I.T

[YellowTurbo]

How here works in I.T? i know it is a strange question. But at the minute i work as a Nokia Technician and i want to start a carrer in I.T anyone here tell me how they started :evil:

[mikeoxford]

i was planning to go to uiniversity in september this year, after JUST (this day!) finnishing college

but i think the only way forward from what i found out is to scrap uni and get an MCSE

im going to look into that

[deacon_2107]

i was gonna do that at uni but i dont agree with the debts that the majority will come out with.

I HATE DEBTS

[Stuart]

yes uni does land you with hefty debts, but if you ignore the student loan and dont take the piss you could "only" owe a grand. well thats more or less the position im in and im about to finish uni in 2 weeks

but for IT get a "proper" qualification such as an MCSE (micrsoft certified engineer) or similar/extras

you will pick up more along the way too. Personally i feel that a degree in IT is a bit too theoretical (and full of nerds) so a job based way would be best.

[Fester]

hello

i worked for a year on our school network (pretty big, 3 servers, wireless etc) and now im on an IT degree course. I'll tell u this its bullshit lol you will learn for more getting 'proper' IT certifications (and there are a few!)

you could do a lot worse than look to a school etc for an IT Tech job as u will have a lot to do and will have to learn fast and basically teach yourself

the only thing a degree is relevant for here is proving that you can learn to a particular level

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735617716/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/026-1999183-3896449

go go go!

[elsey197]

if just finished a degree in I.T and it was crap and full of nerds wouldn't recommend it as felt i haven't really learnt a lot. :!:

[?Marty?]

full of nerds? :lol:

Maybe they thought that about you too.

[elsey197]

Maybe, but who cares i havent gotta go there anymore :lol:

[_Ben_]

IT is a fairly broad subject mate, might be worth narrowing down what it is exactly you are interested in..

Support? Engineering? etc etc...

If its anything other than engineering then you most likely wont need a degree if you've got decent A-levels, what you will need though is to find someone to employ you - CSC are good at taking on people without degree qualifications.

Cheers

[YellowTurbo]

CSC?

[_Ben_]

http://www.csc.com/

They supply and maintain computer systems for large companies...

[Ste_Nova]

i've worked in IT now for 8 years.... it's easy....

started off leaving college with a gnvq advanced engineering and btec computing electronics....

then worked in a computer shop
then in a local newspaper office (15 sites, 300macs :x )
then the local college (4 sites 900pcs)
now i look after the network/pcs for the north wales nhs (74 remote sites on the wan 1500 network devices on the main site alone! last count showed 44 servers! :o )

thats my office right above a&e :lol: lights on cause we have a 24/7 helpdesk
http://mig.lathwood.co.uk/upload/n/night.jpg

[GTE-RACER]

Im doing a IT course @ a place called JOSKOS down in London, i'll post the link up laterz. Very expensive but i've so far passed my MCSE and about 2 start on my MCDBA (Microsoft Certified Data Base Administrator) and after that the CCNA (Cisco Certified Network Administrator). Quite hard work as they fly through the stuff, but they promise a job in London (after u've passed and done 2months work experience) starting on at least ?30k a year or all your money back, plus they help set up your own company for u if u really want it.

[Fester]

my uni course is a joke

weve done some editing in adobe premiere i.e. microsoft movie maker type shit lol

oh and some of the lectures were on over head projectors, and because they make noise, you will need to speak louder LMAO

what a croc

[mikeoxford]

this is seriously putting me off uni and helping me make my mind up on the MCSE etc etc

i thought about the nerd factor etc and it not being specialised in the fields i want to do.

maybe i should just get mcses etc..... these are proabably more useful than a degree i would think?

ok i know a degree sounds good but come on...... its a bit dated now adays

[Fester]

im gonna try and get first year passed and knuckle down with this degree

a lot of jobs the pre-requisites include having a degree in this respect its worth it, and try and get your other qualifications in summer holidays etc in between years, if u can be arsed

[Dicko]

just to point out. you are completely waisting your time doing an MCSE now unless u have at least months commercial I.T. experience!!
maybe do an mcp in win 2k pro/server ut dont waist your money!!

[Ste_Nova]

just to point out. you are completely waisting your time doing an MCSE now unless u have at least months commercial I.T. experience!!


months?

[Dicko]

12* lol

[Ste_Nova]

1 year then?

[Dicko]

stop being so awkward :p haha

well i was gonna put 6 months but been looking today and most people want 1/2 years.

basically i got an mcsa+mcse and nobody would take me on as network admin or similar role due to me not having the commercial experience. Iv done work experience at schools on a big win2k/NT network and when i apply for jobs they say its not the same as no presure (no just hundreds iof little tw4ts trying screw the network up all the time :lol: )

well i got a possition with a small company as support but the network admin doesnt know win2k so when we migrated to 2k a few months back i was slaped with position and he moved over to delelopement/admin.
i havent been working here long but iv applied for other jobs on more money and im having much better success on call backs and interviews than before.

[Alex]

i am just finishing an honours degree in computing, but it is almost all thoretical. We have barely touched a pc throughout the course. It is all about experience, as these days there are so many computing nerds out there just a degree in it isn't enough.

[Ste_Nova]

It is all about experience, as these days there are so many computing nerds

after calling me that there is no chance i'd hire u LMFAO :lol:

[Stuart]

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD ;) lol


im getting the same grief, no experience = no job lol ah well ill just have to get my foot in the door properly with prodrive