fitting an isuzu 1.7td into a petrol nova

[mowgli]

serious question this, i am honestly thinking of fitting a diesel into my mk1. small block

1. if i fit a 1.7 isuzu lump & box, i take it i need to run big block conversion stuff to mount the box, shafts etc...
2. the alternator is fitted really low on them (using astra mk3 as a donor) do i need to mod the rh chassis leg?
3. i know the 1.5d has a different rh chassis leg/mount, but would i get away with mounting the engine to the original stock mounts??
4. as it is a road car, would i need to strengthen the bay??

5. all other advice on this subject would be appreciated.

[Balley]

Yeah use big block stuff.
You need to mod the chassis leg for the mount and you need a td nova alternator mount!
No you wouldn't theres nothing at all to mount it to.. You also need all the 1.5td cam belt kit and covers including the back plate. You need the 1.5td stat housing and coolants pipes for the turbo etc..

I would strengthen the bay as they has 132ft lbs standard!

Need any help or info Pm. Its harder than people make out though!

[mowgli]

so i need 2 engines???

[John]

mike, take a looks at the counts quick wip for his diesel, shows how he converted a petrol chassis to derv.

There's no need to mod for a alternator.
Don't forget you'll need a nova td rad too.

[Balley]

Yes am affraid you need a 1.5td out of a Nova, not a Corsa as the corsa mount and stat housing are different.

Shame really as all I had left of mine wre a block head and sump :(

[John]

Doh, i've just binned a scrap but complete 1.5 nova td lump!

[davidfox280585]

contact craig aka novalicious hes breaking his novavan and will have all the parts you need

[General Baxter]

me and mike can do this lol

[mowgli]

so can someone explain why the ancillaries off the 1.7 are so wrong for sticking into a nova???

[mowgli]

me and mike can do this lol
lol

[John]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145562

The counts wip with lots of excellent pics

[mowgli]

/\ read that, but it doesn't fully explain the gearbox/differences between the 15 & 17 engines...

[burgo]

so can someone explain why the ancillaries off the 1.7 are so wrong for sticking into a nova???just trust me you try bolting the 1.7 in and it will not fit unless you fit the 1.5 stuff. you dont seriously want me to list all the bits that need swapping do you ?

[mowgli]

so i basically need the front of the engine & all the external pipework & unboltable housings.

[John]

think he does Luke, this is mowgers!

[burgo]

so i basically need the front of the engine & all the external pipework & unboltable housings.

you need the alternator and mount, you have a couple of options for the front water outlet and hard pipe, i chose to cut and reposition the outlet to retain the larger hard pipe. < will come clear when you try and fit the alternator. ideally you want to swap the pulleys and covers for it to be "right". i actually just made a hole for the bottom pulley bolt, again you will see what i mean.

there is then a weird bracket on the back of the engine that needs to come off. theres a number of sensors that need changing. without looking at one i dont know what else is down there to be changed but its no 5 min job

[mowgli]

i have the opportunity to acquire an astra mk3 very cheaply, and if i can find a 1.5td lump, i think it will be a long term thing..i'm just trying to work out if its worth doing to my car.

[burgo]

bare in mind your gonna need tank, lines, loom, clocks, chassis leg, fuel filter mount, a few other mounts. easiest way is getting a rotten donor

[mowgli]

i know, and a mk1 at that...

[MK999]

i know, and a mk1 at that...

Why would it have to be a mk1?

[General Baxter]

becasue of the dash ?

and mk2's are gay lol

[MK999]

Clocks aren't a massive issue surely? Just have to wait for the ECU light to go out instead of glow plug and dont try and actually redline it at 6.5k? lol

[Balley]

you need the alternator and mount, you have a couple of options for the front water outlet and hard pipe, i chose to cut and reposition the outlet to retain the larger hard pipe. < will come clear when you try and fit the alternator. ideally you want to swap the pulleys and covers for it to be "right". i actually just made a hole for the bottom pulley bolt, again you will see what i mean.

there is then a weird bracket on the back of the engine that needs to come off. theres a number of sensors that need changing. without looking at one i dont know what else is down there to be changed but its no 5 min job

Burgo is very right, I have recently changed my engine and it takes ages to change everything, even the bloody oil cooler is different!!

[Balley]

Clocks aren't a massive issue surely? Just have to wait for the ECU light to go out instead of glow plug and dont try and actually redline it at 6.5k? lol

The glow plug lamp is actually in a set of petrol clocks, just put the bulb in :)

The rev counter will need changing as it works off the alternator rather than the coil!

[General Baxter]

the rev counter wont even work lol

[Balley]

Why dont you buy my mates MINT J reg TD?

[mowgli]

because it is a mk2 & i own a 11000 mile mk1 that i don't intend to sell..

[John]

i have the opportunity to acquire an astra mk3 very cheaply, and if i can find a 1.5td lump, i think it will be a long term thing..i'm just trying to work out if its worth doing to my car.

Buy, tune and run the astra as a daily.
take nova off road and fit xe. :p

[Count Vaux Alot]

My wip explains most of what you need any other questions then i can help - im still going to do this properly when i get hold of a shell that isnt a pear!

[mowgli]

Buy, tune and run the astra as a daily.
take nova off road and fit xe. :p

ann widdecombe will pose on page 3 before i get an xe in my nova.

[Count Vaux Alot]

/\ Dont joke..

[mowgli]

i wasn't.......

anyway, asfter all that, the astra hadn't got an isuzu engine, even though i had the bloke identify it with photos....

[Count Vaux Alot]

Anyone breaking a diesel nova i need another chassis leg lol :roll:

[bazil]

I have a brand new one for sale lol

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156553

I've even done a guide on how to remove the o/s leg in my inner wings removal guide in articles.

[Count Vaux Alot]

I don't think I need the guide you've offered but if you can do a little better on the price then I'm defo interested!

[burgo]

turn the track beast into a dirty derv lol

[Count Vaux Alot]

Track beast is sold!:eek: :cry:

[burgo]

Track beast is sold!:eek: :cry:

:eek::eek:, and yet your are straight after another nova lol love it. get that flywheel finished to see if it works