how many miles ???

[Dervy]

just a little bit of research for myself, tell me what your daily driver (and engine) is, and how many miles it will do on average on £20 of fuel, also just for the info how much is the fuel where you live??? :d

[db_1.2]

Sprinter 3.5 LWB van, 2.9TD.

20 quid? Hmmm 60 if I'm lucky.

1.36 a litre

[MK999]

Not sure on mileage as I just found out it has the evil heart of a corsa as of 2006. Last time I checked it did 53MPG with a leaky tank although consumption seems to have gone up a bit since I got used to the car and a bit more confident etc lol So probably:

1.5TD
~135 miles on £20
at £1.34/l
which is 3.33 Gallons
at 40-45MPG

[AlexW]

Corsa B 1.0 12v, Getting about 42mpg, Mix of around town and motorways.

Fuel here is £1.28, CBA to work out how many miles I'm getting to £20

[Hoochie]

Peugeot 206 Gti
£20........60 ish miles
fuel..........£1.31

[bainyboy sr]

mercedes c200 1.8 superchaged the way i drive i average bout 18.9 lucky if i get 60 miles lol

[Rich]

£20 at about £1.36 per litre gets me about 50 miles

astra gsi z20let

[alan1028moore]

Touran 1.9 TD 130bhp appox 170 miles on a long journey and around about 100-120 around town.:thumb:
Asda is about 1.30 at the minute here in Omagh

[Bubba]

audi 80 2.0 8v

20quid...70 if im lucky its only a 3 mile drive to work...so i use ALOT. hence the reason gettin me a bike

[pikey1986]

1.7td (gm lump)
£20 deisel gets me about 150-200mile
cba with mpg but it ranges from about 24-45mpg

[xe Dan]

astra c20let 180miles to £65 ouch

[Jack]

Nova V6
£20 @ 125.9 = 15.89l = 3.49g x 26mpg = 91 miles

Celica ST205
£20 @ 137.9 = 14.5l = 3.19g x 23mpg = 73 miles

Fuel prices as per the last time I filled up - Nova about mid Jan (Asda 95), Celica on Monday (VPower)

[steviegsi]

E34 525i touring - £20 @ around £1.30p/l = 65-70 miles usually.

92 astra Gsi 16v - £20 = about 90 miles.

All depends more on where I get petrol rather than the actual price. Tesco and sainsburys petrol is pure shlte so I haven't been using it for about a year.

[Dervy]

cheers gays this is all very interesting for a boring person like me lol
Rich- ouch on the 50 miles, have we a lead foot :)
pikey1986- thats impressive but go isuzu trust me :)
jack- cheers for the mpg formula

[General Baxter]

is that all lol

i see 50mpg from cold lol

[Ben]

astra cdti 150 with dtuk box so roughly 200bhp

£20 worth fuel will see about 180-220 miles fuel is about £1.05 litre here Car averages between 44-49mpg

[Dervy]

are you s**ting me diesel is £1.05, the cheapest round here £1.28

[MK999]

are you s**ting me diesel is £1.05, the cheapest round here £1.28

Note that "here" for him, is Antwerp, Belgium.

[Ben]

I tell no lies (well not in this thread)

[alan1028moore]

Must be running the RED at that price.:cool:
I travelled to Italy by road last summer, including Belgium and most of Europe was all the same apart from Switzerland which was a good bit cheaper

[Mike]

No bens just in antwerp......

Corsa C 1.7Di an £20 will do about 230miles easily. Regulary do 500+ to £50ish.

At home fuel is about £1.31 for diesel, up here its about 134ish or 144 from a motorway service.

[Dervy]

yea it just goes to show that we in england get royally screwed on fuel duty and tax :(

[Mike]

Pah **** the man, I regularly empty my dads generators of cherryade for my own use.

[Dervy]

lol

[Jack]

yea it just goes to show that we in england get royally screwed on fuel duty and tax :(
We're bang in the middle for the at-pump cost of fuel in Europe

[Dervy]

really ??? so who has more expensive fuel then us then ?

[Mazz]

Audi A4 1.9 TDI

£20 = 170 miles

£1.29 p.l here

[Ben]

yea it just goes to show that we in england get royally screwed on fuel duty and tax :(

Bear in mind the Belgian people have to pay increased road tax for derv's hence the cheaper price at the pump. But mine is a UK registered car so im not subject to this.

Average road tax a year here is around £5-700.

Still feel bad off?

[Ben]

We're bang in the middle for the at-pump cost of fuel in Europe

I would say the Unleaded and Super are pretty much like for like.

[Lee H]

Corsa C20XE.

£20 gets me 110 miles at £1.28 litre.

[paddy quinn]

nova td
90-100 bhp estimate
good fuel mileage as car goes no were

[Damo]

Nova C20XE

£20 99 octane momentum stuff@ £1.32.9 = 15.14lt = 100miles.

[davidfox280585]

just a little bit of research for myself, tell me what your daily driver (and engine) is, and how many miles it will do on average on £20 of fuel, also just for the info how much is the fuel where you live??? :d

cavalier td,
650 miles to £20
45ltr used engine oil and 15 ltr diesel at £1.30:thumb:

[Peanut_119]

cavalier 1.8 spi
116 miles to £20
petrol @ £1.26

[bazil]

311 miles to £76 @ £1.36 p/ltr V-POWER lollollol

[Damo]

cavalier td,
650 miles to £20
45ltr used engine oil and 15 ltr diesel at £1.30:thumb:

Pikey man kisser ;) lol.

[davidfox280585]

Pikey man kisser ;) lol.
too right!!!!!!!!!!
not the man kisser bit but yes i do run the cav on free engine oil from trevlol

[Yorkie]

Nova 1.2 and it will get me near enuff 130 miles 150 if i push it :D, cheapest around is sainsburys at £1.23, but you already know all this dont you sam :)




cheers gays this is all very interesting for a boring person like me lol
Rich- ouch on the 50 miles, have we a lead foot :)
pikey1986- thats impressive but go isuzu trust me :)
jack- cheers for the mpg formula


How dare you, not everyones gay sam! :p

[Damo]

too right!!!!!!!!!!
not the man kisser bit but yes i do run the cav on free engine oil from trevlol

Lol why not cheaper then the pumps.

[Adam]

2.0 16v mk4 Astra

£20 gets me about 70mile


£1.25/L

[davidfox280585]

Lol why not cheaper then the pumps.
im just tight so running on 75% engine oil 25% derv is the future,reusing waste oil and doing good for the enviromentlol

[L14MNP]

Fiat Seicento Sporting (lol)
1100cc
150/160 miles from £20. £128ish p/l.

[Dervy]

cavalier td,
650 miles to £20
45ltr used engine oil and 15 ltr diesel at £1.30:thumb:

like you style mate :thumb: thats cheap motoring that is

[L14MNP]

If you can constantly acquire so much used engine oil it sure is!

Fess up Dave, cherry n chip fat! lol

[davidfox280585]

like you style mate :thumb: thats cheap motoring that is
gotta add a few litre of unleaded to thin it down a bit but it chugs away on it ok,idealy a 50%mix doesnt make any difference at all but any more oil then it kicks a bit out setting off at junctions:thumb:

[davidfox280585]

If you can constantly acquire so much used engine oil it sure is!

Fess up Dave, cherry n chip fat! lol
ive never filled it with the colourful stuff;)
but it gets £1.30 diesel(out the truck at worklol ) with oil so in theory costs me next to nothing to runlol

[brake-dust]

frontera 3.2 v6

£1.28 per ltr

50 miles if im lucky sometimes 30 miles depending on how bored i amlol

[Jack]

Nova C20XE

£20 99 octane momentum stuff@ £1.32.9 = 15.14lt = 100miles.
The Tesco fuel? Thats garbage, its only 99RON because they put a 5% ethanol mix in it :mad:

[MattBrown]

The Tesco fuel? Thats garbage, its only 99RON because they put a 5% ethanol mix in it :mad:

Tesco super is the best fuel under 100Ron.

Hence ALL night rally people use it.

[Ben]

lol fuel in NZ was 91 ron and i saw more skylines and evo over there than in a mcdonalds car park on a saturday night!

[Jack]

Tesco super is the best fuel under 100Ron.
Define "best"... if you mean cheapest high-RON fuel, then yes

As said - its 5% ethanol mix, thats the only reason its 99RON. Unfortunately whilst ethanol raises the octane, it lowers the calorific value of the fuel, so there's more "energy" in the likes of VPower (which doesn't use any ethanol last time I checked, which was a few weeks ago lol)

[MK999]

The Tesco fuel? Thats garbage, its only 99RON because they put a 5% ethanol mix in it :mad:

Ethanol is like the 2nd best alternative fuel you can get...

Although it does change the AFR you need so you'd have to remap it to that fuel lol



Define "best"... if you mean cheapest high-RON fuel, then yes

As said - its 5% ethanol mix, thats the only reason its 99RON. Unfortunately whilst ethanol raises the octane, it lowers the calorific value of the fuel, so there's more "energy" in the likes of VPower (which doesn't use any ethanol last time I checked, which was a few weeks ago lol)

It may have a lower calorific value but it's calorific value per molecule, to molecule of oxygen required to burn it is higher than petrol.

[MattBrown]

Define "best"... if you mean cheapest high-RON fuel, then yes

As said - its 5% ethanol mix, thats the only reason its 99RON. Unfortunately whilst ethanol raises the octane, it lowers the calorific value of the fuel, so there's more "energy" in the likes of VPower (which doesn't use any ethanol last time I checked, which was a few weeks ago lol)

Best for power.

Hence they all jumped on the "100 ron rules, use tesco 99" wagon.

[Jack]

Ethanol is like the 2nd best alternative fuel you can get...
That may be, but doesn't make it as good as petrol :p

A non-ethanol mixed fuel will carry more energy than an ethanol mix (even if its only a touch more, its still more), and as it has the same octane as the likes of VPower so can be timed the same, it makes sense that the latter has more power potential. Matt, I guess they just got caught up in teh interweb-style bandwagon of tesco "superfuel", I remember Pistonheads turning into a tesco spotting forum when it first came out lol.

[MK999]

That may be, but doesn't make it as good as petrol :p

It's better... I shall dig out my fuel fact sheet for you lol

[MK1_Ben]

Tesco super is the best fuel under 100Ron.

Hence ALL night rally people use it.

Just so you know, Stage Rally people hardly use it thesedays. The only reason it was popular as Tesco 99 sponsored quite a few Rallies in which all the service fuel pumps ran Tesco 99.

I used it at the time in my ZR rally car and decent 99 you order in is noticeably better.

[MK999]

Right, Petrol, or C8H15 has a heating value of 47300 KJ, Stoichiometric AFR of 14.6 and RON of 92-99

Ethanol, C2H5OH, Heating value of 29710, Stoichiometric AFR of 9.0 and RON of 100.

Per unit of air required to burn petrol produces 3230KJ of energy.

Per unit of air required to burn Ethanol produces 3330KJ of energy.

Nitromethane is an interesting one, with a heating value of 12000KJ and an AFR of 1.7 giving 7508KJ of energy per unit of air, but too readily combusts (there's not even a RON number listed for it)

Methanol is unsurprisingly pretty much the best alternative fuel, giving 3467KJ of energy per unit of air with a RON of 106.

[kevster]

zafira gsi £20= 85 miles
ford focus st £20 = 50 miles (she loves the v-power)
escort van 55 £20 = 190/230 miles
oh yeah nova £10 4 years ago and still in the tank now lol

[RossRog]

i get about 120 miles to £20 quid in my van


(nova van 20xe)

[Adam*D]

new insignia 160 bhp derv, according to the onboard computer round the town averages 37.5mpg, on a run it gets upto 45mpg (nowhere near the 55+mpg I was quoted when I picked the car up!)
If I put £20 in it gets me around 180 miles.

[Ben]

new insignia 160 bhp derv, according to the onboard computer round the town averages 37.5mpg, on a run it gets upto 45mpg (nowhere near the 55+mpg I was quoted when I picked the car up!)
If I put £20 in it gets me around 180 miles.

They are listed as between 47-57mpg so your not doing bad. The 55mpg is probably without going over 3k revs on a run.

[Jack]

Right, Petrol, or C8H15 has a heating value of 47300 KJ, Stoichiometric AFR of 14.6 and RON of 92-99

Ethanol, C2H5OH, Heating value of 29710, Stoichiometric AFR of 9.0 and RON of 100.
Yeeaaass... but an engine thinking it has petrol in it will be aiming for 14.6 AFR - stick ethanol in on that mix and it will be running too lean. So although this...


Per unit of air required to burn petrol produces 3230KJ of energy.

Per unit of air required to burn Ethanol produces 3330KJ of energy.
...looks good, in practise its misleading as the unit of air required to burn that ethanol is smaller. Or rather, in the automotive example, if the amount of air coming in is the same as the petrol engine (which it would be, assuming both engines were the same), you need a lot more fuel to get that. So to get the same performance, economy has to suffer.

The lambda would adjust the mix, but there's only so much fuel you can lob in unless you start changing stuff like fuel pumps etc

[nova_saloon]

i get about 49 mpg if i am sodding careful otherwise about 35mpg in the c20xe nova.

[MK999]

...looks good, in practise its misleading as the unit of air required to burn that ethanol is smaller. Or rather, in the automotive example, if the amount of air coming in is the same as the petrol engine (which it would be, assuming both engines were the same), you need a lot more fuel to get that. So to get the same performance, economy has to suffer.

Oh noes! How will ever get 13mpg on a stage rally now :( lol

[Jack]

It'll be a pain when you run out of fuel halfway through though lol

[draper]

vectra ecotech
£20 gets me around about 100miles
£1.24.9p

[Hobbit]

omega 3.2 v6 = 20mpg lol

[Brodie_Sri]

Golf gt tdi 150 now around 184 bhp
£20 normaly get me around 170 miles £1.33/litre

[Dervy]

well this info has made me pretty happy because i thought my car was not doing very well on fuel but it seems its not as bad as i thought, i put £20 of £1.27 fuel and its already done 100 miles and its only just got into the red and i know it will do 50miles easy in the red :) so not bad i think :)

[draper]

this thread has made me think i need a diesal lol

[Jack]

well this info has made me pretty happy because i thought my car was not doing very well on fuel but it seems its not as bad as i thought, i put £20 of £1.27 fuel and its already done 100 miles and its only just got into the red and i know it will do 50miles easy in the red :) so not bad i think :)
150 miles on £20 @ 127ppl = ~43mpg

[John]

1.4 polo, does about 325-350 miles on a tank of fuel (approx £50 so say 42ish litres)

[burgo]

1L nova = 30mpg lol

[Mike]

Get your OMEX setup to run with 260GT 109RON @ a staggering £4.42+vat a litre & watch those MPG's drop to a miniscule 5 or less lol lol

[Balley]

Not sure on mileage as I just found out it has the evil heart of a corsa as of 2006. Last time I checked it did 53MPG with a leaky tank although consumption seems to have gone up a bit since I got used to the car and a bit more confident etc lol So probably:

1.5TD
~135 miles on £20
at £1.34/l
which is 3.33 Gallons
at 40-45MPG

Love it :)

[Balley]

I got 68MPG out my more door td on a good steady run :) but I averaged 49-53MPG

its £1.32 a litre for Diesel

[blue_peg_16v]

vectra gsi about 90miles round town 120 on a run (got 38mpg out of it down to dorset last time)
corsa 1.2 140ish on lessons
nova turbo depends how im feeling anything from 10-100miles

normal 95ron is 125.9 here

[burgo]

I got 68MPG out my more door td on a good steady run :) but I averaged 49-53MPG

its £1.32 a litre for Dieseli got 70mpg when i first put the 1.7td in my nova, it was completely standard at that point

[Balley]

i got 70mpg when i first put the 1.7td in my nova, it was completely standard at that point

Amazing aint it. have you seen that mk1 golf with the 170bhp 2.0TDi PD engine in it. They say it does 70mpg in normall driving lol

[Mike]

New Passat can allegedly do upto 1k miles on one full tank of 70 odd litres.

[Mieran]

Got 160 the other day mostly motorway and 135 city driving doing short journeys, thats in my Astra coupe

[honie5]

Audi a3 2.0tdi s line
£20 I get about 180-200
130.9

[Lee H]

Modified Civic Type R

100 miles to £20.

£1.37 a litre near me.

[Adam]

So your type R is better on fuel than my ecotec astra lol lol

Last week i did about 200miles on 32L, worked out around 25-26mpg iirc.

[bmw156]

i get about 125 town miles for 20 quid, if not more.

before i have pushed out 350 miles of 40 quid on the a roads...

oh, petrol price is about 126.9 here.

[MK999]

£1.37 a litre near me.

Makes me glad of the self service asda pumps we have up by uni, 129.9/l for diesel yesterday

[Lee H]

So your type R is better on fuel than my ecotec astra lol lol

Last week i did about 200miles on 32L, worked out around 25-26mpg iirc.

Works out about 30mpg so yes it is. Plus i've been driving it hard as its new and some of the fuel was used on the rolling road. Quite surprised myself lol

[bazil]

i m going for a differnt approach, i get 12 hours and 20 mins to a full tank, 60-65 litres, £1.36 / ltr V-power

total of 311 miles lol

[dannyb]

audi 80 2.0 8v

20quid...70 if im lucky its only a 3 mile drive to work...so i use ALOT. hence the reason gettin me a bike

Audi 80 2.0 8V (ABK engine)

£20 will get me 130 miles on my 40 mile a day motorway commute.

£1.26 a litre here.

[dannyb]

£1.37 a litre near me.

Super unleaded diet only?

[Lee H]

Super unleaded diet only?

Yes :cry:

[MK999]

Works out about 30mpg so yes it is. Plus i've been driving it hard as its new and some of the fuel was used on the rolling road. Quite surprised myself lol

Honda! Sips gently at the fuel and spits out 200bhp lol

[Lewis.]

hmmm, my Land Rover will go between 50 and 60 miles to £20 :cry:

to everyone getting 50+ mpg: I hate you.

[Andy_L]

Vectra 2.2 petrol

Roughly 120 miles to £20 quid I reckon around 34 mpg, easy a road driving with no stop start faffing.

£1.26 here

[CoolTiger]

106gti
120miles to £20
petty = £1.30

[Southie]

C16xe Nova 3 door hartache lol

£20 V Power @ 135.8

110 miles > steady driving at night when nothings on the roads, juuuuust cruuuuuusiiiing.

65 miles > let's aviiiiiiiit driving up to the speedlimits.