how low can the saloons go?

[jodla]

On the forum there's few guys with -100 or -110 rear springs

Octagon Paul's
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs732.ash1/162639_10150096393767456_647722455_7290497_7497558 _n.jpg

or Dr Kauffman's
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181750_10150409013920724_867945723_17357957_374845 5_n.jpg

but they're not really slammed are they?

All respect to the guys above, rides are still very cool, but if someone wants to go lower then what???

anyone seen -1x0? springs?

custom rear beams?

turrets are the only way?

no springs? how low do they sit without srpings?

what's the lowest solution without airbags? or major welding(uni-no time)

what's THE lowest nova on here..? Anyone had some diffferent solutions over the years?

,J

[Bubba]

they could sit on the floor....literally if you did a body drop

[Jack]

Slammed. lol

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/Cars/Project%20Ghey/JacksNova01.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/Cars/Project%20Ghey/07012007005.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/Cars/Project%20Ghey/07012007003.jpg

[jodla]

Slammed. lol



this looks pretty low, what have you done? :-)

[Nobby]

meh any lower than the above and they will lok **** and drive like a turd until you the first man hole then youll be advertising for a new engine after you ave run it dry lol

[jodla]

nevermind how they will look, and if they drive anything softer than rigid then it's fine. just like some guys saying "oo ye coilovers damn, -120 harsh uuu" and actually slam coilovers are comfy ride, even maxed out to -120 they still have travel.

its just that none of the slam ones can go -120 on the rear ..originaly

so im just wondering if anyone did it with other springs (more than -110) and who went lowest

:-)

[Hobbit]

Burgo shows how low it can go here...Clicky (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147343)

[Asa-James]

Iirc Austin had a custom rear beam on his beige saloon, that sat well :)

[Jack]

this looks pretty low, what have you done? :-)
Removed the rear suspension lol

[Danny s-p]

mine looked lower on the back compared to the first few pics and that was droped by 60 mm

http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx20/dannys-p08/nova%20saloon/Photo-0219.jpg

[bai1ey]

custom coils will make them to you spec.
if you get in touch with them they might be able to make a new set of springs that will fit over the adjustable platform on a coilover kits so you have A amount of adjustability on them. can only but ask

[Southie]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/06-11-096.jpg

[kiwinova]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/06-11-096.jpg

Wow!!! Is all I have to say lol

Love it

[MK999]

Actually, it's sat a little high in that pic ;)

[Southie]

Actually, it's sat a little high in that pic ;)
Couldn't find the lowered version lol

[MK999]

Couldn't find the lowered version lol

It's because the useless fcuker hasn't started it yet! lol

Static ride height as per design is 100mm floor to sills, it's sat about 150 in that pic iirc.

[Southie]

It's because the useless fcuker hasn't started it yet! lol

Static ride height as per design is 100mm floor to sills, it's sat about 150 in that pic iirc.
This is all I remember lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/Novachassis.jpg

[blue_peg_16v]

mines lowered 100mm but its running 17s so not that low to the ground lol

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm71/richardmee/12072009154.jpg

[tommy8252]

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q248/tommy8252/IMAG0041.jpg

Mines lowered 80mm all round on 15s. Soon to be 100mm.

[octagonalpaul]

Saloons can go lower than hatches as there arches are high up ;)
without any springs in the rear they sit about -120mm from stock, not sure about front. To get really low at the front, you need different top mounts (or weld strut towers higher) and coilovers with a thread that goes a long way down! To get the rear lower you need to start cutting into more parts..

Mine is about -130mm front and -100 rear, was -110 but I like a bit of rake.

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9601/slammednova2078.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs460.snc3/26291_405389567455_647722455_4976689_3938034_n.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2913/pict0073d.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3829/pict0078id.jpg

[Balley]

PM burgo or look at his WIP thread

[Southie]

As regards to hatchbacks, aviiiit lol

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv31/fassty/IMGP0035.jpg

[Plug]

my hatch went quite low on the short bodied gaz coilovers,

Im sure someone had a pic from billing

[General Baxter]

have it, hatch 110+ lol

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/Nova%205%20door/SDC10306.jpg

[General Baxter]

no idea on this, but its a nice stance lol

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a191/baxters83/nova%20saloon/113.jpg

[jodla]

Saloons can go lower than hatches as there arches are high up ;)
without any springs in the rear they sit about -120mm from stock, not sure about front. To get really low at the front, you need different top mounts (or weld strut towers higher) and coilovers with a thread that goes a long way down! To get the rear lower you need to start cutting into more parts..



What's limiting it? Beam? or inner arches?



.....great responses guys :d

[Count Vaux Alot]

The beam fouls the chassis iirc

[MK999]

beam on the exhaust is first issue, then wheel well I think, then chassis legs?

[novadose2009]

heres my saloon ( NO ENGINE IN BTW )

It sit on GAZ Gold SHort Bodied Fully Adjustable Coilovers, At The Rear It Is On The Stops, So Its As Low As I Can Get It.

The Wheels Are 16 7.5j But With A Super Stretched 165 40 16 Tyre Making The Overall Diamter Smaller Then The Stock 13 135 70 The Car Came On Heres Some Pics Hope This Helps.

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/30461_133573033332965_100000408061525_265093_54381 98_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/38349_138939932796275_100000408061525_291465_66773 17_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/34955_138939986129603_100000408061525_291466_66003 4_n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/34955_138939996129602_100000408061525_291469_65209 32_n.jpg

[Count Vaux Alot]

My saloon was quite low but there was about another inch of adjustment in the rear as I had turreted it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/My%20car%20profile/DSC00120.jpg

[novadose2009]

My saloon was quite low but there was about another inch of adjustment in the rear as I had turreted it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/My%20car%20profile/DSC00120.jpg

wow thats your mate?

ive got the retro car magazine in my room and poster of ur car on my wall respect.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Yep it was mine wish I hadn't sold it but hayho - I had enough travel out back to lower the beam until it touched the car itself and the arches were flaired so the rear wheels would tuck. The front wouldn't go much lower though as the coilovers were standard avos.

[novadose2009]

Yep it was mine wish I hadn't sold it but hayho - I had enough travel out back to lower the beam until it touched the car itself and the arches were flaired so the rear wheels would tuck. The front wouldn't go much lower though as the coilovers were standard avos.

how much - drop did you gain from turreting mate and did you do anything else at the rear as im on the stops and want it lower or be able to raise suspention a bit and gain some movement.

[jodla]

not a simple car to slam huh? :tard:

please keep them and infos coming :d

[stevie-p]

how much - drop did you gain from turreting mate and did you do anything else at the rear as im on the stops and want it lower or be able to raise suspention a bit and gain some movement. trim the bumpstops down bro.

[burgo]

with the sills 100mm off the floor the chassis legs are only 50 mm

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a226/sclurgess/pv%20project/SAM_0846.jpg

[novadose2009]

trim the bumpstops down bro.

I have cut the fronts in half but the rears dont look like they would be very strong if i cut them down as there rather small already.

[Johnny A]

Chassis at its lowest point is 3.8 inches:
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/20544_447454135213_816535213_10964786_588992_n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/20544_447438025213_816535213_10964667_7184612_n.jp g

[Southie]

/\/\ Have you still got that saloon then?

[jodla]

Chassis at its lowest point is 3.8 inches:
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/20544_447454135213_816535213_10964786_588992_n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/20544_447438025213_816535213_10964667_7184612_n.jp g

3.8" where? btw:d

[MK999]

with the sills 100mm off the floor the chassis legs are only 50 mm

If that was aimed at simps project spec, what chassis legs? lol

[jodla]

http://images39.fotosik.pl/276/4894919d4619fe30med.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl)

so specialists, nevermind that this is a VT, what drop do you think that is at the back? 150mm? possible for springs?

:confused:

[nova-taken]

does tha actually have any springs fitted?? :confused:

[istf]

Damn... I like it! Do you have more picture about it? :)

[octagonalpaul]

Its a photoshop of his own car lol

I'd say looks around -140mm rear and -130mm front
The rear sits just slightly higher than that with no springs, so you'd have to move the turrets, and modify the rear swingarm to get it that low, most likely.

You can get the front like in the picture by getting some coilovers that go down -120mm, and remove the helper springs. You may need different top mounts but I think it should go that low without moving the strut towers. Would probably ride quite badly though

[istf]

Its a photoshop of his own car lol
...
FAIL lol

I don't have enough post to link an url, but i find a Russian page. The guys were modified a Lada 21099 to radical low with modified turret. :roll:

[novadose2009]

Chassis at its lowest point is 3.8 inches:
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/20544_447454135213_816535213_10964786_588992_n.jpg
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/20544_447438025213_816535213_10964667_7184612_n.jp g

do i notice some rather raised rear turrets :D would like to hear more about the turreting process from this, car looks good :thumb:

[istf]

I subscribed for the SOD2 project. It's very interesting :)

[novadose2009]

had a look through it earlier hope updated pics will be updated soon looks awesome.

[tony k]

My saloon was quite low but there was about another inch of adjustment in the rear as I had turreted it

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/My%20car%20profile/DSC00120.jpg

sorry to spam what wheels are they love em

[novadose2009]

sorry to spam what wheels are they love em

there whey kings mate german import wheels

[The Simps]

I took loads of pics when I started cutting mine up of how far you could drop etc. I'll dig them out later and post them up.

Bare in mind there is a difference between slamming the sills to the floor and stuffing the wheel in the arch. A car can be -140mm on 17s but still be a way of the floor ;)

[MK999]

I took loads of pics when I started cutting mine up of how far you could drop etc. I'll dig them out later and post them up.

Bare in mind there is a difference between slamming the sills to the floor and stuffing the wheel in the arch. A car can be -140mm on 17s but still be a way of the floor ;)

100mm to the sills is where it's at! :d

edit: In fact isn't that on 17's too? Can't remember what your mistrals are now ;p 235 40 17's?

[The Simps]

mistrals are 17s yeah and think we done it on 215/35s.

Now hunting out these pics....

[The Simps]

Firstly, on the picture posted previously with the 17s fitted. At that height tucked into the arch the wheel would of sat as so....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/09-12-09.jpg


So as you can see its not possible on std inner arches.

[The Simps]

Fronts would of had a similar problem....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/01-12-095.jpg

[The Simps]

Original pic for reference....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/06-11-096.jpg

[The Simps]

So with 195/45 16s at this height...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/25-10-097.jpg


Which is front wishbone inner mounting points something like 4" off the ground and this kind of gap on an sr bumper....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/25-10-096.jpg


Its sits on the inner arches like so...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/25-10-094.jpg

[MK999]

Your arches might need more work than we thought lol Unless you mount the body higher, but thats no fun lol

[The Simps]

I'd originally tubbed my rears and ran the coilovers a few inches higher...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/04-04-097a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/04-04-0913.jpg


And had this ride height but anymore the beam would be touching the chassis. I dont think this height would of work on the road tbh but was ok just pushing the car about...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08018.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08017.jpg


Hatch arch comparison....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/30-12-08019.jpg

[Bubba]

lower i tell thee...lower :p

if that was a hatch it would have orgasmic rim tuck :p

[The Simps]

This might be of useful reference. At this point the tyre was hitting the top of the inner arch. Was 205/40 16s tho...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/05-05-084.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-081.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/19-04-083.jpg

[The Simps]

This was with a std nova coilover with no spring or bump stop....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/27-03-096.jpg

[The Simps]

lower i tell thee...lower :p


The cool thing is that this photo was at something like 130mm sill height and we've gone 100mm. Fronts will certainly be interesting modding!! lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/06-11-096.jpg

[The Simps]

This would just about roll and turn but I wouldnt want to drive it on anything but smooth surface and rock hard settings....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/12072009192.jpg

[The Simps]

Hope that helps :D

[MK999]

The cool thing is that this photo was at something like 130mm sill height and we've gone 100mm. Fronts will certainly be interesting modding!! lol

Front of the shell is a pretty moot point tbh, most of it won't be there and the rest will be designed to fit lol

[burgo]

lower wheels is where its at, none of this arch clearance rubbish

[blue_peg_16v]

The cool thing is that this photo was at something like 130mm sill height and we've gone 100mm. Fronts will certainly be interesting modding!! lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/TheSimps/Nova/Nova%20Coupe%20Project/06-11-096.jpg


ah 17in mistrals give lol

[MK999]

I've just noticed they're 5 stud, we've done your design on 4x100 you utter mong! lol

[supersaloon81]

Here mine . Not the lowest
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv96/supersaloon_81/cb8dbb44.jpg

[blue_peg_16v]

thats the dam car that made me want mistrals but finding 17s in 4 stud is a fecking nightmare

[supersaloon81]

thats the dam car that made me want mistrals but finding 17s in 4 stud is a fecking nightmare


A just sold them to my mate for his van . Made him sign something to say a get them back when sells van lol

[blue_peg_16v]

ye very nice wheels went to a show at knockhill a few years ago and saw it there looked well, like the senikas i have but wouldnt mind the mistrals so i can swap and change

[Mark]

Quite low...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/NovaSaloon/3875379f.jpg

And yes, suspension is fitted.

[The Simps]

I've just noticed they're 5 stud, we've done your design on 4x100 you utter mong! lol

Its ok! I had a 5 stud set & 2 4 stud sets. The 5 studs were on the vectra for a while then sold the to have the LM reps. Ive got the 2 sets in 4 stud left. Set of 5 in 17" and set of 4 in 16".

[MK999]

Its ok! I had a 5 stud set & 2 4 stud sets. The 5 studs were on the vectra for a while then sold the to have the LM reps. Ive got the 2 sets in 4 stud left. Set of 5 in 17" and set of 4 in 16".

Ah I should have known you'd have some 4's in your collection of Mistrals lol

2 sets of 4 stud 17's?

Wets and Dry's then :) Just need your 2nd set of each and 2 sets of inters now lol