuggle getting a hoss down there! lol
They should all have to wear nappies too! Despite people claiming it is natural and harmless etc, the fact remains; sh!t makes a mess. :roll: lol
Edd, you are complaining about horses, limp is on about gyppos on horse & carts... its a whole different hazard.
Hoochie
03-05-11, 04:37 PM
Get in front of them and slow down to 5 mph....see how they fooking like it......
The other day i saw a skanky tramp on her horse, no safety gear on,(shorts and t-shirt) fag in one hand and speaking on her mobile phone, horse was on the path and shat everywhere as it was walking.
Edit to add....I agree with the carts situation too, they are a menace on the road, anyone who uses the public road should contribute something, not just motor vehicles.
Really?! It's out of date legislation like this that needs to be changed!
It's quite in date really, you are looking at an order of most to least vulnerable and it does make a lot of sense.
I now dont slow down for them,fukkin sick of it.Absolutely no need on this planet whatsoever for them to be on roads or paths round here,theres an equestrian centre less than 5mins from my house,theres disused farm roads,oh and about 1000sq km of yorkshires finest countryside to use!!!
Edd, you are complaining about horses, limp is on about gyppos on horse & carts... its a whole different hazard.
lol we have a different bread down here, city folk who have stables down here, come visit get the horse and cart out, put the family in the seats in the back and think its ok to go up and down the A39 :eek: regularly and think its fine, and will hurl abuse if you question them :roll:
it amusing to see, even more when its summer and the traffic is in full flow to Minehead lol
Ohh the joys of the old 1.0, rev, key bang lol
Andd Poopdapoppopbrummmm PoP
One of my favourite bank holiday/summer pastimes was to sit in my ex's dad's fields and watch the cityfolk (arrrr lol) pile off the M5 to avoid the caravan tailbacks, only to come ar$e-to-face with a horse doing 5mph and taking up the entire road. Thus making their journey even longer than if they stayed on the mobile car park that is the M5.
Anyways. Fcuk your Honda Civic lol
well if you think horse riders are bad.... what about horsebox drivers?? it is a scientifically proven fact that perfectly sane, good drivers, when a horse trailer is attached to their tow car, lose all ability to steer in a straight line, the use of their mirrors & indicators and also can't reverse.... my nephew & his mates were on car park duty at the local country show & for a laff got all the horse boxes to park nose first against a hedge......
TeddyThom
03-05-11, 05:14 PM
Anyways. Fcuk your Honda Civic lol
Been waiting for that since the start of this thread. lol
Luckily enough I only have to deal with the occasional horse round my way, and they are pretty laid back as long as you don't take the mickey, they respect you and you respect them etc etc
claire6069
03-05-11, 05:28 PM
personally i think your attitude towards this is a bit wrong, you seem to forget that before cars were invented, horses were the only means of transport, your older relatives would have alot more respect for them than what you obviously do.
i think you will find as well that its in the law that horses have the right of way on the roads simply because they were here first.
as for sh!tting everywhere, what do you expect us to do?? poop a scoop it up in a doggy bag??
why does everyone get up in arms about horses not paying road tax - what about push bikes?? and those stupid electric wheelchairs that oap's ride down the middle of the road in??
as for riding in the countryside, its not always accessible, 90% of the bridlepaths round here require us to cross an A road/bypass at some point so if anything, it should be us horse riders pee'd off with the fact that cars cut through our land and mess up our riding!!
claire bear... the OP is on about pikeys with a pony & trap... and a lot of them are truly dangerous on the rd. most decent riders of horses are actually good road users, and then there are some who the instant a vehicle enters the parish, pull like hell on the reins, then start waving their arms about, then when the horse is spooked, kick several shades out of it to calm it down...etc.... or in other words, can't actually control a horse on the road...
a good few years back a local pompous equestrian tried to get me to slow my wagon down, and i was only doing 2mph, so as per his instructions, i popped it out of gear, gave it a rev & slipped into the next one down... he held on for 3 fields, but the 4th hedge got him.....
claire6069
03-05-11, 05:40 PM
claire bear... the OP is on about pikeys with a pony & trap... and a lot of them are truly dangerous on the rd. most decent riders of horses are actually good road users, and then there are some who the instant a vehicle enters the parish, pull like hell on the reins, then start waving their arms about, then when the horse is spooked, kick several shades out of it to calm it down...etc.... or in other words, can't actually control a horse on the road...
a good few years back a local pompous equestrian tried to get me to slow my wagon down, and i was only doing 2mph, so as per his instructions, i popped it out of gear, gave it a rev & slipped into the next one down... he held on for 3 fields, but the 4th hedge got him.....
i know the OP is on about traps, i was replying in general to every comment on here..........
i know you like your horses mowgli so you must have some empathy for us riders!
personally, i do think that the gyppo's with the traps are a pain in the backside and i've always hated how they stake the horses to the side of the road despite it being illegal but i also think its kinda cool that they keep an old tradition going by still using the horses for a purpose!
i try my best to avoid any traffic, i hate it when im on a horse due to an old pony of mine trying to kill me at 14 when he saw a van - and the stable yard he was on was surrounded by plant nurseries lol plus comments like those made earlier about using the horn etc are another reason i like to avoid it - its people like this that dont understand what the consequences of their actions could be!
i think you will find as well that its in the law that horses have the right of way on the roads simply because they were here first.
Thats like saying,heroin is better as it was invented before ecstasy lol
as for sh!tting everywhere, what do you expect us to do?? poop a scoop it up in a doggy bag??
No a shovel and a rubble bag would suffice;) That way,our streets and paths arent covered in sh1t and you dont have dog owners thinking its ok cos horses get away with it.....
why does everyone get up in arms about horses not paying road tax - what about push bikes?? and those stupid electric wheelchairs that oap's ride down the middle of the road in??
Because their a real risk,moreso than a push bike,a push bike wont kill you if it falls on you,and you can control it better.
as for riding in the countryside, its not always accessible, 90% of the bridlepaths round here require us to cross an A road/bypass at some point so if anything, it should be us horse riders pee'd off with the fact that cars cut through our land and mess up our riding!!
If it was accessible "years ago when they were here 1st" then it most certainly still is,definately is round here,the way i see it,is if you can get a land rover on there,you should have neigh (lol) bother on a horse
The debate is on lol
claire6069
03-05-11, 05:44 PM
lol andy you did make me giggle!!
in all honesty, i do have to agree that a horse shouldnt be ridden down a public footpath, that is wrong, unfortunately though, hopping off everytime they sh!t isnt always an option when theres nothing to stand on to get back on lol
I think what alot of it is in all seriousness is lack of courtesy and common sense by rider or the diddycoys in the traps.
Just like cars though,it only takes 1 retard to cause problems,a bit of savvy and they would be ok.Its the ones who are drinking beer on them and acting like they own the road etc that annoy me
Angus Closier
03-05-11, 05:50 PM
Meh I hate gypos but am a rider myself, would hate to think people wouldnt have consideration for the horse if not the rider.....I slow down for them and most people should. I dont like any sort of people getting in the way on the road that doesnt pay road tax. Push bikes etc etc as well as horses. But Its not all people that do that, just a few Kn*bs let it down for others.
Angus Closier
03-05-11, 05:50 PM
I think what alot of it is in all seriousness is lack of courtesy and common sense by rider or the diddycoys in the traps.
Just like cars though,it only takes 1 retard to cause problems,a bit of savvy and they would be ok.Its the ones who are drinking beer on them and acting like they own the road etc that annoy me
This is unaceptable, If you are in controll of anything then beer should not be an option.
remember this.... 100 years ago, the horse was a working creature. they were a form of mass transportation. the vast majority lived in stabling in towns & cities, and worked there till they were dead or infirm, then became dogmeat. the ones in the country were worked much harder. now 95% or more of horses are playthings. they are ridden by amateurs who maybe put in 2hrs a week in the saddle, if the weather is nice. to be honest, a modern leisure lifestyle is almost cruel to the horse. they suffer from boredom big time.
horse racing is not boring!?
claire6069
03-05-11, 05:58 PM
very true mowgli and well said........
i think with anything nowadays its always a minority that ruin it for the majority.......i know horses and cars are never a good mix lol
dont even get me started on horse racing andy lol i hate it with a passion!
I hate it with a passion also,when mine lose lol
I hate it with a passion also,when mine lose lol
Lmfao lol
why does everyone get up in arms about horses not paying road tax - what about push bikes??
Last time I rode my bike I didn't hold up a line of traffic and pause to have a dump in the middle of the road.
Last time I rode my bike I didn't hold up a line of traffic and pause to have a dump in the middle of the road.
F lol lol lol
jack, did you deliberately not mention all the other times you rode your bike...?
24sevenslacker
03-05-11, 08:17 PM
the "Rag n bone" men have been round here loads recently, i think last week they was down my street at leat 5 times, how much ****ing scrap do they think you have in your kitchen. iv seen a few been driven by kids who look too young to even ride a pushbike on the road. i offered one of them two steelies with the tyres on, and he refused because he had to get the tyres off and it costs 2 quid each. they dont mind a bit of manual labour when they are breaking into substations and nicking all the copper, ****s me off big time
Don't seem to get many horses around here, Get a few obv, One of which had a ****ing spaz as i creept past in the corsa, Perhaps it is too loud.
Its the same with any though, Horses, Stupid pedistrians, cyclists and animals, will always be a pain in the ****, and theres nowt you can do but stand on the airhorn for about 3miles.
This is of course forgetting the simply stupid car drivers, Having been pulled out on today I nearly planted the van into the back of the stupid bints car, Just as well I wasn't speeding for a change.
MattBrown
03-05-11, 11:52 PM
Meh.
I'm in controll of my car, your riding some retarded animal.
Should be made to be taxed and definately insured!
If one hit one of my cars/bikes, I'd sue the gimp for as much as I can.
Bloody annoying things:)
NOVA saloon
04-05-11, 12:26 AM
I have loads of horses around here 6 traveler sites within 4 miles. So it's always fun. But push bikes OH MY GOD making my palms sweaty. I am scared that 1 I will take 1's head off and brake my wing mirror. And that's an unnecessary 40 quid I have to spend on my transit pick up. Lol.
Hoochie
04-05-11, 08:33 AM
Last time I rode my bike I didn't hold up a line of traffic and pause to have a dump in the middle of the road.
LMFAO............:d
Tis true though, why should a horse be allowed to cr@p on the road/footpath and it's an offence if a dog does it??...:confused:
dont think ive ever come across a horse and trap up here but see horses fairly often. always slow down for them or if i meet them on the crosser i'll hit the kill switch until ive driven by them.
theres a couple of roads quite near me that havnt been used in years, they arnt tarred and are basically paths, a bit like what bridleways are like in england i suppose.
only a handful of cars, tractors, 4x4s and enduro bikes use them. sawell as walkers and mountain bikes.
oh and horses. ****ing riders think they own them and would try blocking the lanes either with the horse when you met them or sometimes by laying down logs.
now i know its not big or clever, but when i was younger after gettin a right earfull off one of them for the umpteenth time for doin **** all wrong, i completely lost it and revved the engine up to the red line before screaming away from them
turns out horses dont like this and it went mental, bucking away up in the air throwing the rider off, and running away.
when i think of it now i realise i was a prick but then again i also never got any hassle off them again after that.
Mincyballs
04-05-11, 01:39 PM
Right jumping in to the firing line! I have 6 horses and NO they dont pull traps! all of mine ARE INSURED! one of which is worth more than any of your cars! and the insurance premium is prob higher as well! We dont get taxed cause quite frankly dont need roads and cause no were near as much wear and polution as a car!
As for sueing you would be lucky to prove it in a court especially if your over taking! Horses have more rights than cars!
Meh.
I'm in controll of my car, your riding some retarded animal.
Should be made to be taxed and definately insured!
If one hit one of my cars/bikes, I'd sue the gimp for as much as I can.
Bloody annoying things:)
food for thought.....
there aren't many bad horses, but there are lots of bad riders.
horses shouldnt be allowed anywhere near the roads, yes they may of been here first and been the backbone of transportation at some point 100years ago but times change and there not safe to share the roads with motor vehicles.
as much as the rider is trained and the horse 'domesticated' or what ever it's called, its still a wild (and unpredictable) animal.
and people backfiring/scaring the animals are just as irresponsible as the rider taking the animal on the road
Hoochie
04-05-11, 02:09 PM
We dont get taxed cause quite frankly dont need roads and cause no were near as much wear and polution as a car!
Yes you don't need roads but do use them ...and what about the poo??
As for sueing you would be lucky to prove it in a court especially if your over taking! Horses have more rights than cars!
I think the point being made was all animals can be unpredictable, and if a horse got spooked by something and took off along a public road there is no way of knowing whether it would run into a car etc....
EDIT.....pap...I was too slow with my response and beaten...:0)
MattBrown
04-05-11, 02:11 PM
Yes you don't need roads but do use them ...and what about the poo??
I think the point being made was all animals can be unpredictable, and if a horse got spooked by something and took off along a public road there is no way of knowing whether it would run into a car etc....
Its a clear differance of oppinion.
People with horses like them, people without don't.
I don't think people should be allowed 10 dogs in a council house, but it happens.
Untill people catch up, or the law changes, its going to stay like this unfortunately!
In terms of horse regulations, see here (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069853). Remember the highway code might be presented as a guide, but it is based on law.
As for the who has right of way - horses don't have any more rights than pedestrians (in fact less than pedestrians), cyclists, motorists etc. unless local bylaws say otherwise, in which case signs will be on display where the bylaws are in force.
horses shouldnt be allowed anywhere near the roads, yes they may of been here first and been the backbone of transportation at some point 100years ago but times change and there not safe to share the roads with motor vehicles.
It would be akin to me sailing an 18th century frigate into a busy shipping lane lol
horses shouldnt be allowed anywhere near the roads, yes they may of been here first and been the backbone of transportation at some point 100years ago but times change and there not safe to share the roads with motor vehicles.
as much as the rider is trained and the horse 'domesticated' or what ever it's called, its still a wild (and unpredictable) animal.
and people backfiring/scaring the animals are just as irresponsible as the rider taking the animal on the road
draper, round our way, there are lots of leisure riders, and in one certain bit, lots of pikey trotting racers.... we simply drive and keep looking further up the road & anticipate where they are likely to be. this is simply good road manners.
im used to having to deal with them aswell, we have a riding school and a country park on my doorstep. ive been knocked off my mountain bike by a horse bolting before aswell
the american adventure 'horse stunt display team' used to practice in the surrounding woodland and they were the most jumped up, pompous idiots ive ever met
I have to deal with a fair few horse when driving the tanker down farm lanes, I always hold back and try not to make much noise. They then pull into a side road when they can and wave me by with a smile. I dont see why its so hard for everyone to give each other a bit of respect, Is everyone in such a hurry?
food for thought.....
there aren't many bad horses, but there are lots of bad riders.
That is perhaps the biggest load of bullsh1t you have ever posted....
You wouldnt believe the amount of money me and my dad have lost through horses unseating the rider,or pulling up,or even refusing to race or jump.
Ive also seen then run off for no reason and kick jockeys/trainers etc.
As much of this post is meant jokingly,reading back im making a very valid point,these bastads have the (some of em) countries top trainers,and jockeys,and still play up.
So imagine a rider who's only probably good at drinking and fighting and identifying non-ferrous and ferrous metals taking a horse thats on its last lags into a public street?!
If they can chuck the champion jockey off,then i'll place my house on the fact that not many else can control them in a rage.
riders with viz's hats n stuff, fine ill slow down for pass wide etc, same as bike since im usually peddling around.
those pikey scaffold bars with wheels i dont give a toss about, they should stick to their transit tipper with high sides.
and as for horses ****ting on the road, that does piss me off. not only does it stick like glue to paint, but if your riding a bike its not the best thing to get on your face if its been raining and its oozing down the road.
how would you feel if i decided to take a **** while i was riding down the road?
claire6069
04-05-11, 09:34 PM
That is perhaps the biggest load of bullsh1t you have ever posted....
You wouldnt believe the amount of money me and my dad have lost through horses unseating the rider,or pulling up,or even refusing to race or jump.
Ive also seen then run off for no reason and kick jockeys/trainers etc.
As much of this post is meant jokingly,reading back im making a very valid point,these bastads have the (some of em) countries top trainers,and jockeys,and still play up.
So imagine a rider who's only probably good at drinking and fighting and identifying non-ferrous and ferrous metals taking a horse thats on its last lags into a public street?!
If they can chuck the champion jockey off,then i'll place my house on the fact that not many else can control them in a rage.
no offence andy but a true comment from someone who obviously doesnt know horses!!
no horse is born with problems with people and wants to chuck them off! just because a champion jockey gets thrown off, it doesnt mean the horse is no good, it means the champion jockey can only sit and hold on and not actually do anything with a horse that isnt a push button horse.
like i said, horses arent born with problems, people create the problems and i doubt very much that you know even the half of what goes on in top race/polo yards, im not surprised that some of the horses have enough and chuck them off!!
Meh.
I'm in controll of my car, your riding some retarded animal.
Should be made to be taxed and definately insured!
If one hit one of my cars/bikes, I'd sue the gimp for as much as I can.
Bloody annoying things:)
what a ridiculous attitude. i think you'll find 99% of horses these days are insured because of people with this kind of attitude!
If you managed to be close enough to let one hit your car, then whos the retard and who'd be the gimp getting sued??
bloody stupid car drivers :)
Southie
04-05-11, 10:47 PM
Regarding the horse poo collecting then >read me (http://www.bunbag.com/?noredirect)<
or we could resort to basic natural instincts and pelt the riders with the poo :d
Hoochie
05-05-11, 09:58 AM
or we could resort to basic natural instincts and pelt the riders with the poo :d
I like your thinking!!.....lol
MattBrown
05-05-11, 11:00 AM
what a ridiculous attitude. i think you'll find 99% of horses these days are insured because of people with this kind of attitude!
If you managed to be close enough to let one hit your car, then whos the retard and who'd be the gimp getting sued??
bloody stupid car drivers :)
I say lets agree to disagree.
IMO horses are no more then dog meat, boring, and smellylol
But its "horses for corses" and fortunately, this nanny state we live in isnt clamping down on everything;)
Bang 'em all up with Ketamine, that will sort it :d
VnoNovaD
05-05-11, 11:22 AM
So its fine to ride a horse on a duel carrigeway,
But when I try and ride a pig down a residential street, the coppers are there in 3mins with serious faces and one hand on the tazer.
Wheres the justice?
So its fine to ride a horse on a duel carrigeway,
But when I try and ride a pig down a residential street, the coppers are there in 3mins with serious faces and one hand on the tazer.
Wheres the justice?
the classy girls thread is in 18+ in the members section....
also, i don't think its ok to ride a horse on a multi lane road, or clearway.
VnoNovaD
05-05-11, 11:28 AM
also, i don't think its ok to ride a horse on a multi lane road, or clearway.
Makes sense. That would slow traffic down, cause a potential hazzard, get horse-todd everywhere........................................ . hang on!
So its fine to ride a horse on a duel carrigeway,
But when I try and ride a pig down a residential street, the coppers are there in 3mins with serious faces and one hand on the tazer.
Wheres the justice?
Pics or STFU with your dribble :d
VnoNovaD
05-05-11, 11:35 AM
Pics or STFU with your dribble :d
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w13/dearjonboy/pig-riding-150.jpg
* taken from Crimewatch reconstruction. Not actual events.
matt_vaughan
05-05-11, 12:04 PM
Ohh the joys of the old 1.0, rev, key bang lol
Cyclists used to get that from me too lol
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