z20let f23

[arjo]

hello
my name is arjo
i am from holland

the engin in my nova is a z20let and f23 gearbox
original it was a 1.4 swing from 1990.
the engine came from the astra vxr from 2004.also i have put the brakes from the astra on the nova also a weichers rollbare.cobra sits.

ihave manny picters but in need to post 15 time's before i can post them

[djbrowney]

get posting buddy, cant wait to see the pictures :)

[comptoncj]

Sounds like an interesting project!

[arjo]

the nova is nearly finished,still working on the electrices.

[scorge01]

if you send me pics would easily upload them for you??

[mayhem]

eey arjo ;)

get up 15 posts and picwhore away ;)

seen this car irl a few times, proper good build.

[arjo]

scorge the pics are in your mail box

[mayhem]

sneek peek for you guys ;)

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh250/pastryz20let/DSC_7800Medium.jpg

[arjo]

hey mayhem:)

how are you (hoe is tie)

[mayhem]

good thanks, and you?

sorted the clutch problems already?

[arjo]

not jet, firts i get the engine running.runt it en then whait if the clutch cets loss.

[scorge01]

here you go mate
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova.jpg?t=1284302299
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova8.jpg?t=1284302342
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova7.jpg?t=1284302342
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova6.jpg?t=1284302342
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova5.jpg?t=1284302342
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova4.jpg?t=1284302342
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova1.jpg?t=1284302342
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab268/scorge01/nova9.jpg?t=1284302342

[MK999]

Nice to see someone actually do it for real lol Can't wait to see details on it :) Standalone management?

[Balley]

Mk999, should you be sat on here if your Nova aint running yet?! LOL

Very nice BTW, something different to the normall XE/LET

[djbrowney]

fook me that looks better than a let in there lol

[MK999]

Photos look top, is it actually orangey or is that flame red doing what flame red does best with a camera on it? lol


Mk999, should you be sat on here if your Nova aint running yet?! LOL

Very nice BTW, something different to the normall XE/LET

More infos in the headgasket thread :( Rather not spam this guys thread though!

[arjo]

the engine has the specs from the leh engine.
before the engine whent out off the vxr, eds from germany has done the software 308bhp and 468nm

the problems are the original whire.it is nearly impossible to put it completeliy in the nova.there is no room for it.

[arjo]

the colour is from opel speedster 596
it is a orange/gold pearl

[MK999]

the colour is from opel speedster 596
it is a orange/gold pearl

Ahh a pain to photograph then! Bet it looks good in the flesh mind :)

[scorge01]

looks tidy mate you done all the work your self?
and if you want more pics up let me know

cheers scorge

[Edd]

Looks very nice

More people should be using z let/leh in nova's IMO
As browney said looks alot better than a c20let, looks less cramped

[moffat]

tidy!

[John]

Awesome, more deatils and pics required!

[mayhem]

looks tidy mate you done all the work your self?
and if you want more pics up let me know

cheers scorge


arjo is a painter by profession, worked at a local opel dealer for about 20 yrs, and a few years ago started his own bodyshop :)

people should do this more, but it needs a lot of mods to fit a F23 box.
the chassis leg is almost a full custom jobbie.

[arjo]

we bild the nova are self.the z engine is no problem to get into the nova.ther is more room,the cilinderhead is smaller done a c.
big problem was the f23 gearbox,had to rebuilt the chassis off the nova.

[Sloth]

that is fukking awesome. i want it. nice use of the astra intercooler. and the header!! everytime i look at this theres another trick bit.

[Sloth]

the z engine is no problem to get into the nova.ther is more room,the cilinderhead is smaller done a c. and naplam said it was too big..... lol

[pastry]

Hi Arjo... How are you man? ;)

for the people who cant wait.... I'ts in Dutch...but the pics arn't.

http://corsaa.forum2go.nl/ombouw-naar-z20let-motor-moet-eruit-t131.html
When arjo has enough posts he wil post the pictures here. :)

[arjo]

and naplam said it was too big..... lol


the engine is no problem.but there is nothing that fits from a c20let/xe
i had to make all new engine mounts.
there in not alot off room but you al now thislol
i allso have the radiateur from the 1.5td in the nova
the ic is verry big,this is the one from eds size 340x340x95

[arjo]

also i have put the brakes on from the astra
in the front 308mm at the back 268mm

[Southie]

Welcome to PNG :)

I really like it and the engine looks like it was made that way from the factory, very nice indeed :thumb:

[nova_saloon]

looks a lot of hassle, but nice going

[c20 nva]

nice looking car mate

[arjo]

thanks

[Derick-Sport]

amazing work, this will definatley get people talking on here buddy

[arjo]

foto's
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010054Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010055Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010272Small.jpg
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http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010339Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010431Small.jpg

[arjo]

more
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010295Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010297Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010308Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010314Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010315Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010317Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010346Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010347Small.jpg

[arjo]

few bits on the nova
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010327Small.jpghttp://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010267Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010266Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/bilsteinSmall.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010249Small.jpg

[arjo]

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010515Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010516Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010508Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010506Small.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010505Small.jpghttp://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1010433Small.jpg

[arjo]

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/th_eerstestart.jpg (http://s537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/?action=view&current=eerstestart.mp4)firts start

[arjo]

old nova
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/4corsar.jpg

and now it's like this
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/corsa.jpg

[garethcolley]

This is brilliant. Any pictures of the drivers side engine mounting/chassis arrangement?

Gareth

[dave watson]

hello
my name is arjo
i am from holland

the engin in my nova is a z20let and f23 gearbox
original it was a 1.4 swing from 1990.
the engine came from the astra vxr from 2004.also i have put the brakes from the astra on the nova also a weichers rollbare.cobra sits.

ihave manny picters but in need to post 15 time's before i can post them

to my knowladge there wasnt even vxr in 2004

[MK999]

to my knowladge there wasnt even vxr in 2004

Really?! Someone call the police. Seriously, you think its a fake or something because he got a date wrong?

[arjo]

in holland the where cold astra g opc2.from 2002

[arjo]

This is brilliant. Any pictures of the drivers side engine mounting/chassis arrangement?

Gareth

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/z20let9Large.jpg

[Nick J]

Very nice Arjo....... Its good to see someone has finally fitted a zlet and F23 into a nova and made a nice job of it. ;)


Nick.

[hartley]

great project mate top notch work

[Plug]

the z20let, was around over here in 2002 iirc, Mk4 astra bertone coupe was fitted with it.

As said by everyone already our new Holland friend :) looks like a top build mate :thumb:

[GDN16v]

I like that alot:thumb: Very nice work:d:d:d:d

[Pistol Pete]

Very nice Arjo....... Its good to see someone has finally fitted a zlet and F23 into a nova and made a nice job of it. ;)


Nick.

What he said. Looks great.

[hendrix]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome :)

[dj_wudgey]

looks well good matey! the cage is the bomb mate should join up to the strut tops!! the engine is looking rather tasty two id rather have a sr grille though!!

[arjo]

i will fit a sr/gsi grill we are now working to get the engine running.
lot off things to do electric and software
but it wil run

[MattBrown]

Looks a top project.

Don't the xe/let engine mounts fit the block?

Or is it a custom setup?

[arjo]

Looks a top project.

Don't the xe/let engine mounts fit the block?

Or is it a custom setup?

if you whoud use a f20/f28 box you can use the engine mounts from the xe/let

but i have the f23 box then the engine is 5cm more to the front,so there for i had to make the four mounts my self

[Sloth]

so if you bolt it to a f28 it fits on xe mounts?

also wiring wise how are you sorting the CAN wiring?

[Sloth]

also if it was me id be fitting nyloc nuts to your engine mounts ;)

[arjo]

also if it was me id be fitting nyloc nuts to your engine mounts ;)

has bin done,old foto's;)

[arjo]

so if you bolt it to a f28 it fits on xe mounts?

also wiring wise how are you sorting the CAN wiring?

if it fits on the mounts i dont now,i think the two for the gearbox will fit
the one on the left front on the chassis maybe,the one in the front you need to make.

the wiring i am working on at the moment.

[arjo]

Hello everybody,

my name is Ilona and I'am Arjo's wife. Nice to see the positive reactions. It's the stimulance we need to keep going.

We have been building for 5 years now, on and off, finally it looks more like the car I wanted.

Now I need to wait to start racing :)

Kind regards

Ilona

[blue_peg_16v]

awsome car

glad you didnt get any advice of ng racing lol

[pastry]

Hi Ilona.. ready for the pie making workshop? ;)

[Sloth]

so wiring, how far along are you?

[dj_wudgey]

i will fit a sr/gsi grill we are now working to get the engine running.
lot off things to do electric and software
but it wil run

it would look much beter with a sr/gte well gsi grille to you as your not in britain lol

[nova_niek]

Nice to see Holland has the occasional surprise up its sleeve! :-)
Lots of work gone into this build. Hats off to you sir! (not forgetting Ilona who is no doubt serving mugs of tea and sarnies at regular intervals)

Cheers from Lelystad,
Niek

[pastry]

Nice to see Holland has the occasional surprise up its sleeve! :-)


Just like de world cup...lol








when we lost..:cry:

[arjo]

@ pastry,

Off course I'm ready, but I'd rather have a workshop pastry than pie. For me a pie is different than pastry or cake.

[mayhem]

stop talking and fix the clutch arjo ;)

@rob iirc he's going to run a stand alone management. he tried to fit the full astra loom, but that wasnt possible.
there was a trick to avoid a lot of the canbus system... fit a speedster (vx220) ecu, that doesnt have a lot of the crap that a 'comfy' astra has.

[arjo]

clutch is fix

[arjo]

the stand alone management is nearly fininst.
there are some littel things to do but it's nearly running

[Grey]

WOWWW :eek: arjo you are very brave man with electrics with this :thumb: lol

[Connor]

Loving the door handles, what are they off?

[CrAzY_kAyLL]

Please correct me if am wrong but his door handles look like they are off a Corsa B

Nice Nova by the way not sure on the bonnet though other than that am loving it :thumb:

[arjo]

handels are off a corsa b
bonnet is ther for to cet the hitte out off the engine bay,i have also a bonnet white the intakes from a kadett e gsi

[The Simps]

What is the advantage of the f23 over the f28? Just that its newer? Are f23 6 speed?

Sorry how rude! Awesome project idea mate, as said, glad someone has done it.

[Damo]

Simps there 5spd mate but there a little newer than the f20 and have the same mount pattern so it saves going f28 if you dont want.

[arjo]

Thanks!

The f23 is a 5-speed gearbox.

And the f23 is a newer gearbox very cheap to buy, and to rebuild. But I can always go for a m32 gearbox, its fits on the same mounts as the f23.

Best regards, Arjo.

[arjo]

@ Damen.

The mount pattern of the F23, is completly different, than a F20/F28 gearbox
On the f23 and for example the M32 gearbox the fixings are on top of the gearbox, and on the F20/F28, the fixings are on the front of the gearbox.

[Count Vaux Alot]

Impressive stuff well done!

[The Simps]

I noticed you had to change to a cable shift too?

[twinchoke]

Firstly well done I always thought bout fitting a 'z' engine in my nova but never had the balls or money I'm VERY jealous!!!

[arjo]

I noticed you had to change to a cable shift too?

yes the f23 gearbox is a cable shift.but this is very ease to make,drill a hole in the chassis lead the cable thtough the inner fence.end it works:)

[sr jack]

Mental thread! Keep up the good work, can't want to see it running

[arjo]

i am looking iff i can go too the vauxhall meeting att sante pod next year.
and mayby some more nova riders from holland

[Ben]

Another excellent example coming from Holland! Well done!

[L14MNP]

Brilliant stuff mate! Good on you for getting stuck in and not running a mile when you see a complicated loom! I can only imagine what a nightmare it must be to transplant a canbus system.

I look forward to more progress. :)

[rodgerq]

very impressive work!!!

do you happen to have any more pics of the modified chassis leg to make room for the gearbox?

rodger

[arjo]

yes i have more pics,but i don't put them on the forum's jet.first i have too test the nova iff it all works

[arjo]

there is still live in the corsa,still working with the electrics,but it;s getting done.
i have putt a grill in from the gsi
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/grill.jpg

much beterlol
next time more news:thumb:

[LEWI007]

Very nice mate, whats the colour ?

[Danny s-p]

wow i have just made a mess this is mint

[arjo]

Very nice mate, whats the colour ?

the colour is original opel from the speedster nr596
this colour was only for the speedster.

[tony k]

Gotta say impressive stuff arjo,nice to see someone taking on a different engine other than the c20let engine,will be keeping a eye on this project,keep it up

[Huffy]

i am looking iff i can go too the vauxhall meeting att sante pod next year.
and mayby some more nova riders from holland

great stuff mate im sure if you came to santa pod there'll be ques of people wanting to ask you questions. will be very interesting to see tho mate

[Connor]

arjo, please come santa pod this year or next,
Me and (im guessing) alot of the members on here would love to see this in the flesh. Top top work, keep it up :thumb:

[Dervy]

nice work mate, nice to see someone has got the job done :) would like to see it in the flesh.

[mayhem]

there might be a day that the dutch corsa A forum will be at santa pod, we have spoken about this a few times :)

[arjo]

just saw on the calender that the vauxhall meeting at santa pod on the same date is when we have a big opel meeting att the track off assen.

(hey joop alles goed)

[arjo]

We are looking for a possibility to come to Santa Pod. It might be possible, it all depends on the times at Assen. I will check with some other Corsa guys what the times for scrooteneering last year where.

[nova_niek]

Would that be an all German day at Assen, or an Opel-only day? I visited the All German Day at Assen a few years ago and didn't like it. Rubbish organisation and crap weather didn't help either, mind. I for one would go to the Pod. Driving on the left hand side of the road rules! :thumb:

Cheers,
Niek

[arjo]

hey niek
its the german day at assen.it is now on the 13-6 so the weather good be beter.
are you going to sante pod on the 11-12 -6
i am looking to go the 11and 12 santa pod end the 13 german day at assen
i am looking how the ferry goes

[nova_niek]

PM sent

[auzzy-b]

You beauty! Finally a z20let in a nova:) dying to see how quick it is! I want lol

[auzzy-b]

You beauty! Finally a z20let in a nova:) dying to see how quick it is! I want lol

[mayhem]

Would that be an all German day at Assen, or an Opel-only day? I visited the All German Day at Assen a few years ago and didn't like it. Rubbish organisation and crap weather didn't help either, mind. I for one would go to the Pod. Driving on the left hand side of the road rules! :thumb:

Cheers,
Niek

it's still crap tbh.. but afaik the DHRA has been asked to do the 1/4 mile (1st mistake.. assen doesnt have a 402m straight lol) so loads of us are going dragging.

[nova_niek]

it's still crap tbh.. but afaik the DHRA has been asked to do the 1/4 mile (1st mistake.. assen doesnt have a 402m straight lol) so loads of us are going dragging.
Seeing as it's a day for German cars, I might bring the old bus for a laugh - should do the quarter in under a minute. Well that is if the engine doesn't explode! lol

Ye aulde bus - 5322cc diesel pushing out an alledged 90hp (well it did in 1952)
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff333/nova_niek/magirus/MagirusVgeknipt.jpg

btw sorry for hijacking your thread mate ;)

[arjo]

nearly there,it's almost ready

[Mazz]

video's and pics please!!

[Danny s-p]

what he said ^^^^^

[arjo]

working on it

[Mazz]

chop chop!!

[Danny s-p]

yep chop chop we want to here and see it go:thumb:

[arjo]

so am i,working on it its nearly there

[NOV4_SPORT]

WOW this looks amazing well done for fitting a z20let into the nova.

iain

[gary_126]

Agree'd, Amazing work and dedication in this project. Would love to see it in the flesh one day!

[Mazz]

http://s537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/?action=view&current=eerstestart.mp4

[The Simps]

That looks good in there!

[MK999]

That looks good in there!

Look better the other way round though :d

[arjo]

d-day for the corsa
going 9-8 on the dyno.

[calibra-keith]

missed this one, looks a great project, the colour is just what i want for my track nova.

[jaygsi]

missed this one, looks a great project, the colour is just what i want for my track nova.

This thread is 9 months old lol

[calibra-keith]

This thread is 9 months old lol

like i said i missed it till today..

[Nova_Tek]

Wow :eek: That's some fantastic work Arjo, a huge well done (even tough you're not quite finished :))

I considered putting in a Z'LET but everyone was saying it would be difficult. So seeing one actually being done is great. Just makes the C'LET engine swap feel so... 'normal' lol.

Keep up the top work :thumb:

[arjo]

It's a lot of work, the electrical part is the most difficult part, very time consuming.

[arjo]

missed this one, looks a great project, the colour is just what i want for my track nova.

colour is from opel 596 only for the speedster;)

[Mazz]

How'd it go? Any new pics/videos?

[jaygsi]

Ok hes still on here, get some pics up mate

[arjo]

i have no new pics,will make a lot pics and film when de corsa is on the dyno

[arjo]

i am also biliding a new corsa for my zelf.
the corsa is from 1987 i make it wide body 4x4 v6 bi turbo.
i will make a new topic

[calibra-keith]

i am also biliding a new corsa for my zelf.
the corsa is from 1987 i make it wide body 4x4 v6 bi turbo.
i will make a new topic

sounds very interesting, and crazy cant wait to see that aswell :thumb:

[arjo]

it runs.
but i need to make a new film off the firts start.

[Mazz]

great news!

[Connor]

Nice work!

[arjo]

foto's
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1020069Small.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1020070Small.jpg

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/P1020073Small.jpg

still some work on the corsa, i have to make a new film butt it's nearly ther

[Alex J]

nice to see this working, is this the first zlet nova??

[arjo]

nice to see this working, is this the first zlet nova??

i dont no off this is the first,ther are some in corsa b
ther was one on this forum that start the build off a z20let in his nova/corsa
only stop his project why i dont now

[Alex J]

i dont no off this is the first,ther are some in corsa b
ther was one on this forum that start the build off a z20let in his nova/corsa
only stop his project why i dont nowi do remember seeing it, but cant think whos it was, look forward to seeing this going, and will be something diffrent from an LET or xe

[Connor]

Looks nearly there :thumb:

[wwmnw]

i do remember seeing it, but cant think whos it was, look forward to seeing this going, and will be something diffrent from an LET or xe

Wasn't it Gunny?

[Connor]

^ gunnys is a corsa vxr engine

[arjo]

the film
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/th_start.jpg (http://s537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/?action=view&current=start.mp4)
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/th_start1.jpg (http://s537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/?action=view&current=start1.mp4)

[Mazz]

One of my favourite Nova's :)

[nova_niek]

It's alive! :-D

[arjo]

It's alive! :-D

yes yes

(volgend jaar naar santa pod niek)

[heds]

damn, you beat me to it! well done mate.

[Brasso93]

will need arjo's help next christmas when i get a astra lump...fingers crossed i'll be able to afford it lol

[arjo]

date for the 10-6-2012 the nova will by at santa pod.
and also in holland at a car race demo show.17/18 dec.i will put some foto's and film on the forum.
@brasso93 let my now iff i can help

[heds]

ill see you at santa pod! fancy a race? the only 2 z20 novas in a race would be good.

[arjo]

a race okee can we show the rest z20let power

[arjo]

corsa att a car race event
first price best in race trim
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/47_04.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/max2dames.jpg

[heds]

very well done mate! feels good when your hard work is recognized and congratulated.

[Nova_Tek]

Looks Awesome! And congrats on first place :thumb:

[arjo]

found this foto
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff332/arjo_photo/GorinchemZaterdag170corsa.jpg

thanks it has bin a lot off work

[c20 nva]

Very nice mate and well done