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ok, if i had a 1.2 carb engine, and a 1.6 8v, could i fit the inlet and carb and dizzy? would thios work with drilled out jets?
comptoncj
16-11-10, 07:21 PM
IIRC the dizzy drive is different on the cam, i used an ast2 in my 1600 8v to run a 1200/1300 dizzy set up.
General Baxter
16-11-10, 07:23 PM
id atleast fit a twin choke lol
novajulz
16-11-10, 07:26 PM
Why dont you try a 32/34 DMTL Webber.
the manifold would be a crap fit on the 1,6 head,
ok, so it would be easier to mpi it? the nova is carbed and will be used a s a daily, but i have a habit of over revving 1.2's and killing them...
General Baxter
16-11-10, 08:29 PM
1.6 block
1.3 head,
webber 34/32 carb
1.3 cam
1.3 dizzy set up
but carbs are gay
Leave the carb alone in the museum where it belongs.
but i have a habit of over revving 1.2's and killing them...
:eek: :eek: How? lol.
You must be leaving it late as hell to change.
Tbh though the 1.2's are what 0-40 for new engine, maybe worth replacing another 1.2 carbed engine after you blown it rather than faffing around converting it to mpi.
Orrrr change gear earlier :p ;)
put bike carbs on the 1600 - job done
or fit the V6 into the corsa C
put bike carbs on the 1600 - job done
or fit the V6 into the corsa C - shush.
:p
i have a habit of revving carbs past 8k....
fit megajolt and a limiter then if you really cant control yourself that much
:p
i have a habit of revving carbs past 8k....
Accelleration, you're doing it wrong.
Southie
16-11-10, 09:27 PM
As you've obviously got elephant feet then fit some arp bolts and an omex limiter IMO.
size 12's....
omex soft cut yeah?
C612DNM
16-11-10, 09:51 PM
Leave the carb alone in the museum where it belongs.
You need some edjamacation my boy.
There's nothing that a 850cfm Quickfuels carb can't sort.
Well, maybe a 950cfm could make it a bit better.
Though this will do for your 1600:
http://www.c-vis.net/demon_engine.jpg
It could do with a polish, but I haven't run it since October 2003.
Southie
16-11-10, 10:08 PM
/\/\ what spec is that running then? It looks a right hodgepodge of various things. I'll name it "alien vs predator 1.6 conversion" lol
pic too small i cant see it :d
C612DNM
16-11-10, 10:37 PM
/\/\ what spec is that running then? It looks a right hodgepodge of various things. I'll name it "alien vs predator 1.6 conversion" lol
Where shall we start.
Steel bottom end, Cosworth Gp.A pistons, lightened 200mm flywheel with 190mm Gp.A Paddle Clutch.
Blydenstein flowed Irmscher inlet manifold (Bill built up the manifold with a TiG welder, then re-flowed it to GTE/GSi ports). Micro Dynamics 45mm bodies (they are utter junk but work), with 40mm bellmouths held on with agricultural suction pipe!. Micro Dynamics rising rate fuel regulator.
Special ground Kent AST9 cam, Kent solid lifters with special lash pads, and GM followers. Kent double springs on Titanium shims with stainless caps.
Head flowed by the best in the business. He has retired and doesn't it any more. He used to do heads for Mountune, MASS, and a number of other race/championship winning engine builders, including the "Sodemo" engines in the BTCC Williams Renault Lagunas (about 1/2way through the season, with poor results, Williams had someone else sort their engines, though Sodemo still tended them). Bills best head was 8hp away from this one.
DTA E48EXP ECU, Lucas coil pack. Mondeo crank pickup, Formula Vauxhall Junior crank wheel, Bosch Lambda sensor for closed loop management.
BTB 4:1 manifold with system.
Pumped by a Bosch inline EFI pump, which takes it's feed from an external swirl pot, fed by a Facet red top from a half size (cut down) standard GTE tank.
Dyno'd and mapped by Steve Grenauld with 190hp, and bags and bags of torque.
(The dizzy is there to bung up the hole, it doesn't do anything these days)
All of that feeds through a quaife 5sp sc/cr box with hand fettled syncros, a choice of diffs (usually 3.94, but sometimes 3.74, or 4.18 - I have a 4.53 somewhere!). Diff is a hand tweaked ZF and was set to 60% lock-up.
Standard 1300 shafts, modified hubs to eliminate bump steer and reduce ackerman to zero. Brakes are Cavalier GSi fronts and standard drums with Ferodo DS11 shoes (extra-hard!) at the rear.
C612DNM
16-11-10, 10:39 PM
All of this talk, I think I should get it going again over winter.
comptoncj
16-11-10, 10:50 PM
You should!
the only way to rev a stock 1.2 to 8k is to down shift to fast.... sloth, as ever you are talking bullsheets.
Danny s-p
16-11-10, 11:10 PM
ok, so it would be easier to mpi it? the nova is carbed and will be used a s a daily, but i have a habit of over revving 1.2's and killing them...thort your going to the other side the world in the next few months. y bother just get a car that has a bit of tax and test on it till you go and stop wrecking all the novas before you go.
stu its a carb, just keep your foot down, there isnt a limiter. i saw 8k on my tim tacho regularly.
thort your going to the other side the world in the next few months. y bother just get a car that has a bit of tax and test on it till you go and stop wrecking all the novas before you go.
nice bit of text typing there. to answer what isnt really your business, i am going thanks, but seen as the celica is pretty much sold, i/we need a cheap daily, and ive been offered a 1.2 with a dead motor. how am i wrecking all the novas? and if ypou have nothing constructive to post, dont.
Flol
I read that spec on the 1600 on the previous page, it say coilpack, bazil says to himself " why the dizzy then? "
I fail lol
Jacking the lifters up around 8K acts as your limiter.
Plus the carb is a natural restrictor etc.... nevermind hey slofff, you believe your gauges
:p
i have a habit of revving carbs past 8k....
What bloody spec is that, our old racing 1.3sr only revved to 7500rpm and that had quite a bit of balancing, lightening etc etc!!!
C612DNM
18-11-10, 04:11 PM
Flol
I read that spec on the 1600 on the previous page, it say coilpack, bazil says to himself " why the dizzy then? "
I fail lol
Bazil - dizzy, him fill hole in end of cam carrier, stop oil coming out.
In days of yore, before electricity, nobody was making nice simple hole bunging thingys. Something for the next rebuild.
paul james
18-11-10, 04:20 PM
How the hell do you kill a 1.2? they are near indistructable and take plenty of abuse. Sure I've seen a few peope on here having to do real daft things to make them go bang, 100Hp of Nitrous etc. Did you forget its a manual and drive everywhere in first?
Bazil - dizzy, him fill hole in end of cam carrier, stop oil coming out.
In days of yore, before electricity, nobody was making nice simple hole bunging thingys. Something for the next rebuild.
yup, realised that when I saw no leads on it lol, I have an old 1.2 dizzy I'll cut the end of and get the lad in work to plate the end of.
Saloony
18-11-10, 09:24 PM
8,000rpm... did the vtec kick in yo?
8,000rpm... did the vtec kick in yo?
Shame the alarm clock didnt.Sorry but that is an absolute bag of knackers
Saloony
18-11-10, 09:29 PM
He must be on Oz time already... give it a few hours
He must be on Oz time already... give it a few ..........wait, ever?
:)
Saloony
18-11-10, 09:32 PM
No apparently xmas John... he said it must be trues
No apparently xmas John... he said it must be trues
lol
i thought the rules stated spamming threads was not allowed? or in english, get fukked
Saloony
18-11-10, 11:41 PM
*Goes to check the rules on starting a spamming thread* or in english stop talking ****, now feck off on the horse you rode in on.
its my thread, if you have nothing good to say, dont post.
its my thread, if you have nothing good to say, dont post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIsnIt1p978
:p
Saloony
18-11-10, 11:51 PM
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
its my thread
The moment you hit post its no longer yours, it becomes property of the interwebs.
Ps is that sig a suicide note?
Saloony
19-11-10, 07:30 AM
The moment you hit post its no longer yours, it becomes property of the interwebs.
Ps is that sig a suicide note?
Oh nos, you may have just tipped him over the edge:roll:
nope, merely a social comment on something. same as baxters was not so long ago.
matt_vaughan
19-11-10, 09:35 AM
but i have a habit of over revving 1.2's and killing them...
How??? I tried that daily and failed for 2 years!!!!lol
re: spamming threads rule... only applicable to the classifieds :p
dougie_boi
21-11-10, 07:21 PM
:p
i have a habit of revving carbs past 8k....proof or gtfo
dougie_boi
21-11-10, 07:23 PM
What bloody spec is that, our old racing 1.3sr only revved to 7500rpm and that had quite a bit of balancing, lightening etc etc!!! hes just talking mince mate unless he wants to prove me wrong
C612DNM
21-11-10, 10:16 PM
My solid lifter 1600 revved to 8800 on the pit straight at Brands with a 4.53 diff in it. Doh! Wrong diff choice, and every time it went past 8500 I started to cringe! It survived. Went bang three races later though!
standard 1.2s do not go past 7500 ish FACT!!! the valvetrain can't take it. bmw156 will vouch for this as i proved it to him
my 1.3 rev needle went round to 6'oclock....she loved it ;)
dougie_boi
23-11-10, 08:56 AM
standard 1.2s do not go past 7500 ish FACT!!! the valvetrain can't take it. bmw156 will vouch for this as i proved it to himthis man speaks the truth
Burgos right 1.2s wont rev past 7500 iirc the 1.4s may well do though.
Damo.
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