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gareth1988
17-12-10, 05:09 PM
hi all iv just got a nova with the c20xe redtop engine. i want to make it 200bhp. wat work do i need to do to get 200bhp?? all its got at the mo is a k&n filter.

Pistol Pete
17-12-10, 05:13 PM
Deep pockets lol

Search about. A few similar threads should give you some idea of what is required to achieve your goal.

Rexy
17-12-10, 05:24 PM
You need to sell it and buy my 172 itb'd clio.

Or drop a let in there which may work out cheaper.

mowgli
17-12-10, 05:28 PM
just get it featured in a tuning mag.... that usually does the trick.......

LEWI007
17-12-10, 05:32 PM
just get it featured in a tuning mag.... that usually does the trick.......

lol so true

Spudly
17-12-10, 06:18 PM
Redtop





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/FoilMilkBottleTop.JPG/200px-FoilMilkBottleTop.JPG






:confused::confused::confused:

Mieran
17-12-10, 06:20 PM
50 bhp nos

gareth1988
17-12-10, 06:32 PM
You need to sell it and buy my 172 itb'd clio.

Or drop a let in there which may work out cheaper.

172 slow lol i had a 106 gti that beat them all the time

Spudly
17-12-10, 06:36 PM
172 slow lol i had a 106 gti that beat them all the time



And what was done to the 106 then as thats punching well above its weight, either that or the clios didnt try, you did see that he had written (ITB'd) didnt you?

AlanH
17-12-10, 06:39 PM
172 slow lol i had a 106 gti that beat them all the time
you blatantly fail at life ITB'S = throttle bodies and 200bhp, like to see your 106 or new xe nova keep up with that

Mieran
17-12-10, 06:41 PM
A 20 year old Nova will be more reliable than a Clio.

Also, some of them can be as low as 140bhp

dave watson
17-12-10, 06:42 PM
you blatantly fail at life ITB'S = throttle bodies and 200bhp, like to see your 106 or new xe nova keep up with that
to be fair 106gsi's handle amazeing but still dreaming when you beat the clio there rapid

gareth1988
17-12-10, 08:09 PM
my 106 was a turbo 240bhp got lots of videos on utube of it.

Mazz
17-12-10, 08:13 PM
url's?

pics?

Spudly
17-12-10, 08:55 PM
my 106 was a turbo 240bhp got lots of videos on utube of it.


Hardly a fair basis to say that 172's are slow then is it, thats like saying porsche 911 carrera turbos are slow because ive been in a nova saloon that beat one (said nova has a 300bhp let btw) so again is an unfair comparison:roll:



Remove the turbo and i guarantee you the clio will hand the 106 its ass!

Andy
17-12-10, 08:57 PM
my 106 was a turbo 240bhp got lots of videos on utube of it.
Maybe so.But without the printout,its just bandwidth pollution my friend

Cle
17-12-10, 10:10 PM
my engines bigger and faster than yours lol

Andy
17-12-10, 10:20 PM
my dad is harder than your dad

General Baxter
17-12-10, 10:21 PM
my dad will **** your dad lol

Andy
17-12-10, 10:21 PM
my dad will **** your dad lol
lol lol lol i dont wanna know lol

Gibbo
18-12-10, 03:07 AM
lol at this thread

philip
18-12-10, 10:35 AM
simple....whats your budget? sure i can spec something to use

bainyboy sr
18-12-10, 10:56 AM
:roll:

Jonlem
18-12-10, 11:06 AM
Stock engine

ARP rod bolts

48mm Tapered tb's

Kent AST1612 camshafts

Uprated exhuast manifold

Thats all you need for a 200hp xe, no need to go mad.

Paul
18-12-10, 11:18 AM
Hardly a fair basis to say that 172's are slow then is it, thats like saying porsche 911 carrera turbos are slow because ive been in a nova saloon that beat one (said nova has a 300bhp let btw) so again is an unfair comparison:roll:



Remove the turbo and i guarantee you the clio will hand the 106 its ass!


Sorry that is utter nonsense. A 300bhp P2/3 (blue pegs i assume) will not beat a 911 turbo. If hedid then the porsche driver was not trying.

Spudly
18-12-10, 11:22 AM
Sorry that is utter nonsense. A 300bhp P2/3 (blue pegs i assume) will not beat a 911 turbo. If hedid then the porsche driver was not trying.




Well we did, it might be wrong on what model it was as im not too up on porsches but it said 'carrera' on the boot though, ask Rich he will back me up:d

Paul
18-12-10, 11:27 AM
A turbo will do 0-100 in under 10seconds. Over 500lb/ft torque IIRC.

Jonlem
18-12-10, 11:37 AM
Paul, the green nova was doing low 9's to 100mph so I could believe it.

A proper Porsche turbo does weigh a fair bit !

That said, its got massive top speed capability which the nova hasn't with that power.

Paul
18-12-10, 12:35 PM
A P2 let doesapprox 13.0 & 110 ish

The porsche will do late 11s & 115ish and go on to 190mph.

Jonlem
18-12-10, 12:41 PM
Your thinking about standing starts though Paul, different kettle of fish on the fly.

I possibly wouldn't go as far as saying that a phase 2 nova could beat one but it could certainly keep up to the wrong side of 120.

No way would you touch one when it comes to top speed though

mayhem
18-12-10, 12:55 PM
overall the porsche will win, but in the mid section a nova let will keep up.

blue_peg_16v
18-12-10, 12:58 PM
if he had gone for uber top speed he would of done me i accept this, but he came bimbling up in the middle lane i gave it a bootfull stook to his bumper for a bit then passed him at which point the driver gave me a tumbs up and trust me the way that thing squated when i pulled out he was trying, the loon is phase 3

also bear in mind a 911 weighs 1570kgs so power to weight ratio may be alot closer, and we were on a roling start so no issues with grip

MattBrown
18-12-10, 01:36 PM
Bingo, right there blue peg. Weight.

800kg nova (1.1tonne with spudlollollol)

say 1tonne, with the 2 of you in, and the prosche was 1700kgs with him and his fuel money in.

You need 280ish bhp, and 300ish ibft of torque to be roughly the same.

BUT then over 70mph, shape of the car factors dramatically, like pushing a brick through the air.

I have been in a 280bhp loon and beaten a EVO FQ400, but when the windows start moving, mirrors flapping and the wipers bending, I thought i'd rather be in the refined evo, designed for the speed.

blue_peg_16v
18-12-10, 01:38 PM
he had a passanger too but she looked like she weighed 1 killo when wet lol

General Baxter
18-12-10, 01:48 PM
he lost due to getting head off a supermodel, and not driving a nova lol

mrT
18-12-10, 02:02 PM
200 bhp is easy if you get a proper "REDTOP" from the start...v-tech yo :p

Paul
18-12-10, 07:31 PM
Standing start, 30-130, 60-100. You name your speed of choice i will ask a mate of mine to come and prove you will not beat his porsche turbo ina phase 2 Nova.

General Baxter
18-12-10, 09:12 PM
who cares, C20LET or small block, **** tihs 'redtop' crap

or for the MEGA ****ing win, 6 cylinder

mowgli
18-12-10, 09:16 PM
unless it was done under strict laboratory conditions, any 'race' is dubious... when i still had a 1.2 merit, i discovered that a lot of people simply shied away from my utterly fearless 'i'm invincible' style of driving, so my 55hp car got a lot of scalps out on the road....but these cars would have whalloped me on a drag strip

Bubba
18-12-10, 11:01 PM
172 slow lol i had a 106 gti that beat them all the time

sorry but my 1.3 beat a gti...so please take your fench **** to the scrappy

Jack
19-12-10, 12:15 AM
My cock beat a Veyron the other day

Pistol Pete
19-12-10, 10:04 AM
My dads a policeman!

John
19-12-10, 10:08 AM
My cock beat a Veyron the other day

lol proof?

Jack
19-12-10, 10:59 AM
Nobody had a camera as they'd not been invented at the time. My mate's brother's aunt's milkman's mother's lawyer's dog saw it happen though.