registering my engine

[24sevenslacker]

i want to register my xe in my nova as it is still down as a 1L. just wondering how i go about it and what i need. will i need to get the car tested i.e engine mounts brakes etc. and if so how do i go about doing this?

cheers guys

[mk1nova_rich]

You will need the engine number to change on the logbook, and an engineer's report to verify that the brakes, suspension etc have been suitably upgraded and that everything is safe.

Then I'm sure you have to go to your local DVLA office and get it sorted

[bmw156]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/ChangesToYourRegistrationCertificate/DG_4022054

thats what you need, i am now doing this on the chevette.

you need the engine number, VIN, REG, and engine CC. on a headed bit of paper from a garage.

[DAFTJOHN]

You will need the engine number to change on the logbook, and an engineer's report to verify that the brakes, suspension etc have been suitably upgraded and that everything is safe.

Then I'm sure you have to go to your local DVLA office and get it sorted


Yep, that's the best way. Takes too long doing it via mail to the dvla

[24sevenslacker]

so would that be like an MOT type test or is it more than that?

[24sevenslacker]

Change to engine and cylinder capacity (engine size)
DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). Written evidence can be:

a receipt for the replacement engine

written evidence from the manufacturer

an inspection report provided for insurance purposes

written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle



im guessing i would need these two then?

[Jack]

Depending on the level of modification, you may need an SVA (or whatever it is they do now). Even a bit of chassis bashing to fit an XE alternator should need one! However, pretty much everyone doesn't bother unless the car is a complete kit build.

I just had my MOT man give the car a quick poke over, and write a note on headed paper to say the car was built to a suitable standard for the power requirements etc. Also confirmed reg plate, engine number and size etc.

Took that and the V5c, MOT, existing tax, insurance etc along to the local DVLA office and they did everything over the counter, including sending my V5 up to Swansea for me. Few days later it arrived back with all the right info on it :thumb:


[edit] You need one of those on the list; in my case it counted as an inspection report.

[hendrix]

but what happens if the engine change took place while you were the owner of the car????

[bmw156]

so if i take it to the DVLA office, will they do it right away on the spot?

edit, thanks jack.

p.s do you need insurance also. as i will be doing it while the car sits on my drive :)

[hendrix]

and given mine has been off the road for 3 years so has no MOT, no insurance etc then I may have some bother.

[24sevenslacker]

and given mine has been off the road for 3 years so has no MOT, no insurance etc then I may have some bother.

mine has no tax or insurance either

[bmw156]

lol hendrix.

surly you dont even need an MOT or tax to change the engine CC

[Jack]

Hendrix, you just have to get it inspected and confirmed by a garage or inspection authority (as in, AA/RAC check). I was in the same boat when I XE'd mine - out of MOT and unused for a few years. I did insurance THEN mot THEN tax and V5c update (tax can be done at the DVLA office when they update the V5c)

Martin, yeah, but they still need to send the V5 to DVLA in swansea. But its handy as they check everything is in order before it gets sent and review the required documents, so all thats left for swansea to do is print the new V5c and post it to you.

[hendrix]

Cheers Jack font of all knowledge :)

[24sevenslacker]

so let me get this straight, i would have to insure it (as 2L?) MOT it and then tax and V5c it?

[Jack]

Yep.

1] Insurance so you can drive it to the MOT station
2] MOT it, ask mr MOT man nicely to write a confirmation of engine number + reg plate
3] Take new MOT, confirmation note and insurance to DVLA to get tax and new V5c

It'd be worth calling the MOT station beforehand to explain you'd like a confirmation note for the DVLA of the engine thats in the car though. If they get a little shirty about it, thats when you start looking elsewhere - I seem to recall another option would be to have Vauxhall inspect the car and confirm the engine number/reg plate, but of course you'd be paying dealer rates for an hour or so of inspection.

The insurance company would also no doubt want to see the confirmation note of engine swap as well, but they'll probably issue you a temp cover note in the meantime which you can use for the tax & V5c update.

[bmw156]

Hendrix, you just have to get it inspected and confirmed by a garage or inspection authority (as in, AA/RAC check). I was in the same boat when I XE'd mine - out of MOT and unused for a few years. I did insurance THEN mot THEN tax and V5c update (tax can be done at the DVLA office when they update the V5c)

Martin, yeah, but they still need to send the V5 to DVLA in swansea. But its handy as they check everything is in order before it gets sent and review the required documents, so all thats left for swansea to do is print the new V5c and post it to you.

thanks jack, i work next to a garage who are willing to do a letter for me, just need to trailer the car down the and get it sorted lol.

how long jack did it take to come through after the local office sorted it?

[Jack]

I can't remember exactly but it was pretty quick. Probably about a week, certainly no more than 10 days. Considering some people usually have to wait 4-6 weeks when they post direct to Swansea!

[bmw156]

thanks :D

+ rep given

[24sevenslacker]

thanks for the help. cheers

[Andy]

All i did was drive to Bev DVLA,write in new engine size,gave him a receipt of purchase of the engine,stating its CC,what car it was taken from etc.
Surrendered my old tax disc,paid the difference.Walked away with a new tax disc,received logbook in 2weeks.
I was waiting longer in the queue!!!

You dont need written confirmation of anything,merely a receipt off "the seller" saying Make+model removed from and CC,at least not at Beverley DVLA i didnt anyway

[Spudly]

As Andy said, go to the local office in Beverly with the new number written on your V5 and hand it to them and say youd like to change the engine number and taxation class, tell them its on SORN and thats why you dont need a replacement disc as yet and robert should be your mothers brother:thumb:

[bmw156]

i was talking to a guy today who recenlty done his corsa, he said he just wrote the new info on the logbook. and a covering letter, sent it away and it came back all good...

[Jack]

They SHOULD ask for proof, especially if you're going up over a tax bracket (or downsizing to any size), but as is so often the case with the DVLA its hit and miss whether or not they will ask to see anything. I'd rather be safe than sorry tbh, and as said it'd be handy for insurance.

[Andy]

They SHOULD ask for proof, especially if you're going up over a tax bracket (or downsizing to any size), but as is so often the case with the DVLA its hit and miss whether or not they will ask to see anything. I'd rather be safe than sorry tbh, and as said it'd be handy for insurance.
They told me you only had to provide proof when downsizing as obviously you could be doing so for fraudulent reasons-ie to pay less tax.

[Jack]

Change to engine and cylinder capacity (engine size)

DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). Written evidence can be:

* a receipt for the replacement engine
* written evidence from the manufacturer
* an inspection report provided for insurance purposes
* written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle


Change to fuel type or engine size

You’ll need to tax your vehicle at your nearest DVLA local office. Write the new details in section seven of your Registration Certificate.

DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). This can be the receipt for the new engine, or written evidence from the manufacturer, insurance company or garage that carried out the change.

And for downsizing, specifically:

If the fuel type or engine size has changed

For changes to the fuel type or engine size, which needs a lower rate of vehicle tax to be paid, you must provide documentary evidence of the change. This can be the receipt for the new engine, written evidence from the manufacturer, insurance company or garage that carried out the change.

As said, whether or not the luddite behind the couter will ask, thats the unknown factor lol

[Andy]

lol lol
I had more trouble 1300 in my 1l than i did with my xe