View Full Version : who has H.I.Ds
paddy quinn
12-12-10, 07:38 PM
as title says
Errr, the police, BMW drivers, Audi drivers, Merc drivers, and many other people, whys you ask:p
And all domino's pizza delivery drivers.
A lad across my street does in his poor-mans Cossssie
Go to the clinic mate. You may not text positive.
Dougie has them fitted in his Cavalier GSi. Excellent :thumb:
Derick-Sport
12-12-10, 08:00 PM
not me and as of next year an mot failure i belive
Ive got them Xenon projector fcukers that blind everyone lol cant really notice a difference between them & HID's at all.
paddy quinn
12-12-10, 08:04 PM
ive got a set on my nova 8k 35 watts i think they look nice on it
paddy quinn
12-12-10, 08:09 PM
http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/ae121/paddyq85/nova%202/11122010125.jpg
pic of mine
They look bright, especially with the krooze light in the bumper as well
what a puller lol
illegal lights and plate
paddy quinn
12-12-10, 08:11 PM
there angled to the floor so people wont be blinded
I though over 3k kelvin was illegal anyway?
paddy quinn
12-12-10, 08:12 PM
what a puller lol
illegal lights and platemy plates legal pal its the one that was on when i got the car
yeo deffo a "please tug me officer" car lol
I thought the fonts had to be standard now??
paddy quinn
12-12-10, 08:16 PM
I thought the fonts had to be standard now??
youve confused me there pal
The style of letters and the spaces,ive seen people on road wars etc get fines for ones like yours,i may be wrong
paddy quinn
12-12-10, 08:23 PM
soon find out when i get car motd or i could ask my mate to ask his mate to check it as he sarg of police round here
i have lol
Git, my old ones too, E-marked and legal for retro fit to older headlights:thumb:
Nova_Tek
12-12-10, 08:39 PM
My bro has them fitted to the Cav. Work great and no problems in the last 18 months
Git, my old ones too, E-marked and legal for retro fit to older headlights:thumb:
:p
And all domino's pizza delivery drivers.
hahaha that's so true, the four in my town all have them on there totally standard cars..
I did have them, but binned them.
Saloony
12-12-10, 09:06 PM
Run HIDs in the Monaro... and once again, Stop bleeting on about the mot standards cos its all bollox
lol ^ i did't like the lighting up the roof tops and the whole of the car in front even when adjusted right
Saloony
12-12-10, 09:21 PM
lol scattering the beam image there then, even if the image has a slight break in the 'line' it causes that. Butch has projector headlights to begin with so wasnt an issue, plus i had 100% legal kit. Problems arise with dual filiment bulbs dip/main as 90% of hid kits are just dip without main beam were it is required, and were there so stupidly powered it breaks the beam image this is what the mot people are getting at.
HIDs here. No problems with beam pattern on either car (NOT using OEM nova lamps on the saloon in case you weren't aware btw).
not me and as of next year an mot failure i belive
Nope.
Paddy, pics of the beam pattern on yours? Ideally with a halogen in one side, HID in the other to compare...
blue_peg_16v
13-12-10, 12:48 PM
joff has them on his
not me and as of next year an mot failure i belive
this man is correct
this man is correct
Wrong, i think you will find this man....
and once again, Stop bleeting on about the mot standards cos its all bollox
Is correct :p
I'm going to put the quote from the DFT in my sig. I doubt it would stop the HID-MOT misconception though
soon find out when i get car motd or i could ask my mate to ask his mate to check it as he sarg of police round here
Your plates are far from legal.
Mot centres couldn't give a tosh what plates you have on.
I have HIDS in the VX with its projector lenses and the gaymobile clio has them as standard :) nice
Derick-Sport
13-12-10, 02:40 PM
this should help the confusion raken from the dft
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For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.
Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:
1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.
2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).
3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.
In practice this means:
1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.
2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.
3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.
Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.
In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.
Aftermarket HIDs can actually conform to all that.
I'm not sure why they say ECE 98 has to be conformed to as a component, as ECE 98 doesn't specify this. Plus as well, as with 48, if the headlamp conforms then its legal in terms of EU regs, even if its not marked so. HIDs can comply with 48, so long as you have a suitable beam pattern and headlight washers. The self-levelling mech is rubbish, as unless your HIDs push the beam pattern up to a certain level under the usual loading conditions, then you don't need a levelling device - in fact, the same goes for halogens. So, in short, if your HID pattern is the same as your halogen pattern, and your car has no self levellers as standard, you don't need them.
Aaaaanyway. Basically, everything the DfT say in that ^ quote also applies to halogens. I've read ECE 98 and 48 btw lol
Derick-Sport
13-12-10, 03:48 PM
haha you mad man reading through that section just to get that quote made my eyes go dry
You really don't want to read the euro regs on car stuff. Makes the RTA look like a short story!
Git, my old ones too, E-marked and legal for retro fit to older headlights:thumb:
details please Spudders xxx
Ebay chinky specials... they are EVERY approval on earth lol.... well they say they do ;)
please note that if you get sold Bosch aftermarket HID's, Bocsh dont actually make aftermarket HID's (infact they rarely make OEM HID's).. its a 'fake' company setup in China (surprise)
details please Spudders xxx
I would do if i could get the info myself, my mate did a group buy on them but wont reveal his source cos he is a git lol
If i get it out of him i shall pass on the info though:thumb:
Mint FRST
13-12-10, 06:22 PM
My Focus has them, they were part of an option pack.
Think I have turned them on twice! :)
Pistol Pete
13-12-10, 06:33 PM
I nearly bought some for mine. But IMO they will look shat, as Nova headlamps have the lines in. This will mess up the beam scatter. Clear headlights are the way forward, as on most new cars with HIDs.
Not necessarily so, some graded lamps are fine with HIDs; yet some Projectors splatt the light everywhere. I think it just depends on the design of the lens perhaps.
Good example is the Celica (I keep referring to these but they do prove my points well lol), the later spec projector lamps are rubbish with HIDs yet the graded lenses are a-ok.
Pistol Pete
13-12-10, 06:47 PM
Maybe so. With the lines/ridges in the glass of the Nova lamps, this must be why the beam pattern is naff?
Naff design perhaps.
Here's the Celica to compare lol OEM graded lenses too. Bo!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/CCUK/2008_03030066.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/razorjack/CCUK/2008_03030074.jpg
Youve left your keys in the garage doorlock Jack:p
Doesn't bother me, only my dad's S3 in there lol
Youve left your keys in the garage doorlock Jack:p
Just making it that much easier for Lewi to acquire his Irmscher grille. :(
Just making it that much easier for Lewi to acquire his Irmscher grille. :(
Well done you plum, he knows where it are stashed now lol
Doesn't bother me, only my dad's S3 in there lol
http://www.ballerride.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bentley-s3.jpg
:eek:
http://www.ballerride.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bentley-s3.jpg
:eek:
What the Roger Cook is that :eek:
Click the properties young padawan. It appears to be what Jack spoke of.
It looks like a train. :d
Already have but zomfg, its hideous!
I know lol. Like a WCC/hunderbirds collaboration.
hahaha that's so true, the four in my town all have them on there totally standard cars..
It is true, i live right by a domino's pizza and EVERY driver (8-9 in total) has HIDs fitted, poorly lol
I think they must hand them out to every employee.
And tbh HIDs on a 20year old car just dont look cool imo. They dont "go" lol
They also failed mot in my nova due to beam pattern.
And to who posted the the pic up earlier in the thread, the number plate is illegal None standard letters/widths :p
paddy quinn
13-12-10, 08:26 PM
just goes to show that some people cant fit hids properly aka pizza people
I dont think it is the fitting as such, some headlamps just aren't made to have hids, so they look to55, shine light everywhere and blind people.
Well done you plum, he knows where it are stashed now lol
its not in there :p
Loinp, I speak of an Audi S3, not that tank lol
paddy quinn
13-12-10, 09:48 PM
igot the proper kit for mine and they aint to bad scatter wise
NathanSRi
13-12-10, 11:32 PM
And all domino's pizza delivery drivers.
I don't :p
Looky here>
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/videos/featuresvideos/204742/xenon_test.html
Ok, so they're basically saying if the beam pattern is sh!t then they're illegal.
Fine by me, my beam patterns are a-ok. :d
HIDs are only good if you have clean lenses...my audi has neither HIDs or clean lenses :p
Its illegal to have dirty headlamp lenses!
Its illegal to have dirty headlamp lenses!
hense the reason i keep cleaning them. those, my rear lights and my numberplates are clean...rest is covered in grime :(
although the police didnt say anything when they stopped me earlier...infact they missed quite a bit thats a "bit dodgy"
I used to have them on the Corsa but due to the mileage I have to do in the dark they were attracting too much attention and I knew it was only a matter of time before I was going to get pulled.
They lit up the motorway signs and everything due to beam scatter.
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