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hi im just starting a new project after spending most my time building cars for other people i thought it was about time i started my own
ive just bought a mk1 nova sr and im just thinking of what engine to pick
i dont want to stick with the norm buy using a a 20xe or let was thinking about the c25xe but i wanted something different
was thinking of using the saab 2.0 turbo as ive heard it mates to the f20 gearbox so would make things easyer
just wanted to know if anyone on here has used this engine before and wanted advice on any complications that i may find
like does it fit in the bay for starts
any advice would be greatfull no matter how small
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150444
Count Vaux Alot
26-11-10, 09:43 PM
Interesting reading mike
claire6069
26-11-10, 10:23 PM
hi im just starting a new project after spending most my time building cars for other people i thought it was about time i started my own
ive just bought a mk1 nova sr and im just thinking of what engine to pick
i dont want to stick with the norm buy using a a 20xe or let was thinking about the c25xe but i wanted something different
was thinking of using the saab 2.0 turbo as ive heard it mates to the f20 gearbox so would make things easyer
just wanted to know if anyone on here has used this engine before and wanted advice on any complications that i may find
like does it fit in the bay for starts
any advice would be greatfull no matter how small
tbh, as common as xe's and lets are nowadays in corsa's and nova's theres a good reason - they work, they fit easily, parts are fairly easy to come by and problems are easy to solve as so many people have done it before.
is it going to be a daily motor or just a toy?? for a daily i'd say stick to whats known, for a toy, why not try it??
good read that thread mike -cant believe i didnt see that corsa at pvs though :( would have liked to have seen that run!!
It was a good little car, really quick TBH hope he's there again this year as mine should be coming but will be on a trailer as it wont be "road legal" finished by then I dont think :(
claire6069
26-11-10, 10:45 PM
oooo looking forward to seeing it!!
me and ste having a debate about the future of my corsa atm, i was insistent on having a let in it after christmas but hes pointed out that the extra weight plus an f28 will affect the way it handles (it sticks like sh!t to a pan) so as all im after is a reliable 200bhp i dont know whether to throw caution to the wind and have the let or stick with the xe and put throttlebodies on it, decisions decisions lol i'll surprise him when he comes home and say i want a saab lump in it lol
^dont even mention TB's lol Ive been on the phone to QED & on there website on & off all week!!
claire6069
26-11-10, 10:50 PM
o dear sore subject??
Expense & a long winded engine build :(
claire6069
26-11-10, 10:53 PM
worth it in the end though!
****ing better be lol lol
why not go for cheaper TB's mike
why not go for cheaper TB's mike
QED can supply a kit of TB's, rail, loom, ECU etc with a base map for a 20XE motor (standard or modified) & basically anything else I can afford/want in one nice simple box delivered to the door. Saving hassle of getting bits from here & there an then chosing what management, sourcing it, sourcing a loom etc etc.
Keep things simple, its the best way IMO. Will just leave me to get some H rods, visit Autosprint for headwork, valve train & cams, flywheel & clutch, balancing & then assembly here at home.
Thats the plan anyway lol
the cars not going to be a daily driver its mainly going to be a pod car and maybe the odd weekend on the road
ive already just finnished a 20xe and fancy a change
ive read all the threads i can find on fitting the saab engine into an astra but not found anything on fitting into the nova
think im gunna just throw caution to the wind and give it a go
whats the worst that can happed :p
project tread coming soon
im collecting the nova at the weekend
claire6069
26-11-10, 11:25 PM
mike - is there a plan b just incase?!! lol
siby - good man i'll be watching for the thread!
if all goes wrong ill just put the engine in the back
whats the worst that can happed :p
lol we said that about building a 4wd Civic from the remains of Turbo 2000 Impreza my mate stacked lol LOTS can go wrong lol lol
mike - is there a plan b just incase?!! lol
Burn it probably.
the saab engine is to wide for a nova engine bay, you would have to chop a chassis leg off lol
claire6069
26-11-10, 11:28 PM
lol now THAT would be different!!
from what ive read so far your right the engine is going to be a tight fit
just hope i dont have to cut to much away
im a keen welder so dont mind the extra work
ive been wanting to do something a bit different for ages and just thought if i dont do it know i never will
Keen as in good, or keen as in willing to learn lol lol lol
i wouldnt say im that good
but im not scared to get stuck in
claire6069
26-11-10, 11:34 PM
do you have anyone to help/give pointers??
ive got a few mates that could help considering ive spent the last 2 years building there cars. see richards xe nova on here thats me in some of the photos. ps im not the skinny 1lol
and others that can make brews lol
claire6069
26-11-10, 11:40 PM
mk1 nova rich??
claire6069
26-11-10, 11:42 PM
ahhhh yes, i had an st orange astra gsi when i first see that one lol
was a pain to build mainly because of the time scale and all the complications we had with bike itb's and mega****e
claire6069
26-11-10, 11:46 PM
i think this project will be alot more than a pain in the bum lol
i wouldnt say im that good
but im not scared to get stuck in
LEH vxr engine, stand alone management, be the first to make it work.
different is never easy anyway so rise to a challange worth doing.
i never seem to pick the easy ones and to make it worse ive told mates that i would have it finished for usc 2011
claire6069
26-11-10, 11:51 PM
lmao best get off here and get working on it then lol
what has been done in a nova?
c20xe
c20let
20seh
20ne
c25xe
x25xe
z32
some 30 v6 lump
z20let
please continue if you know more
lol id be in the garage now if i had the car yet
picking it up sunday so ill probably be in the garage till late i never seem to know when to call it a night.
any way going bed now long day 2moz got some parts to order. pockets prob gunna feel light for the next few months
ill update some before picks once collected
what has been done in a nova?
c20xe
c20let
20seh
20ne
c25xe
x25xe
z32
some 30 v6 lump
z20let
17dt
c16xe
x16xe
z18xe
cossie yb
honda d16
switch gti engine :thumb:
i was gona do this in my astra but i cant really be ased with cuttin my o/s chassis leg out you need a speed signal so that it will run the ecu so abs or some kind of swensor needs needs to be fitted, you can use the f20 box an shafts but the saab boys reckon it wont last long, then you need a mini loom making up consisting of 2 relays not quite sure also the engine will sit high in the bay just my 2 pennys
also have a look at this
http://forum.saabturboclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=267553
from the reading i have done i thought that the earlyer engines didnt need the speed sensor dont know if im right.
na mate all of them run a speed sensor i belive well the 95/95/97 ones do anyway and obviosuly yo want the hpt version as the lpt is a xe bascailly
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