Compbrake adjustable top mount assembly

[Edd]

I've got some top mounts like these

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/d089fcb0.jpg

To fit to these shocks

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/bc2cf446.jpg

No instructions with them :roll: Compbrake say no insturctions due to different shocks coilovers etc

Is this the correct way they go together ?

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/28abc75b.jpg

Pic with the top mount fitted

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/78e267df.jpg

Or am I totally wrong lol guessing none of the GM top mount is used, as far as I can gather is a flo flex spring seat is fitted with the spring underneath the top mount

Can get further pics if needed

Any help I would really appreciate it

Edd

[peester]

do you need to actually fit all the nuts?
I thought the deeper/spacer one goes last -at the top. :confused:

[Pistol Pete]

The 2 thin collars. It looks like you just need those either side of the mount. The the top nut. No need for the nut collar.

But thats my thinking! lol

[peester]

afaik iainel has these top mounts too - fitted them up himself, recently..
Mine were done about 3 years back

[Edd]

I have no idea tbh lol

The deep spacer has thread inside but is too large to be threaded on to the shock

Does seem over kill having them all on there

There's quite a few ways it could be put together :roll: lol

[peester]

nah i agree, quite a jigsaw for three pieces lol..

Good choice of parts though - with polybushes should handle like a biatch

[Edd]

I got all poly bushes for the front so yeah should be nice

This is my other option ????

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/85ed47b6.jpg

[Pistol Pete]

Thats the way i would have done it Edd.

[peester]

yeah thats it - then the nut youve left on the table i think is meant to go in place of the nyloc thats on the top of the shock - maybe for coilover users..?
Ide run it as in the pic; with the nyloc. Nice n tight. Hope its a stainless nyloc..?

[Pistol Pete]

The nut spacer is the wrong diameter for the strut rod. I'd fit it to the bin lol

[MARTIN KELSON]

I would have gone for how you had it in your origonal 3rd picture but without the top collar beneath the nut.

Small collar at the bottom, large collar at the top as that supports the bearing then the nut.

Martin

[Edd]

Yep stainless nut being fitted lol

Thanks very much for your help guys :)

[Edd]

I would have gone for how you had it in your origonal 3rd picture but without the top collar beneath the nut.

Small collar at the bottom, large collar at the top as that supports the bearing then the nut.

Martin
Mmmmm

Like this ?

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr359/EDDRODGERS/0bd8a8de.jpg

What a nightmare lol you would of thought £115 top mounts would come with fitting instructions ffs

[MARTIN KELSON]

Yea i think thats how i would have put them together.

Sure thats how mine are put together :)

[Edd]

That longer spacer/nut has thread inside and is not as tight fit to the shock as the smaller one tho ?

[Iain]

I'm a little confused Edd, usually you bolt the topmount on over the coilover top spring platform - I can't see where your spring will seat at the top with that on?

I've never seen them fitted to non-coilover struts.

[Mike]

^just said what Im thinking TBH.

[MARTIN KELSON]

I have a spring locator under mine

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a220/NOVAMARTIN16V/416.jpg

Cant remember if they came as part of the top mount or not, sorry.

[Rick Draper]

IIRC you cannot use eccentric top mounts with anything other than coilovers.

Therefore either return them and get concentric ones or get some coilovers.

[MARTIN KELSON]

IIRC you cannot use eccentric top mounts with anything other than coilovers.

Therefore either return them and get concentric ones or get some coilovers.

Now you mention it Rick, i think you may be correct :)

[Iain]

Concentric ones are the same design only non-adjustable aren't they?

Here's mine on Gaz coilovers, same as Martins you can see a spring platform for the spring to seat in:
http://iainel.co.uk/images/forums/NovaWIP2/640.JPG

You could maybe see if you can utilize the lower half of the standard topmount to get them to fit?

[Rick Draper]

The diameter of the spring prevents the eccentric top mount been used on a standard sized nova front turret.

[mk1nova_rich]

Iain - a concentric mount means the bore is in the centre as per the standard mount. The adjustability in the eccentric mounts is from the bore being offset from the centre.

[peester]

ooh hadent thought of that.. concentric/eccentric

[Edd]

Uh oh :(

So I can't use them then ffs ? Waited 3 weeks for them and only got them as GM top mount bits are NLS

I thought that by fitting these Flo Flex damper bushes http://www.floflex.co.uk/shopping_cart.php?sort=2a they would fit but thinking about it those bushes are not going to be able just to sit on the top mount :(

Looks like I've fooked up then :roll: lol

Don't want coilovers, too harsh, don't want it to be that low, plus I want them Bilsteins on there

Looks like I'm a little stuck ?

[Edd]

Mmm thinking about what Iain posted

Am I going to be able to use part of the OE mount to hold the spring then fit the top mount ?

Or scrap the Compbrake idea totally and fit OE stuff ?

[Novasport]

Which part is NLS Edd? TBH I would stick with OE unless you are going on track.
Might be wrong but I feel solid top mount would put extra strain on the turrets and create a harsher ride and would not outweigh any benefit you are going to gain from fitting these.

[mk1nova_rich]

How about just using concentric mounts instead Edd? Then you won't have spring clearance issues...

[Edd]

Can't remember think it was the bush that goes it the center ?

I'll check tomorrow

:( £115 wasted

[Edd]

How about just using concentric mounts instead Edd? Then you won't have spring clearance issues...
Still no where for the spring to sit tho as far as I know

Pissed off with it all now, got all front end bits from powdercoating so thi is holding me up

[Novasport]

AFAIK all bits are still available as they are the same as a Corsa

[Rick Draper]

Coilovers are less harsh than top mounts. IMHO i would run coilovers on stock top mounts rather than stock shocks on concentric mounts.

[mk1nova_rich]

If you need any parts machining let me know and I'll see what I can do :thumb:

[Edd]

AFAIK all bits are still available as they are the same as a Corsa
Didn't know they were the same as Corsa ones tbh

Off to Vauxhall tomorrow then

Think I'll have to scrap this idea ffs

[Rick Draper]

Concentric top mounts can be used with stock size springs as you can fit the standard top spring seat in the middle of the turret.

A eccentric top mount does not allow for this as due to the nature of the top mount been offset the larger diameter spring in comparison to a coilover means it interferes with the chassis.

[Edd]

Thank for all the replies everyone

Mmmmm I'm now confused what to do

Either send them back and exchange for concentric ones ?

Or go OE ?

Opinions and thoughts ?

[phunkynova]

I've just fitted these top mounts to my Nova. But I only got the 4 short spacers and not the long ones.
I fitted them to a coil over set up and needed only one spacers per coil over, being fitted at the top to make a good fit between the adjustable top and the strut rod.
Czech it out Nova Rallyx (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147449)

If look here you will see the top mounts. hope this help you.

[Mieran]

I had these on my Koni non coilover suspension, the lad I bought the car from made his own aluminium spacer that goes between the bush holding the spring and the top mount

no pics though

[Novasport]

OE
for me
:thumb:

[Edd]

Had a little look today, think I could use part of the OE spring seat and fit it under the top mount, I'll deffo know tomorrow when have more time

Compbrake say I can exchange them for Concentric/fixed ones but have to wait 5/6 weeks :eek: as there out of stock, I want it on the road by then lol

Parts chap day off down Vauxhall so no joy there either :roll:

[Edd]

OE
for me
:thumb:

F lol

I'm swaying that way tbh

Are these type of top mounts known for being harsh on the turrets then ?

[Southie]

I know it's not much use Edd but the part you've "not" used is what I had to buy when fitting my concentric mounts.

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p379/SOUTHIE01/MINE/IMG_0094.jpg

[Novasport]

Parts chap day off down Vauxhall so no joy there either :roll:

Got a Vauxhall parts desk about 20 yards from where I sit now and I get parts at cost plus 10%, oh yeah!
Going to settle in the new job first then get the list out:d
Got to pursaude them to give me acces to Channel 21 :thumb:

[Edd]

What's channel 21 ?

You working at Vauxhall now ?

[Novasport]

No Peugeot but the dealer next door is Vauxhall which is part of the same group.