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Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 03:21 PM
Right i think my propblem is the speed sensor why my car cuts out at junction and stopin after reading other posts..

my question is how do i do this as my speedo is mk1 nova cable driven and my gbox is cable driven any advise please as this is really frustration when stopping and it cutting out all time

Edd
14-04-11, 03:25 PM
You need a SPI transducer and SPI speedo cable

Wire that in, blue/red to ecu, black ignition live, and brown to earth

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 03:34 PM
hmm will a standard nova cable do? and where/ how can i get a spi parts from cheers for reply

Edd
14-04-11, 03:43 PM
The speed sensor you need that screws into the gearbox where your speedo cable presently does so

It is from a 1.2/1.4 SPI nova, the speedo cable, which is different to the standard one, then screws in the top of the transducer/speed sensor

Then wire it in

Iain
14-04-11, 03:45 PM
Thought yours was a 1.6 8v, wasn't aware these needed speed sensors (the 16v do though?)

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 03:45 PM
Oh ok then pal, im guessing there hard to come bu? is it three wired as i have a spare 3 pin connector in my loom im thinking this it it? its circular

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 03:46 PM
Thought yours was a 1.6 8v, wasn't aware these needed speed sensors (the 16v do though?)

Apparently they do mate..

bazil
14-04-11, 03:57 PM
C16SE is listed as having an AA transducer ( 6 pulse rate ) and the actual cable is listed as code HL

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 04:01 PM
hmm where do i get hold of these the net isnt bringing nothing up

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 04:02 PM
also thanks bazil

bazil
14-04-11, 04:12 PM
the AA type transducer was also used with the astra digi dash at times so that might be an option to go digi dash and AA ducer

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 04:16 PM
the AA type transducer was also used with the astra digi dash at times so that might be an option to go digi dash and AA ducer

ah ok how did the c16se run in the nova in first place? as they didnt have digi dashes in... was it the spi setup?

bazil
14-04-11, 04:23 PM
SPI means single point injection

MPI muliti point injection is on both the E16 and C16 but the C16 has more sensors on the engine etc, it used the same speedo cable as the spi to do the same job, to tell the ecu the speed of the car

the E16 never used this setup, it only worked of engine speed

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 04:28 PM
SPI means single point injection

MPI muliti point injection is on both the E16 and C16 but the C16 has more sensors on the engine etc, it used the same speedo cable as the spi to do the same job, to tell the ecu the speed of the car

the E16 never used this setup, it only worked of engine speed

I know this but what im trying to ask is what was the setup on the c16 as standard was it the spi vss and spi speedo cable or was it a differnt setup.

What i dont understand is was there a differnt clocks given to c16 engines or gbox or somthing?

Edd
14-04-11, 04:31 PM
C16SE is listed as having an AA transducer ( 6 pulse rate ) and the actual cable is listed as code HL
Did you not read this ? :)

bazil
14-04-11, 04:31 PM
the only thing common on spi and c16 is the speedo cable,

it still drives the clocks the same as your current cable but it also has a few electrical wires that plug into your loom,

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 04:42 PM
I did Read it yes but people saying spi this c16 tha got me abit confused. never mind thanks

so a spi speedo cable will do the job, rather than going digtal?

bazil
14-04-11, 04:44 PM
if it AA then yes

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 04:51 PM
this ill start from beging make it clearer sorry guys..

Right i have my c16se curently running a standard cable resultinh in me stalling at every junction, because i dont have a VSS...

Speedo cable side..
The question is what parts do i need that are easier to get hold of, and what cars could i salvage them off?


Wiring side...
The cable on my loom is a circular clip about size of a 1p and is solid bar 3 circul holes where a 3 pic conection goes..

Sorry about this guys its just anoying me atm lol

bazil
14-04-11, 04:54 PM
fcuk me ill get you a picture LOL lol

bazil
14-04-11, 04:59 PM
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1773520&postcount=5

the cable speedo drive comes out the top of this and goes to your clocks the wires go to the plug on the loom.

Edd
14-04-11, 05:02 PM
Here is a pic of the set up you need

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/6dccf2aa.jpg

bazil
14-04-11, 05:08 PM
thanks edd, ive just clambered through shoite in the garage to get into the gte to find my cable and got dirty, took pics and came back in to see you beet me to it lollol

Edd
14-04-11, 05:18 PM
lol sorry

That pic was from the load I have for my mega Sport update, can't be fooked with it ATM so posted it up lol

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 05:43 PM
thank you guys and cheers bazil for ****ing about like that will see what a can get then..

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 05:52 PM
is it true AA is 8 Pulse some one says on Mig dont i need 6 Pulse?

Edd
14-04-11, 06:04 PM
Seeing as on EPC it lists a AA type one I would 100% say that is correct

Had a look on Mig could see a thread about vss/speed sensors ?

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 06:06 PM
Hmm ok just this guy put


I think some corsas used AA (I might be wrong).

AH were 6 imp
AK were 16 imp
AA were (possibly) 8 imp

Edd
14-04-11, 06:10 PM
I'd would go with what EPC says not someone who 'thinks' they know on MIG tbh

Vausey_Nova_Knotla
14-04-11, 06:23 PM
Ok then cant find one of these any where what cars have/ had them on and what do i need to ask for at scrappers? or when ringing aouto company up?

dan23
15-04-11, 10:42 PM
if you ask at scrappie they are likely to not know if they have any( they wont be arsed to go an look just tell the you want some random small part an see what else you find

what car did the engine come from ?
i may be wrong but i m sure 1.2 corsa had them
go to babingtons at cross green its quite big you should find one there . also theres another scrapie round corner from them

bazil
15-04-11, 10:46 PM
Try astra mk3 1.6 they had the c16 fitted too

Edd
15-04-11, 10:49 PM
You'll want a car without abs iirc

AlexW
15-04-11, 11:00 PM
Early corsa's Should have the same setup, Not sure. Later ones are obv fully electrical.