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swedge
15-03-11, 03:32 PM
whats the worst handling car youve ever drove in the standard setup

im talking about cars from the 1990 to now

id have to say my mums m reg clio the thing has so much body roll its unreal

mowgli
15-03-11, 03:39 PM
dodge people carrier in 2002, miami.. horrendous on normal roads, but like driving a sofa on the highway......

citroen picasso, the creme egg car type..... its got the feedback of a fisher price kiddy car..... hateful thing

i know its not really a car, but everything LDV ever made...crap

AlexW
15-03-11, 03:44 PM
Mk1 clio's are pretty epic, Standard suspension and 13inch steels with massive tyres makes a fun but really dodgy handling car.

Std corsa's and nova's are pretty much the same, Deadly if you push too hard

bmw156
15-03-11, 03:46 PM
renault 21 turbo, are just shocking.

200bhp, fwd, engine out over the front. and a massive barge of a car. not fun lol. it made me poo my pants lol.

swedge
15-03-11, 03:47 PM
a few vectra b's ive drover were pretty bad aswell but im used to driving small cars so could be that

mowgli
15-03-11, 03:51 PM
mk3 astra does a lovely line in understeer.......

MK999
15-03-11, 03:51 PM
A Nova, obviously lol

Mike
15-03-11, 03:52 PM
Nissan bluebird turbo. Hairaisingly scary with shocking brakes!

AlexW
15-03-11, 03:53 PM
MK1 MR2 with a V6 in the back when all the suspension has just been lobbed on, not setup and none of the tracking done.

mowgli
15-03-11, 03:55 PM
trouble is that handling is a personal preference.....

the worst handling car i ever drove ever, was a morris ital 1.7 that i got for its axle & front hubs for my moggie pickup.... in 1998, it truly was the most shocking driving experience ever....


but mk999, i dispute your view...

a 1.2 merit with low mileage, and fresh suspension, on 145r13 tyres was the first car i drove quickly.... it was hilarious to drive... most people have only driven either shagged ones or massively modified ones.

MK999
15-03-11, 04:02 PM
1.2i, low mileage (45k when I picked it up) totally standard and no broken bits etc, handles like ****.

It may be fun when it's the first thing you've ever driven that you're allowed to drive vaguely fast but they certainly don't handle well. The front runs negative camber at the standard ride height and when it rolls 20 degrees you end up running 25 degrees of said camber lol It makes the tyres squeal at 20 if you turn into a tight corner, and doing motorway miles is nothing short of terrifying as it wobbles around the lane like an 800 kilo blancmange. Not to mention the massive brown trouser moment when you come off onto the sliproad and the lights go red, as the standard stopping distance for a 1.2i nova at 70 is around 2 miles. lol

Dropped 60mm on coilovers and stripped out on 195/45/15's it was an entirely different animal and the potential of it was way beyond what I felt comfortable exploring on the road.

wwmnw
15-03-11, 04:05 PM
Nova. Everything else I've driven has been more modern. May I just say, although they look **** K11 Micra's handle AWESOME they're only let down by the sloppy suspension in my opinion.



It may be fun when it's the first thing you've ever driven that you're allowed to drive vaguely fast but they certainly don't handle well. The front runs negative camber at the standard ride height and when it rolls 20 degrees you end up running 25 degrees of said camber lol It makes the tyres squeal at 20 if you turn into a tight corner, and doing motorway miles is nothing short of terrifying as it wobbles around the lane like an 800 kilo blancmange. Not to mention the massive brown trouser moment when you come off onto the sliproad and the lights go red, as the standard stopping distance for a 1.2i nova at 70 is around 2 miles. lol


That is so true to when I got my first Nova.

mowgli
15-03-11, 04:13 PM
mk. i was using mine with completely std suspension, no arbs, std brakes, 165.70r13 tyres on the std rims & then i stuck in my 1400 engine, so about 90hp... and as i say, it was hilarious.... and it beat a lot of cars cross country, and the motorway speeds were fine, i was doing 115 on the autobahn with no trouble at all,
then i stuck bigger wheels on, spax suspension, bigger brakes, it went a lot faster cross country, but didn't necessarily feel any better
in fact, my current one feels overtyred to me, and i will be looking for skinnier tyres when they need swapping....

skyinsurance
15-03-11, 04:21 PM
1991 V8 Range Rover.. tried a lane change at 80mph... **** the bed!!!

Jack
15-03-11, 04:22 PM
Agree with the aforementioned Nova BUT to be fair, you'd never really expect one to handle all that well as its just a shopping cart not a sporty little number.

Aside from that, in standard form, 206 GTi-180. Worst. Car. Ever. In fact, the handling is so bad as standard I'd say it was almost dangerous! lol

As for non-standard cars, I'd say my V6 lol

skyinsurance
15-03-11, 04:23 PM
K11 Micra's handle AWESOME they're only let down by the sloppy suspension in my opinion.





I've got to agree.. I'm running a 'super s' k11 alongside my Uno Turbo at the moment (you need a back up car when owning a turbo'd Fiat) and it handles really well!

Jeff16v
15-03-11, 04:30 PM
Mk1 Golf cabriolet, turn the wheel and pray it turnslol, I actually ripped the rack off the bulkhead giving it the yeehaa on the bend

MK999
15-03-11, 04:31 PM
I've got to agree.. I'm running a 'super s' k11 alongside my Uno Turbo at the moment (you need a back up car when owning a turbo'd Fiat) and it handles really well!

How do you ever afford to insure 2 cars atm lol

kiwinova
15-03-11, 04:47 PM
proton gl 1.5L triple valve

mowgli
15-03-11, 04:50 PM
proton gl 1.5L triple valve

is that a car?? i thought it was a mobile coffin

kiwinova
15-03-11, 04:58 PM
lol i will give one point, it was extremely reliable

skyinsurance
15-03-11, 05:25 PM
How do you ever afford to insure 2 cars atm lol

Both nice and cheap to insure.. I'll probably sell the Uno shortly and swap the policy onto to my turbo'd Mk1 Mr2.. then even I need to bend over :mad:

Andy
15-03-11, 05:29 PM
Vauxhall Nova.Its got to be.
Best-Peugeot 309 Gti

MK999
15-03-11, 05:30 PM
Both nice and cheap to insure.. I'll probably sell the Uno shortly and swap the policy onto to my turbo'd Mk1 Mr2.. then even I need to bend over :mad:

Surely you just accidently put a quote through at not very much lol

pie
15-03-11, 05:32 PM
xr2's n xr3's are fun lol

mowgli
15-03-11, 05:33 PM
original xr3 was pants, xr3i was better

skyinsurance
15-03-11, 05:44 PM
Surely you just accidently put a quote through at not very much lol

I wish!

Amazingly it is diffiicult for Sky staff to get insured here on our schemes, we have to meet the same age, postcode and vehicle criteria as all of our customers. I'm just lucky I'm almost 30 and have the perfect sort of cars for our schemes.

Ollie

Andy
15-03-11, 05:45 PM
xr2's n xr3's are fun lol
An XR2 Mk2 would be a close 2nd for best handling
XR3i's were pretty good

skyinsurance
15-03-11, 05:46 PM
Best handeling car for me (road car) was my mint Mk1 Mr2 Supercharger with LSD. It was sublime!

Balley
15-03-11, 05:57 PM
my standard td handled well tbh,

106xnd was the worst lol

dave.gsi
15-03-11, 06:04 PM
Nova Sr.
Dangerous is the word i'd use. A slight dribble of rain and you have 15 miles of understeer, even at 10mph. As for the brakes :eek:

Best is a Clio 16V, insane turn in and just keeps gripping. I miss my 16V more than my old novas

Edd
15-03-11, 06:07 PM
106 xsi

Fooking shocking, handling crap, turning circle crap, front end suspension brittle and crap, electrics crap

Awful cars Pugs, how can some people call some of their range classics, like 205's, I'll never know

Lee H
15-03-11, 06:17 PM
Worst was my Nova Gsi with 20XE on standard suspension. Changed lanes on the motorway under hard acceleration.

Andy
15-03-11, 06:25 PM
106 xsi

Fooking shocking, handling crap, turning circle crap, front end suspension brittle and crap, electrics crap

Awful cars Pugs, how can some people call some of their range classics, like 205's, I'll never know
I thought 106xsi was quite fun really,a friend of mine used to have one
205 gti or T16 not a classic but a Nova sport is??!! haha lol lol

Edd
15-03-11, 06:48 PM
No nova is a classic lol

Andy
15-03-11, 06:58 PM
No nova is a classic lol
I agree lol lol

Lee
15-03-11, 07:01 PM
I drove a mates Mini which he had put the rear subframe on deliberately cock eyed.

It went round roundabouts like you wouldn't believe, but when it came to turning left, you were going in a hedge whether you liked it or not :)

MattBrown
15-03-11, 07:13 PM
Dads old jag xjs v12, understeer, overseers hedge.

Like a tank, and Shiite on fuel lol

Best I'd say is my mates mk5 golf gti, or a lad has an imprezza 3 door type r import, that's point and shoot (obviously I was in the passenger seat lol)

Spudly
15-03-11, 07:19 PM
Jacks V6 saloon, when it comes to turning, youre going in a hedge whether you like it or not :)



lol

Derick-Sport
15-03-11, 07:41 PM
106 1.1 zest what the **** it was the worst car ever, not just the handling everything was bad

shed-on-wheels
15-03-11, 07:59 PM
my mk1 punto

mowgli
15-03-11, 08:03 PM
seriously people, how many of you actually drove a nova when it was less than 2 years old, and on its original wheels??? they were fine handling little cars...the sr was an exercise in make a car look sporty & slap in a big interior, sunroof & vinyl, but it was not a good as a lesser model.....

most peoples perception is from when they drive a car with slack bushes, saggy suspension & cheap tyres..

Jack
15-03-11, 08:21 PM
lol
And if there's no hedge it'll damn well find one and put you through it.

TeddyThom
15-03-11, 08:29 PM
Definately my nova lol, the body roll on it makes it feel like I'm all out to sea in the bloody thing!!

MK1_Ben
15-03-11, 08:30 PM
Friends MK2 golf on cut springs...

Dives under any remotely angled corner, then understeers for 2 miles, then as it finally gains traction the body lurches/rolls to go in the direction of the wheels in turn causing the back to try and impersonate a RWD car.

blue_peg_16v
15-03-11, 09:24 PM
best would have to be a 205 gti (was standard and awsome)
worst 1.6 meastro
favourite 3.0 senator i will get another 1 day

blue_peg_16v
15-03-11, 09:26 PM
And if there's no hedge it'll damn well find one and put you through it.

thought you used an ex warship anchor to get round bends

Jeff16v
15-03-11, 09:31 PM
seriously people, how many of you actually drove a nova when it was less than 2 years old, and on its original wheels??? they were fine handling little cars...the sr was an exercise in make a car look sporty & slap in a big interior, sunroof & vinyl, but it was not a good as a lesser model.....

most peoples perception is from when they drive a car with slack bushes, saggy suspension & cheap tyres..

I actually brought a black 1.2 merit in 1991 brand new, it handled pretty well funnily enough although in the dry. But it falls off the road even if a bird gets slightly moist in the passenger seatlol

MattBrown
15-03-11, 09:33 PM
seriously people, how many of you actually drove a nova when it was less than 2 years old, and on its original wheels??? they were fine handling little cars...the sr was an exercise in make a car look sporty & slap in a big interior, sunroof & vinyl, but it was not a good as a lesser model.....

most peoples perception is from when they drive a car with slack bushes, saggy suspension & cheap tyres..


Mines done 10k, so can't be far off new.

It's handles ok, but it's done 3 miles round the block in my ownership, with me as a passenger! All I have done is backed it out of the current storage, and put it back in lol

novalew
15-03-11, 09:51 PM
Mk3 fiesta 1.8 diesel worst car period. Handled like a canal boat in a storm and had about 2 Bhp as in 2 broken horses that were into glue power.

Never broke down though

floydy13
15-03-11, 10:00 PM
a citroen 2cv was pretty dangerous!

wwmnw
15-03-11, 10:24 PM
Mk3 fiesta 1.8 diesel worst car period. Handled like a canal boat in a storm and had about 2 Bhp as in 2 broken horses that were into glue power.

Never broke down though

Cars have periods? Now I know why people call their cars "she" when they're temper mental.

Paul
15-03-11, 11:08 PM
Cavalier turbo. Had been smacked up the ****, the steering was clunking, grinding, clicking and groaning. Tracking was awful, the engine was in one mount, sort of, there was literally no rubber left on the rear mount, was on awful 18s with very very very tired suspension.

All in all was horrendous.

Paul
15-03-11, 11:09 PM
Oh and the track rod ends were as good as seized solid with no gaitor on one of them.

Rick Draper
15-03-11, 11:22 PM
MK4 Astra GSI.

MattBrown
15-03-11, 11:24 PM
MK4 Astra GSI.

Funny you say that, a local lads used to swap ends in the wet, just randomly on its own lol

Connor
16-03-11, 04:06 AM
mk3 astray with shagged boggo suspension, was absolutely hideous

jonnyp
16-03-11, 07:29 AM
freelander wins hands down lol

mowgli
16-03-11, 07:34 AM
freelander wins hands down lol

i didn't want to mention that, as i don't consider it to be a car

mowgli
16-03-11, 07:35 AM
I actually brought a black 1.2 merit in 1991 brand new, it handled pretty well funnily enough although in the dry. But it falls off the road even if a bird gets slightly moist in the passenger seatlol

my 84 merit was like that until i changed the firestone originals for uniroyals...

db_1.2
16-03-11, 08:39 AM
Xr3i, struggle to overcome the understeer, and when you do, you end up trying to control rear end from oversteer.

mowgli
16-03-11, 08:45 AM
or replace the work bottom arms/bushes & watch it handle......

i have driven a 205 that was the most dangerous car ever in a corner due to knackered bushes... it actually grabbed the wheel & turned further into the corner on its own & only by luck & heavy braking did i avoid ditching it....once fixed, it was fine again

Maxfield
16-03-11, 09:16 AM
Worst handling car - Fiat Brava something seriously with it.

Best handling car - E30 M3.

paul james
16-03-11, 09:54 AM
I also find it rather baffling when people say the Nova is a crap handling car. Of all the models I've had (standard 1.2 and up), they have all been great fun, and entirely predictable to drive so I could push them hard easily.


Worst handling car - Peugeot 205. But this was a modified 1.9 GTi I owned briefly. The previous owner had lowered it way too much. A slight bump in the road would send the car off in any random direction.

wwmnw
16-03-11, 11:02 AM
The only reason I said Nova is because apart from a Chevette and K11 Micra, its the only old car I've driven, and the previous two handle much better lol

mowgli
16-03-11, 11:14 AM
bathfart, i have driven chevettes, they are awful, just because they are rwd doesn't make them good..
the micra is better because of something called 20 years of development...... the old square micra, in my opinion was adequate at best, and certainly not as good as a nova.

Mieran
16-03-11, 11:45 AM
mk3 astra 1.4 with a c20xe on standard suspension

kiwinova
16-03-11, 12:13 PM
a citroen 2cv was pretty dangerous!

Did it got fast enough for you to find out if it handled well? lol

mrT
16-03-11, 12:13 PM
a few ive had that would take some beating are 309 gti (mi16),mk2 xr2, clio,

one of the worst would have to be the nova im sorry to say, it would of been raped by any of the above all day long, was the only thing i never ever liked of the car tbh

Grey
16-03-11, 12:52 PM
ill say the lovely fiat panda seen one roll cornering hard

jonnyp
16-03-11, 06:19 PM
i didn't want to mention that, as i don't consider it to be a car
i owned one for a short while. was total pants ......

Royston
16-03-11, 07:17 PM
Nissan bluebird turbo. Hairaisingly scary with shocking brakes!


I use to drive 1.6 & 2.0l Bluebirds, always use to say I'd driven better tractorslol

In fact a block of wood handles better than a bluebirdlol


Late escorts were also poor use to drive a 1.8 Ghia ride quality was good but understeer was unreal, use to to be hilarious on a wet roundaboutlol

Bearing in mind both of the above were companiy vehicles and well maintained

Jack
16-03-11, 08:01 PM
Bearing in mind both of the above were companiy vehicles and well maintained but abused daily
lol