Low As Possible.

[novadose2009]

hi i have a mk1 2door saloon and i want it as low as possible without using juice or air, so i have fitted Ultra Low Gaz Gold Fully Adjustable Coilies. They are fitted, and on the rears im on to the bumper stops and really want it lower. I have been thinking about turreting the rears how much drop could this help achieve on the rears approx and is there anything else i could do to drop it further.

Any ideas.

thanks simon

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[Count Vaux Alot]

If you raise the top mounting point when turreting the rear then you can drop it as much as you want until you hit clearance issues with the rear beam to chassis or wheels to arches etc

[novadose2009]

ok mate thanks very much how much higher if you can remember did raise ur turrets compared to the standard turret mount height.

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[Edd]

It might look good but it's going to drive like crap mate

Plus and small bump in the road and you will probably damage something on the underside

[novadose2009]

It might look good but it's going to drive like crap mate

Plus and small bump in the road and you will probably damage something on the underside

not to fussed about ride quality or practicality with this car but if i raise the turrets and keep the car at this height il be able to wind up my coilies and have more travel and a smoother ride.

and i have only thought about the exhaust underneath but that now sits completly flush in the tunnel and itl be chassis if anything that will hit underneath heres hoping that dont happen.

thanks simon

[garyc]

wouldnt it be easier to buy some shorter coilovers?

[Count Vaux Alot]

ok mate thanks very much how much higher if you can remember did raise ur turrets compared to the standard turret mount height.

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You can raise them as much as you want within reason. I can't remember exactly what mine were but 25-50mm is about right.

[stevie-p]

cant help you there mate but hitting a bit of chassis is all good=sparks but i wouldent fancy hitting them on a nova

[Calamity Josh]

My brother is into his low dubs and you can get titanium blocks which you put on the lowest chassis points and the gradually wear down but it saves your chassis and underneath, also they give off sparks when they hit the floor which looks quite cool

[novadose2009]

My brother is into his low dubs and you can get titanium blocks which you put on the lowest chassis points and the gradually wear down but it saves your chassis and underneath, also they give off sparks when they hit the floor which looks quite cool

will have to look into this :thumb:

[Pistol Pete]

Brap!

Low and slow is ok, but within reason. Having £400 of coilovers sat on their bumpstops is just foolish IMO!

[mowgli]

i knew a bloke who had a hillman husky van with a cossie engine, and it was soo low that it had castors fitted into the sills to prevent grounding.........


but considering the nova isn't massively different in suspension layout to a mk1 golf, why not go airbag & be done with it????

basically, low & solid is fine if you are called Hans & live in Germany..... but it is truly pathetic in the uk.... you need loads of ground clearance, and as said before, softish suspension to be a nice ride... and even vaguely decent at handling....

[mk1nova_rich]

raise the stub axles up from the beam to retain a bit more suspension travel

[db_1.2]

You do know Euro's not so big now. Its had it's turn now Lol.

[novadose2009]

You do know Euro's not so big now. Its had it's turn now Lol.

im not following fashion im building a car how i want it.

[db_1.2]

Fair play

[novadose2009]

and car wont be driven hard or fast and doesnt need to be able to go 100mph round a corner just a car that looks the part and makes me happy

and i wont be going around corners fast anyway as i have stretched tyres and im sure they wont take much persuading to pop of rim.

thanks for everyones in put. :thumb:

[MK999]

Brap!

Low and slow is ok, but within reason. Having £400 of coilovers sat on their bumpstops is just foolish IMO!

This is why FK/Pi/raceland etc exist lol I think it's funny when people ask how they'd handle on their trackday cars! Er, missed the point! lol

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and i wont be going around corners fast anyway as i have stretched tyres and im sure they wont take much persuading to pop of rim.
Actually stretched tyres were first fitted to Jap drift cars as it stops the tyres flexing and you get a smoother transition left to right.

[C612DNM]

And if you're being smart, sparking away as you turn into the corner, enjoy the trip into the scenery because sparky metal doesn't grip the road like tyres.

This is why proper lowriders are done with hydraulics/air so they can ride at a sensible height when normal driving, but slam it on the deck when showing/posing.

It's not posey or showey to be on your side in a ditch - you'll look like a cock!

[L14MNP]

You do know Euro's not so big now. Its had it's turn now Lol.

LMAO rep!

Titanium blocks that throw sparks you say? First seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcxYRpJ_n4]here

Dunno if the vid works, I need to install the plugin.

True about the stretch. It isn't a euro thing. Done for exactly the reasons Mark states. I have broke the bead on a couple of occasions when skidding with a bit of stretch mind. lol

[db_1.2]

LMAO rep!

I never got no rep lol. I wouldnt mind as such. But late i was needlessly neg repped by a sernior member :p

[Calamity Josh]

The blocks are in ebay, Here is a example of the blocks: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://jasonsgrainofsalt.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/5042931353_70eafa7172_o.jpg&imgrefurl=http://jasonsgrainofsalt.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/rusty-slammington/&usg=__PrXE-I80Hf-iapewYvl0sk6_izA=&h=1078&w=1440&sz=1357&hl=en&start=10&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=V-BZWwUyza_HJM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drusty%2Bslammington%26um%3D1%26hl%3De n%26safe%3Dvss%26sa%3DN%26sout%3D1%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=2FleTaj0DIaBhQf868SdDQ

And just because a car is low it doesnt mean you have to drive it slow, my brothers golf has about 1" from sill to floor and he still drives fast in it (apart from some really bumpy roads)

[peester]

wise to check rack/track rods/bearings/sump and manifold clearance/angles too

[Stuart]

you can raise the top of the coilover mounts as much as you like to get the travel back..... only issue is you may start sitting the car on the beam when going over a bump/loading the suspension up, which is never fun.

The exhaust may need a reroute/thinking about too if you drop the car as far as you are planning.

[novadose2009]

The exhaust may need a reroute/thinking about too if you drop the car as far as you are planning.

thinking about it unless i had i side exit how would i be able to route the exhaust past the rear axel?.

good point thanks :thumb:

[Stuart]

depends how low you are going, with a note that you still need some suspension travel before parts hit the chassis. You may get away with a flat section exhaust, or add an extra silencer and exit just before the passenger side rear wheel, or cut the fuel tank down and have the exit over the rear beam etc

[novadose2009]

will find out once i raise turrets and drop the car further, also the axel wil hit the tank or spare wheel well will it not if lowered to much.

[L14MNP]

I never got no rep lol. I wouldnt mind as such. But late i was needlessly neg repped by a sernior member :p

Fixed! :d

[db_1.2]

Fixed! :d

Why thank you young man!

[mowgli]

i always thought the bmw batmobiles were where it started....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3351/4601988578_d856e264c3_m.jpg

[Benn]

Unless you tub the arches you are limited.

See here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Crap/fear9206029.jpg

Doesn't seem right, would think it would be lower from this side...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/bennh/Crap/fears9206024-1.jpg

[L14MNP]

Dave must have took the pixels out of the back now? lol

[Benn]

Think he is a busy man... But then other pics you can see alot more ;)

[Mieran]

small diameter wheels is the answer