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Alex J
26-10-10, 10:06 PM
52 plate combo 1700di, after using it for a few hours at a time, the orange spanner pops up on the dash and she goes into limp mode:mad: , only dose it every now and again, starts and idels fine, and is smooth running still, just wont rev passed 2 grand, or go above 60mph , if i turn of engine and leave over nite, start it back up , the light has gone out, and runs fine again:confused: , anyone else had this?? or a clue what it is, as when i try to take it to a garage and the light isnt on, so they cant see a fault, stupid van:mad: :mad: :mad:

Paul
26-10-10, 10:10 PM
It will still log the fault code.

Alex J
26-10-10, 10:14 PM
had it checked a few weeks ago, and no fault was there, had the same on my fiat ducato 3.0l multijet, i hate newer vans and cars, stupid millon sensor piles of poo:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

davidfox280585
26-10-10, 10:41 PM
52 plate combo 1700di, after using it for a few hours at a time, the orange spanner pops up on the dash and she goes into limp mode:mad: , only dose it every now and again, starts and idels fine, and is smooth running still, just wont rev passed 2 grand, or go above 60mph , if i turn of engine and leave over nite, start it back up , the light has gone out, and runs fine again:confused: , anyone else had this?? or a clue what it is, as when i try to take it to a garage and the light isnt on, so they cant see a fault, stupid van:mad: :mad: :mad:

with ignition off!!!!!!!!!
press brake pedal hard and press throttle to floor still holding both!
turn the ignition on and the spanner light will flash!!!!!! count the sequence to get the code easy done

if it comes up boost solenoid vac pressure its turbo mine did exact same mine had 120k on clock:thumb:

davidfox280585
26-10-10, 10:42 PM
my bets turbo easy swap removable slam panels rock

John
26-10-10, 11:20 PM
As paul says, if it's been on for that long it will store fault code! What are you checking it with? one of those fisher price scanners?

AlexW
26-10-10, 11:22 PM
Alex, if needed i have the proper kit to read codes and stuff. It should log the codes.

C612DNM
27-10-10, 07:58 AM
If it's not logging a fault code, that can be an indication of an earth fault.
That's a case of going around checking every single earth around the engine bay, especially engine to chassis, battery to chassis, alternator to block, and there's often one near the throttle body/intake plenum which can cause all sorts of random faults that never show up as fault codes.

Measure the battery voltage when the engine is running, measure the alternator output, take your reference (earth) from both chassis and then engine - if there's a major difference (maybe a volt), then you have a problem.

This type of fault confuses the computer operating "expert technicians" as they can't get their heads around them.

The Mrs' Fabia VRS has been playing up with power steering faults. Lights come on the dash, power steering fails. Switch off, switch on, all fine again. No codes stored. The dealer's have taken six attempts to fix it. The last visit was to one of their other branches, and someone with an ounce of sense looked at it in a different way and he thinks he's cured it.

Her previous Zafira did similar silly buggers, and that was earth related. I made up a new earth strap from block to battery, and everything was rosy in the garden after. Before it was charging, but only at about 13.2v, after it was charging at a healthy 14.4v.

Alex J
27-10-10, 08:01 AM
with ignition off!!!!!!!!!
press brake pedal hard and press throttle to floor still holding both!
turn the ignition on and the spanner light will flash!!!!!! count the sequence to get the code easy done

if it comes up boost solenoid vac pressure its turbo mine did exact same mine had 120k on clock:thumb:i hope the turbo isnt gone, it boosts up fine, and it only dose it every now and then,, can a solenoid be changed on its own, or is it some stupid thing built into the turbo or something???, awo6, thank you for the offer on the kit, ill take it down to my pal, and see what he reckons, if no joy, i may borrow you:cool:

davidfox280585
27-10-10, 08:18 AM
i would just read the codes via the pedal way does same job takes a minute and free on the spot, the solenoid is located to the right of the injectors above the box at the top i have a spare at home as i changed it to no error, my fault was at say 75mph spanner light on limp mode drop to about 55mph annoying as hell, check your turbo for play? Sounds the same symptoms as my combo had, i never used a code reader on a corsa c ever as the way i know is what my pal at vauxhall showed me and never failed me even impressed the neighbour when i sat in her car and diagnosed the fault without even starting the engine she now thinks im god lol, seriously check your turbo mine never give any smoke or signs of it going, and mine boosted fine even though it was on its way out

tony k
27-10-10, 09:11 AM
my astra family wagon spanner light comes on now and again,but dont go into limp mode,goes off after the car gets warm,mines a 2007 1.7 cdti (100),had my checked on the diagnostic machine,didnt come back with anything either,i do get a noise in 4th and 5th a dinging noise,if doing 40mph,then goes when i go past 2k revs

davidfox280585
27-10-10, 09:36 AM
my astra family wagon spanner light comes on now and again,but dont go into limp mode,goes off after the car gets warm,mines a 2007 1.7 cdti (100),had my checked on the diagnostic machine,didnt come back with anything either,i do get a noise in 4th and 5th a dinging noise,if doing 40mph,then goes when i go past 2k revs
Total different engine fella the 1.7di is the new isuzu lump basically the older engine with an ecu and loads of sensors also now there low pressure turbos and the di doesnt come with a cooler as the dti does

Sloth
27-10-10, 10:49 AM
v6 the *******.

davidfox280585
27-10-10, 02:39 PM
v6 the *******.
Doesnt quite answer alexs question though rob! Though would be fun, infact get the axe out we'll sort the ****er

Sloth
27-10-10, 02:40 PM
i can tell you how to v6 it using vauxhall mounts and parts.....

davidfox280585
27-10-10, 03:02 PM
personally rob id rip the crap ecu and engine out and get a astra td mark 3 old isuzu lump in there instead should bolt straight in retrofit a throttle cable! Job done! All the coolant hoses can be interchanged from the combo best thing to do imo, really considering this, if i got someone for my cav and knew where there was a dead combo id build it

Sloth
27-10-10, 03:51 PM
theres a builder local to me running a c20seh in a combo c. took him a weekend and uses corsa b dials instead of the CAN c ones. i was talking to fearless about using a corsa b loom in a corsa c shell. makes it an easy conversion

davidfox280585
27-10-10, 03:59 PM
makes sense rob as everything you need will be there a bit of extending and plug changing for heaters etc if needed and job done, putting the derv in you could hide your engine loom as its only the cts and diesel pump solenoid, the speedo runs from the nearside shaft so could leave all that set up switched live from ignition to pump and she will run, think it is a good idea to run corsa b looms though

Sloth
27-10-10, 04:20 PM
watch this space mate ;)

Alex J
28-10-10, 06:03 PM
err v6 the van:wtf: , that would be pointless, its a work van!!!, on a more on topic thing, had a code reader pluged in, and it said edu fault, oh great, only £300 for a new one, took it of, had a look inside, looked a bit damp, so dryed it out, re sealed it and wd 40 all the plug etc, put it back on, lights of and seems to have done the trick, not sure how long it will last! vauxhall said its a common fault, also to add on the list, the central locking has packed up now:mad: , light on the key works, but even if you unlock it using the key only the door unlocks and not the rest, including the fuel cap!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: , whats broken now!!

Andy
28-10-10, 06:09 PM
go and have a big steaming crap on it.It will make you feel loads better

John
28-10-10, 06:25 PM
maris was it the fuel pump ecu? i can tell you how to repair it easily.

John
28-10-10, 06:26 PM
Put the key in the ignition, and turn dash lights on. operate key fob, will recode if there's no faulty components.

Alex J
28-10-10, 06:36 PM
Put the key in the ignition, and turn dash lights on. operate key fob, will recode if there's no faulty components.it was the edu, not the ecu at fault, as for the central locking, there must be something wrong with componets as it dont even work with the key, box of matches , petrol can and axe are at the ready:mad:

John
28-10-10, 06:37 PM
edu? The control unit bolted to the pump?

John
28-10-10, 06:37 PM
it was the edu, not the ecu at fault, as for the central locking, there must be something wrong with componets as it dont even work with the key, box of matches , petrol can and axe are at the ready:mad:

You tried doing what i posted?

Alex J
28-10-10, 07:10 PM
just did mate, it did nout, also it was the unit bolted to the pump, edu i belive its called, should have got a rusty old ford escort van!!!

John
28-10-10, 07:13 PM
just did mate, it did nout, also it was the unit bolted to the pump, edu i belive its called, should have got a rusty old ford escort van!!!

Different strokes and all that!

Any way, take it off again, carefully (not with an axe) remove the rear cover. You'll see the back of the circuit board. Smack bang In the centre of the board you should see a browned or loose solder. Clean up and resolder, should be the end of the problem.

Alex J
28-10-10, 07:17 PM
Different strokes and all that!

Any way, take it off again, carefully (not with an axe) remove the rear cover. You'll see the back of the circuit board. Smack bang In the centre of the board you should see a browned or loose solder. Clean up and resolder, should be the end of the problem.i took that apart today, and all soilders were mint, just a bit damp, looks like its been repaired before:confused: , back to the locking, now when i press the button on the key, the red light flashes instead of staying on, hum, weird or what!!

John
28-10-10, 07:20 PM
repair what's been repaired before (properly) Tried a a new battery in the key?

Alex J
28-10-10, 07:24 PM
repair what's been repaired before (properly) Tried a a new battery in the key?edu has been apart before, as original seal was broken, was damp inside, new battery is in, just wont do anything on the key, match and petrol is getting closer!!

danderv
28-10-10, 08:02 PM
Edu's are 600 odd quid from gm but i sell them for 350 new but various people do repair jobs on the bay.