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Adam
11-02-11, 03:32 PM
As above. My brother wants a car he's seen, but its not mot'd, taxed or insured. Is it legal to tow it home with my astra? Tow as in tow eye and tow rope. I'm thinking its not an ok thing to do.....

kiwinova
11-02-11, 03:34 PM
simple answer nolol

brownbear
11-02-11, 03:45 PM
Nope. As long as the wheels are on the public highway in a state of drive or not it has to meet the legal requirements.

bazil
11-02-11, 03:48 PM
Do not pass go, Do not collect £200...................

Edd
11-02-11, 03:55 PM
Depends where you are IMO lol :d

Cops round here would never check or stop you

I've towed cars to and from my mums in the country lots of times lol

Ideally a car trailer is needed to be legal

sport
11-02-11, 04:02 PM
Oops my sport got towed from Liverpool back to mine ;)

calibra-keith
11-02-11, 04:17 PM
Not really worth risking long distance, done it loads short distance round my area and never had a problem, shouldn't be using a rope as far as i know it should be bar now, borrow a trailer or a-frame/dolly. i was lead to believe as soon as a wheel touches the floor that car needs to be taxed, but then i have been told if 2 wheels are lifted and only 2 are on floor (a-frame/dolly) then the car towing it covers it ???

tricky one and most people reaplys will be different i suppose

Southie
11-02-11, 04:52 PM
Pretty much everything you need in this NTTA Guide regarding safey and legalities regarding trailers >LINK (http://www.ntta.co.uk/downloads/SafeLegalTowingShort.pdf)<

Also here's the site >LINK2 (http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/)<

Adam
11-02-11, 09:02 PM
So plenty of people do it, but it is illegal lol

I thought it would be tbh, just because the car would need roadworthy steering/brakes etc.

Hmm, thats that idea fooked then.

Rickardo
11-02-11, 09:03 PM
If its on an A frame, you can tow a car... Well i hope so, because we are doing it tomorrow.

John
11-02-11, 09:03 PM
where is it ad?

Adam
11-02-11, 09:10 PM
Bentilee mate, IIRC.

John
11-02-11, 09:10 PM
right across town then lol

AlexW
11-02-11, 09:11 PM
If its on an A frame, you can tow a car... Well i hope so, because we are doing it tomorrow.

If even one wheel is on the road, It has to be MOT'ed, Taxed and insured.

John
11-02-11, 09:12 PM
If even one wheel is on the road, It has to be MOT'ed, Taxed and insured.

@ Rich (blue peg) lol

Adam
11-02-11, 09:13 PM
right across town then lol
Depends where from mate, from you yeah lol

Few mile from me old mans tho :)

John
11-02-11, 09:14 PM
I meant right through "rozzer" central lol

gazz
11-02-11, 09:21 PM
If even one wheel is on the road, It has to be MOT'ed, Taxed and insured.

How you work that out? As people weigh in scrap cars on these and also at my local oval track, people bring there race cars in on these..

(A frame's and Dollys are legal)

Adam
11-02-11, 09:22 PM
I meant right through "rozzer" central lol
lol lol

AlexW
11-02-11, 09:35 PM
How you work that out? As people weigh in scrap cars on these and also at my local oval track, people bring there race cars in on these..

(A frame's and Dollys are legal)

I don't "work it out", Its the law. Any car on the public road has to be MOT'ed, Taxed and Insured. Its the same for cars parked at the side of the road. If any wheel is touching the road, It must be fully road legal as said.

If all wheels are off the road (On a trailer), its fine.

A-frames and dollys are legal if the car is fully legal.

Southie
11-02-11, 09:48 PM
Alex, find a link to justify your explanation or you'll be shot down in flames ;)

bazil
11-02-11, 09:57 PM
Also depends on your driving liecence, ie if you passed your test fairly recently you will not be legally allowed to tow a trailer over 750kg, so a dolly and nova and driver may weigh more than that,

no towing liecence, no tax, no mot, no insurance COULD all be charges if you get a policeman that knows traffic law.

Southie
11-02-11, 09:59 PM
Pretty much everything you need in this NTTA Guide regarding safey and legalities regarding trailers >LINK (http://www.ntta.co.uk/downloads/SafeLegalTowingShort.pdf)<

Also here's the site >LINK2 (http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/)<
Just going to quote this incase people miss the links ;)

AlexW
11-02-11, 10:01 PM
CBA to search for links, Its not my license on the line. Plenty about it online though.

ChrisMk1
11-02-11, 10:53 PM
As far as I know,

If towing a car on a dolly. The car being towed has to have legal tyres ONLY.
The dolly makes the car a trailer (as no-one is sat behind the steering wheel.)
You are not using any of the vehicles systems, so NO MOT REQUIRED.

The towing car HAS to have its number plate & light board on the rear of the towed car.(for other road users to see)

Licence wise- If you passed your test before 1997 then you can tow a trailer & drive up to a 7.5t truck (not at the same time!)
If you passed your test after that, you need to take a trailer test to tow trailers over 750kg.

Ex HGV Artic truckie & towing project Astra about for yonkslol
Chris

L14MNP
12-02-11, 12:11 PM
I'll leave these here (again)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Con2K/Ford%20Racing%20Puma/DSC07116.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Con2K/Ford%20Racing%20Puma/DSC07119.jpg

Cat C, so obviously no insurance, MOT or tax. Newcastle to Hereford. No issues.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Con2K/Random/DSC00990.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/Con2K/Random/DSC00991.jpg

Nottingham to Durham.

I only have a standard car licence. Shhhh lol.


As has been mentioned on here, it's possible. Just be careful.
I wouldn't worry about rural roads.

Iain
12-02-11, 01:04 PM
Is that the layby I think it is lol

L14MNP
12-02-11, 01:51 PM
Is that the layby I think it is lol

It is. :mad:

faker
12-02-11, 01:55 PM
Tow dollies are legal only for the use of removing a vehicle which is disabled/broken down, and not permitted to exceed 40 mph. When towing a vehicle weighing more than 750 kilos the dolly has to have working brakes or a system of applying the braking system on the vehicle being towed. The vehicle being towed on a dolly is not deemed to be driven but classed as a trailer and as such an extension of the towing vehicle, both must be road legal but the towing vehicle remains responsible for any incidents.

When towing a vehicle on a rope, the vehicle must be mot'd, taxed and insured, the person in control of the steering and braking of the vehicle being towed must hold a drivers licence and will be deemed as driving the vehicle being towed. the towed vehicle must have insurance as it is not classed as a trailer or extension of the towing vehicle. Should a component on the vehicle being towed fail and cause it to collide with any other object or property then the towing vehicle would not be responsible, the driver - in control of the vehicle being towed will be deemed responsible.

Clear as mud......

L14MNP
12-02-11, 02:03 PM
You gotta stay legal. :)

http://images112.fotki.com/v589/photos/9/1133479/8902618/IMG_0545-vi.jpg
http://images112.fotki.com/v502/photos/9/1133479/8902618/IMG_0548-vi.jpg

faker
12-02-11, 02:08 PM
sorry chum but that volvo has no master cylinder, therefore no brakes, let alone lights. tow bar does not constitute a braking system. I assume your having a laugh!!!

L14MNP
12-02-11, 02:12 PM
I was taking the p!ss! lol It had a handbrake. lol

We took it to the closest yard, about 3 miles away to stick it over the bridge.
Fcuk hiring a trailer for that. My seatbelt was the best. I had cut them out to lift the engine with, so it ended up being tied to the A pillar and the other end sat on. Not that a missing seatbelt would have been my biggest concern had we been stopped....

It was sketchy as tbh. Positive camber and no weight over the front axle made if very floaty.

It's not the worst I have towed/been towed in though. Took a Primera about 25 miles down the A1 on a soild bar in a similar state. This was without driveshafts, so nothing to stop the hubs coming apart. lol

L14MNP
12-02-11, 02:17 PM
Nice edit!:p lol