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Andy
13-09-10, 04:46 PM
Is corrugated asbestos sheets.Its leaking now in most places everytime it rains and has ruined my shelving in there.Also theres dust ontop of my nova from the roof sheets.Basically its fukkin shagged.
So im thinking while the weather is still reasonable and light nights to sort it out rather than chance another year of it risking caving in and denting my nova.I also want it dry in there as my washer and tumble dryer live there aswell as the overflow fridge.What sort of roofing material options do i have that doesnt involve assuming the position in my local travis perkins etc?
Any help/advice is appreciated:thumb:

dc1984
13-09-10, 04:57 PM
is it a panel garage? ie concrete sections bolted together with a metal roof covered in asbestos sheets?

Andy
13-09-10, 04:59 PM
bricks mate with a corrugated sheet asbestos roof

dc1984
13-09-10, 05:01 PM
timber joists?

Keif
13-09-10, 05:02 PM
I went through the same last year.

But i had a corrugated galvanized steel roof.

I went with timber and felt.

Gone from
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i124/Keif_1974/Cars/GarageRoof/DSCF2746.jpg

Via
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i124/Keif_1974/Cars/GarageRoof/DSCF2759.jpg

and
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i124/Keif_1974/Cars/GarageRoof/DSCF2793.jpg

to
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i124/Keif_1974/Cars/GarageRoof/DSCF2802.jpg

dc1984
13-09-10, 05:05 PM
only thing with felt is it needs replaced every few years, and if the high winds get it its away:(

a would tend to go down the sheet route.

Keif
13-09-10, 05:10 PM
Wind shouldn't be a problem if it's fitted properly and as long as you get the best quality felt/underlay you can it should last more than 5years.

I wanted to go away from the flat roof too.

gazz
13-09-10, 05:10 PM
get the assy sheets off and fit steel corie sheets.piece of pi$$.
only prob you will have is getting rid of asbestos sheets

Andy
13-09-10, 05:11 PM
looks good keif,how much did that set you back?

gazz
13-09-10, 05:11 PM
or you can get some osb board from BQ fit that and felt over top:thumb:

Keif
13-09-10, 05:13 PM
I had steel sheets that leaked, it was the condensation dripping off it that was my main problem.

So when it rained the car got wet, and when it was cold and not raining it got wet then too.

Double :cry:

Jack
13-09-10, 05:13 PM
Is corrugated asbestos sheets.Its leaking now in most places everytime it rains and has ruined my shelving in there.Also theres dust ontop of my nova from the roof sheets.Basically its fukkin shagged.
Your garage is full of asbestos dust?!

MK999
13-09-10, 05:15 PM
Your garage is full of asbestos dust?!

Think he means bitumen sheets, like so:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Bitumen-Corrugated-Sheet/invt/240059?source=123_4

Andy
13-09-10, 05:15 PM
not full but a few speckles on the roof of the nova,enough to notice anyway

Keif
13-09-10, 05:16 PM
looks good keif,how much did that set you back?

I went daft on the cost of the felt so it lasted.

It was around £800 including the shiplap cladding. Just the wood and felt would be around £500-550.

Andy
13-09-10, 05:19 PM
Think he means bitumen sheets, like so:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Bitumen-Corrugated-Sheet/invt/240059?source=123_4
nah,asbestoslol

Andy
13-09-10, 05:21 PM
I went daft on the cost of the felt so it lasted.

It was around £800 including the shiplap cladding. Just the wood and felt would be around £500-550.
fokkin hell!!:eek:
Well my house is rented off the mrs' mother and i doubt her and husband would pay for any repairs to garage so i was going to take on the cost myself to sort it.Didnt want to spend a great deal tbh as it isnt my house

nova_saloon
13-09-10, 05:23 PM
good for the amune system asbestos

gazz
13-09-10, 05:23 PM
I went daft on the cost of the felt so it lasted.

It was around £800 including the shiplap cladding. Just the wood and felt would be around £500-550.

jesus where did you get that lot from? thats to much...:eek:

Keif
13-09-10, 05:24 PM
It's the cost of the Exterior ply and underlay/felt that's the expensive bits. which if your just going to keep it flat, you need to buy anyway.

The joists cost me about £70 for the wood.

Keif
13-09-10, 05:26 PM
jesus where did you get that lot from? thats to much...:eek:

Nope, that's everything right down to screws and coach bolts etc.

mayhem
13-09-10, 05:27 PM
Your garage is full of asbestos dust?!


take a deep breath and.. cancer ahoy!

Andy
13-09-10, 05:28 PM
take a deep breath and.. cancer ahoy!
lol it isnt as bad as that

gazz
13-09-10, 05:28 PM
i'm roofer by trade, thats pricey.
still no good me telling you now ;)

Andy
13-09-10, 05:29 PM
i'm roofer by trade, thats pricey.
still no good me telling you now ;)
thats the reason

Mazz
13-09-10, 05:30 PM
My roof is the same, i've half-arsed looked into it, and as said, the main problem is getting of the asbestos sheet as your not allowed to break it down :(

MK999
13-09-10, 05:31 PM
nah,asbestoslol

Fair enough, long as its not me filling my lungs with it lol

Pistol Pete
13-09-10, 05:31 PM
Erm surely if its asbestos, you will need to get rid of properly. i.e fooking expesive??!!

gazz
13-09-10, 05:31 PM
true.. trade prices lol

Andy
13-09-10, 05:33 PM
Erm surely if its asbestos, you will need to get rid of properly. i.e fooking expesive??!!
nah,ive been reading into some regs on it this afternoon,and ive removed one before for a friend,we had masks and paper suits.And at my local tip aslong as its double bagged in a rubble sac they will happily take it.

Pistol Pete
13-09-10, 05:35 PM
Fair enough.

Can you still get that corrugated sheet. Not iron, its material. Black. Few sheets of that, some wooden joists...Job jobbed.

Like so..http://www.wickes.co.uk/Bitumen-Corrugated-Sheet/invt/240039

Mazz
13-09-10, 05:35 PM
8x4ft rubble bags :confused:

Andy
13-09-10, 05:36 PM
8x4ft rubble bags :confused:
lol broken up,its fine.It really isnt as bad as they scare you with,people who suffer from asbestosis have had years of exposure.Is everyone scared of mdf? you should be as that has carcinogenic fibres.Hands up who wears a dust mask when cutting that?

Plug
13-09-10, 05:48 PM
was going to say the local tip will take it aslong as its double bagged. the corrigated stuff isnt actually got that much asbestois in it anyway, its the blue insulation stuff you have to look out for and the pipe lagging

Andy
13-09-10, 05:53 PM
was going to say the local tip will take it aslong as its double bagged. the corrigated stuff isnt actually got that much asbestois in it anyway, its the blue insulation stuff you have to look out for and the pipe lagging
thats the stuff:thumb:

Andy
13-09-10, 06:08 PM
so now the Health and Safety executives have been in,what are my options??

Pistol Pete
13-09-10, 06:31 PM
Surely they will either give you guidlines with regards to its removal and disposal or do it all for you??

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/HomeAndCommunity/Planning/DoingWorkYourself/DG_10022562

Andy
13-09-10, 06:40 PM
Well i was a upvc fitter for 4 years and not once did we ring anyone or do owt before removing asbestos soffits or strips off fascia boards on gable ends.And that was for a big company.So i dont plan on doing it now for a poxy garage roof lol
Again enough of the health and safety lol

Pistol Pete
13-09-10, 07:01 PM
lol fair enough. Crack on then!!

Keif
14-09-10, 12:24 PM
i'm roofer by trade, thats pricey.
still no good me telling you now ;)
thats the reason

Exactly, i did about 3 months research/pricing up.

If i'd have just gone to Wickes and bought everything to do the roof/guttering, it would have cost me more than I paid to do the whole job.

I ended up reducing the total cost by almost 20%. :thumb:

Southie
14-09-10, 12:43 PM
Have a read through this regarding asbestos in your home CLICKY (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:zMWsfYb8KukJ:www.hse.gov.uk/foi/internalops/fod/inspect/asbestos.pdf+laws+on+renting+and+problems+with+asb estos+in+garage&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgA5K5ti0crIVJA7njOVUoWU3VDBa6cbrIODnoc of3Xaxl68Po7saAy25zGAZu6hckHYFIWKYnQu5aNMRFm9lpAwu RoI2q5hVgCLSyerX1D-N0UQ30WP8w94PQOp3JawzqTGHra&sig=AHIEtbQZU0gtUMdPqT9NjHVhlES3RR210g) ;)

Andy
18-09-10, 11:19 AM
bought some bitumen paint,going to give that a go to see if that will stop the leaks.Looks like im going to have to chance another winter:(

gazz
18-09-10, 01:25 PM
if that dont work try Acropol it has fibreglass meterial in it. we use it some times as a temp leak stopper..

mowgli
18-09-10, 05:41 PM
bought some bitumen paint,going to give that a go to see if that will stop the leaks.Looks like im going to have to chance another winter:(

it won't fix leaks very well....

why not simply put a few batons up on the inside & staple some polythene sheet to it as a short term fix..

corrugated sheets have a limited lifespan & domestic crappy garage ones are the cheapest of the lot..

seriously, go & buy a farmers weekly, or farmers guardian, and find the local cladding company. they will usually have a stack of offcuts, or wrong sheets. then get some 'tek' screws & an 8mm driver bit for your drill, and re roof it.

obviously you need to see the local council for removal of the old stuff..


or wait till a storm & it might just blow off & the house insurance people might just replace it

Mike
18-09-10, 05:58 PM
Corrogated FG roof sheeting. Lets light in, keep werter out, easy as having a **** to work with. Some hefty 6x4 rought sawn timber lengths, make up some joist's, jobbed.

Andy
18-09-10, 06:05 PM
cheers for the advice,i'll see how i get on with the bitumen.I begrudge spending much money on it as its a rented house off our lasses mam and i know for a fact she wont put owt towards it so im just going to have to make do really.What can i do to stop the dust? paint it?

Mike
18-09-10, 06:17 PM
Paint wont stick very well to a frayable surface unfortunatly.

Andy
18-09-10, 06:18 PM
balls

Mike
18-09-10, 06:19 PM
balls

Case of paper suit, respirator & stiff as nails yard broom, brush down internal side & paint with something like an oil based white undercoat? Might end up flaking like fcuk though.

Or create a false ceiling?

Andy
18-09-10, 06:22 PM
cheers mike,its feckin annoying,if it was my house i would rip the full lot down and rejoist and the like.but as i would be paying the lot and for someone elses benefit i cant justify spending much.

Novasport
18-09-10, 11:38 PM
I masked up, cleaned up joints with a brush, applied primer then flashing along the joints that were leaking. Bitumined over the top for good measure and its been fine for the last 12 months and should be OK for another winter.

Was going to build another garage so was not fussed long term

That green bitumin sheet is very good, my dad had the non asbestos concrete roofing on a fairly new sectional garage and they all cracked. He has replaced them with the green bitumin sheet and its now fine. All dry and no condensation.

Keif
19-09-10, 09:04 AM
Just be careful bitumin sheet get soft when the sun is on it. If it's not supported well, it will sag.

Andy
19-09-10, 09:24 AM
thanks fellas,its currently blasting it down and the half ive bitumen painted seems dry,its normally created a puddle on the shelf and today its dry.Good times:)

Novasport
19-09-10, 10:02 AM
I put just bitumen paint on my roof the first time and it just dried out and cracked. Don't expect it to last long.