hyd hand brake conversion kits.

[16v Nova Kev]

who has one. what size do you get (link to ebay will remove if needed) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Rally-Car-Hydraulic-Handbrake-Conversion-Kit-/280630461390?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4156e103ce)
can i run a bias valve at the same time.

rep for good info and cyber hugs :cool: :thumb:

[total_vauxhall]

i think you will need to run an adjustable bias mate i did with mine . without it i had alsorts of problems, 0.75 wilwood on mine .

[mk1nova_rich]

Yes run a single line through a bias valve then through the handbrake then split to the rear brakes

[16v Nova Kev]

i have an adj compbrake bias valve atm but not fitted.

[16v Nova Kev]

Yes run a single line through a bias valve then through the handbrake then split to the rear brakes

i was thinking that was the way to it. :thumb:

[Steve0011]

0.625 is the one to use and the bias valve must be before the master cylinder

some of the stage rally guys sugest smaller than 0.625 if you can get one, i use this size and so do all my mates in the road rally scene

:)

edited to say that in my opinion a bias valve is a must have item, adjusted so the rears dont lock up under normal braking

oh yes just i case you dont know the pipe from the front of the car go to the hole with the black cover and the pipe to the rear calipers goes from the red (as shown in the ebay pic) lots of people get this wrong :)

[16v Nova Kev]

i just ordered a 0.75..

[Steve0011]

so you did'nt read my post then? lol

[16v Nova Kev]

lol i did after i hit buy it now.

[Steve0011]

contact seller :) everyone on the rally forum says use .625, only one person i found on search said they used .75 and that was on drum brakes for disks the same guy said he used .625

[bazil]

I used .625 on my bias box too for the rear,

I take it when you say fit the bias valve before the master cylinder you mean the handbrake cylinder and not the one at the servo?

[autoworksnovasport]

I used .625 on my bias box too for the rear,

I take it when you say fit the bias valve before the master cylinder you mean the handbrake cylinder and not the one at the servo?

how could you fit it before the servo????:wtf:lol

[bazil]

how could you fit it before the servo????:wtf:lol

you win a choclolate watch my friend lol

it was exactly my point!

[Dayle_]

I too would reccomend a .625 on the hand brake. As other people said run a single line through the car and then t-piece it off at the back of the car.

[autoworksnovasport]

thought so wasnt asking the question was asking why you were asking the question:thumb::thumb:

[Dayle_]

Also keep the mechanical hand brake available DON'T USE ONE OF THEM LINE LOCKS. Otherwise you will come out to see your car gone and it will have rolled away!

[bazil]

To see who came up with best answer lol

Kev I've got the full plumbing diagram in a book if you want it scaned and posted up let me know,

And one other thing, the term bias valve, it doesn't actually bias the brakes front to rear, it only restricts the flow to the rear and the braking effort for the front is not affected as it's supply comes from a different source on the master cylinder anyway,

[Steve0011]

i think they are also known as proportional valves which is a better description??

:)

[16v Nova Kev]

sorry should have said I'm on drums

[Angus Closier]

To see who came up with best answer lol

Kev I've got the full plumbing diagram in a book if you want it scaned and posted up let me know,

And one other thing, the term bias valve, it doesn't actually bias the brakes front to rear, it only restricts the flow to the rear and the braking effort for the front is not affected as it's supply comes from a different source on the master cylinder anyway,


Please do, would be helpful for everyone. Could even make a "how to"??

[bazil]

I shall dig it out, scan it up and stuck it articles

[16v Nova Kev]

please do bazil. You rep whore lols

[bazil]

lol I can't scan it now as I had a bitchfit earlier and samshed up my scaner lollol but I will take a quality picture for you and post it up tomorrow as I'm nightshift ATM

[16v Nova Kev]

you could always just pop over and fit mine lol to save you all the hasle oh course.

[bazil]

yeah like i'll do some work on a nova lollollollol

anyway here be the pikture, i notice now that it is for a pedal box setup so does not have the "bias valve" fitted but the plumbing would be the same anyway with the bias vale fitted in before the hyd handbrake.
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/random1/P3100055.jpg

[Hobbit]

best get a bias valve fitted to mine then...

this is how mine is mounted so I can reach it and its out the way of the cable one..

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/Track%20nova%20build/007-3-1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/Track%20nova%20build/005-2-1.jpg

dont have any better pics with the seats in but you get the idea.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p72/wiggardywoo/Track%20nova%20build/35415_409918601127_573361127_507715.jpg

[16v Nova Kev]

Mmmm some tasty bits in there mr hobson

[Mike]

Somewhere in my WiP theres some quite detailed pics of mine being fitted.

[16v Nova Kev]

yes i notised its all your fault that i bought one:thumb:

[Mike]

yes i notised its all your fault that i bought one:thumb:

LMFAO lol lol

[Johnny A]

A very cheap and effective alternative for the master cylinder is off an old Land Rover, they have a threaded in and out connection so can be used in-line with the rear brake circuit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LAND-ROVER-SERIES-2A-SWB-BRAKE-MASTER-CYLINDER-CV-TYPE-/280626800816?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4156a928b0

[16v Nova Kev]

i had thought of just buying one like that. but the one i got had a nice bracet and saved my making one

[Mike]

Dont forget when you mount it up you want the clevis pin near enough on the end of the threaded bar thats on the M/C so you can get as much throw on the h/lever as possible.

I only shortened mine down to make max throw at 3 clicks because thats just the way I like it kinda thing.

[16v Nova Kev]

cool will do.