Ecotec into a Nova

[bmw156]

Hey guys,

is there much difference in putting an 2.0l ecotec in a nova to a redtop

what parts are needed for the conversion, and whats the wiring like. many thanks.

questions to be answered.

shafts
wiring
mounts
gearbox

[Ben]

Wiring is easy enough just need to get around the ECU immobiliser other than that pretty much safe as fitting an XE,

A f16> box will fit with the ecotec so the shafts are the same as the xe, the mount is the safe too.

So basically same amount of work.

[General Baxter]

only 4 holes will line up for the crank pulley

[bmw156]

Wiring is easy enough just need to get around the ECU immobiliser other than that pretty much safe as fitting an XE,

A f16> box will fit with the ecotec so the shafts are the same as the xe, the mount is the safe too.

So basically same amount of work.

i have the whole car,

so have the keys etc,

and baxter, for the single pulley for the alternator etc..

and thanks. ill have a look at the redtop guide loosely

[Ben]

Yeah you may have the keys and the transponder but you still need to cut and splice the loom unless you fancy fitting the entire calibra loom

[bmw156]

yeh yeh, can i not strip out the gubbins i need from the cally, ECU etc and then just "place" the ecu in the nova, and splice in the other bits i need for the engine/dash etc.

[AlexW]

Wiring is very very similar to baby xe. So as said, ecu, then the transponder wiring, and put the key/keychip inside the barrel.

[craig green]

I know of the ideal car to slot it into............

Personally if I was doing an ecotec bigblock I'd consider an F13/15 box as they wont need the more expensive/harder to find shafts.

[bmw156]

so if i ran it on a f15 box, could i run the nova shafts on the nova its self?
or will i need the 22 spline ones?

[Sloth]

you need a carlton or frontera bottom pulley, single v and fits the eco. use its alt aswell.wiring wise as said its the same as a baby xe, but if you get an early cav or astra mk3 loom and ecu its non immob. one of these in a corsa with an f16cr i did was bloody quick

[Adam]

Yeah.
But you'd need a different fly/clutch setup to fit the f15

[Sloth]

f15 = nova ones, iirc using a 1,7 derv fly and a n ova gte clutch is the way to go.

[Andy]

which is dearer and alot more hassle than conversion shafts

[Sloth]

yarp.

[bmw156]

lol so its proper hassle

fook it i wont do it.

[Sloth]

i have a mount kit here. and can supply the alt and pulley.

[John]

(Iain Grants?) old gsi was a very tidy ecotech example (now in wardy's hands but with a c20xe iirc)

[Sloth]

stripped and scrapped john, was reshelled etc...

[John]

stripped and scrapped john, was reshelled etc...

didn't he have a wip with all the details in though?

[Sloth]

yeah wardy got it as accident damaged, broke it, and used the conversion bits etc in a new shell, and sold the eco

[craig green]

Using the F15 smallblock box, the linkage, shafts & mounts is all un-modded Nova stuff. I fail to see how this is more hassle or more expensive. Surely a scrapyard flywheel & a new clutch makes sense anyway?

But I was just throwingh the option into the mix. On an XE (redtop) I would say a bigblock box is prolly the way to go.

[AlexW]

If it was me, in a nova id do a eco with a f15 box, flywheel isnt going to be so hard to find, the fact your saving hassle/time/money on 22spline shafts is great.

[craig green]

22 spline shafts arent perfect by all accounts, the plunge (in & out tolerance) is sacrificed a little I've heard.

[John]

Found the original wip.

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82545

[Sloth]

ive not had issueswith 22's, even at 100mm drop. i have however bust shaftec inner cvs when giving it beans