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swedge
02-03-11, 07:42 PM
whilst stripping my engine i also made this today :)

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/swedge87/184233_1863145336200_1167986524_2249515_7592478_n. jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/swedge87/183574_1863144016167_1167986524_2249514_3995902_n. jpg

i never drilled and tapped it as i dont have a pillar drill so i welded bolts on instead

white was the only paint i had lying so on it went
Benn
02-03-11, 07:43 PM
Looks good, wanna make me one to use with my F28...
swedge
02-03-11, 07:44 PM
cant see the linkages being the same or are they?

thier actualy easy enough to make
Benn
02-03-11, 07:51 PM
Yeah, same as the f20 one. You just turn the plastic D around. The f28 you mod the gear box arm bit.

How much where the bits tho?
swedge
02-03-11, 07:58 PM
i got my rosejoints and mis-aligned washers from mcgill motorsport since i heard good things about them

altogether about £20 i have about 40 lengths of threaded bar so i didnt have to buy any of that
Edd
02-03-11, 08:00 PM
Nice

I've just made one up for the Sport, £20 in bits beets £175 for a new linkage from Vauxhall lol
swedge
02-03-11, 08:02 PM
haha sure does

one of the plastic bush things on mine that go onto the knuckles were worn so had to wrap it in electrical tape as it kept popping off

sorted now though
Benn
02-03-11, 08:04 PM
20quid in bits? Thought rose joints where alot more than that...
bmw156
02-03-11, 08:06 PM
20quid in bits? Thought rose joints where alot more than that...
they are if you buy good ones.

dont buy the economy ones are they come with play lol. i made that mistake.
swedge
02-03-11, 08:07 PM
nope

http://www.mcgillmotorsports.co.uk/

try there alot of people use them and very quick delivery

better of phoning them too very helpfull as they didnt have the size of washers i needed so gave me imperial size washers which fit fine
bmw156
02-03-11, 08:10 PM
i will say they are very useful, if you go through their website they are cheaper then their ebay shop.

and again via email the girl was very helpful and even sent me a paypal invoice with excatly what i needed.
mk1nova_rich
02-03-11, 08:12 PM
I got mine from McGill too, a set of 4 rose joints with all the misalignment spacers came to nearly £30 alone before you even add the bolts and nuts...
bmw156
02-03-11, 08:13 PM
I got mine from McGill too, a set of 4 rose joints with all the misalignment spacers came to nearly £30 alone before you even add the bolts and nuts...

i made the mistake on orderering a set of 5 LH thread lock nuts, when i only needed one.

after emailing, the lady said she would just sell me one...
swedge
02-03-11, 08:14 PM
mine were just the basic rosejoints though and i cant see any play in them

for a road car i cant see it needing super duper rosejoints
Benn
02-03-11, 08:44 PM
Sweet, i might buy some and make one up.
MK1_Ben
02-03-11, 08:45 PM
Would making one of these be beneficial for the 4 speed in my 1.2 merit? as the Gearstick can literally move like 3 inches side to side whilst in gear...
Iain
02-03-11, 08:53 PM
Yes it would. Get nylon pivot bushes from LMF too or it leaves play in the worn out middle bit.

I'm sure my rosejoints and misalignment spacers were nearer £30 odd than £20.

Be worth cutting down those long bolts to make sure it doesn't hit anything, and making sure plenty of the bolt is through the nylock nut cos I had serious issues of it coming loose with non-nylock nuts.
swedge
02-03-11, 08:55 PM
yeah those pics were took just after i put it all together

im gonna trim the bolts down and screw the rj in a bit more as well
swedge
02-03-11, 08:58 PM
it was £23 for mine just checked my invoice that was for the rosejoints washers and nuts as they dont supply bolts
Tim
03-03-11, 07:52 AM
Can i have a shopping list of what i will need to make 1 of these.
swedge
03-03-11, 05:22 PM
this is what i used

2x m10 male rose joints
4x missaligned m10 washers
2x m8 female rosejoints
4x m8 missaligned washers
2x m10 60mm bolts
2x m860mm bolts

length of m8 threaded rod or you can put a thread on your existing bar i couldnt as mine was plastic

you will also need m10 and m8 nuts to go with the bolts, i used nylock nuts on mine so didnt need as many just grab a few of each you should be able to get them from any hardware store anyway

theres a guide in the articles section
Tim
03-03-11, 05:56 PM
this is what i used

2x m10 male rose joints
4x missaligned m10 washers
2x m8 female rosejoints
4x m8 missaligned washers
2x m10 60mm bolts
2x m860mm bolts

length of m8 threaded rod or you can put a thread on your existing bar i couldnt as mine was plastic

you will also need m10 and m8 nuts to go with the bolts, i used nylock nuts on mine so didnt need as many just grab a few of each you should be able to get them from any hardware store anyway

theres a guide in the articles section

thankyou please.

i have seen the guide and wondered how efficient this would be to use??

is there a significant improvement over the std unit??

is yours for use on a xe with f20 box?
Benn
03-03-11, 05:58 PM
Awesome^ might make my self one. Got a web address for that place...
swedge
03-03-11, 06:03 PM
i havent fitted mine yet but i can see it being an improvement over standard

anyone have one fitted at the moment?

mine will be fitted to a c14se

better of calling them as thier relly helpfull

http://www.mcgillmotorsports.co.uk/
novaboyopr
04-03-11, 12:42 AM
I've got my rose jointed but in a different way to that.
The way you have positioned the joints with the pressure being put onto the center will be pushing the middle of the joint outwards. Not how the rose joint is designed to work.
It's hard to explain but my rosejoints are threaded into the input and are pushing on a threaded bar from the linkage itself. So the pressure will be pushing the middle into the joint not out of it. Then the movement in the joint left and right allows for the slight twisting to select gears.
Will try and snap a pic tomorrow its a lot easier to work put looking at it tbh.