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Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:43 PM
Hi everyone i thought i would introduce you to my latest acquisition - its a 1976 Kadett C estate for those that didnt know
Ive had it a couple of months now so decided it was time to get a project thread up.
Basic run down of the plan of action is restoration of the body back to its former glory and a more modern more powerful engine.
I'm going to go with the GM 1600 16v engine from the likes of the corsa B and astra F as they are readily available and its not to difficult to use most of the 1.6 corsa vxr internals in them and the turbo bolts up to them. Plus the fact they are lighter, cheaper and more readily available than the commonly used C20LET 2lt 16v turbo engine. (and i already have most of the bits needed from my track car that will have to wait for a bit)
And of course i will be uprating the rest of the suspension, brakes, and drive train etc to suit the new motor.
Firstly the shoddy mobile phone pics i took when i went to view it:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon001.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon002.jpg
I'm not sure what's with the paint on the roof?
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon003.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon004.jpg
In need of a clean but solid
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon005.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon006.jpg
A poorly door and a grubby sill/rear arch on the N/S - nothing to alarming this is the worst side
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon009.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon034.jpg
A previous poor quality local filler repair on the O/S rear arch
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon031.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon018.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon019.jpg
Both front wings have had repairs in the past and need repairing or ideally replacing
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon011.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon016.jpg
ALL UPDATED POST AWAY!
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:44 PM
Bonnets there but has rust and stone chip issues
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon017.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon014.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon046.jpg
The underside looked and felt solid but until its up in the air who knows
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon032.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon033.jpg
The interior is complete and in reasonable condition
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon020.jpg
No way to verify the mileage other than the interiors condition
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon021.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon023.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon024.jpg
Other than a rip in the head lining :x
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon025.jpg
And finally under the bonnet
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon037.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon038.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon039.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon040.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon041.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:46 PM
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon042.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon043.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon044.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon045.jpg
Then here are some pics from the day i collected the kadett.
Poised and ready for collection
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon189.jpg
It drove on to the trailer a treat
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon191.jpg
And back home after surviving the 60mile journey
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon067.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon070.jpg
Some better shots from around the car and the grotty areas
Front end
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon073.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon074.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon098.jpg
Under the front N/S arch
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon076.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon077.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon078.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:47 PM
The N/S front arch, passenger door and N/S sill
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon080.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon079.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon081.jpg
N/S rear wheel arch
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon082.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon084.jpg
Under the filler cap...interesting
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon085.jpg
The rear end
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon087.jpg
And rear lower panel
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon088.jpg
The O/S rear arch, and a poor quality repair
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon090.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon091.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon092.jpg
O/S sill
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon093.jpg
And under the O/S front arch
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon094.jpg
Here is another previous repair that wasn't done to the highest standard
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon096.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon097.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:48 PM
Front wings...yet more repairs
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon099.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon104.jpg
And while the car was on the trailer i thought i would be rude note to get some from underneath
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon103.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon105.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon106.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon109.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon110.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon113.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon114.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon116.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon117.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon120.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon119.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:49 PM
I continued my initial route around and decided to investigate what was under the rubber covering in the boot
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon122.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon126.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon127.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon128.jpg
I think some thing has been living here!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon130.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon131.jpg
It looks clean enough
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon132.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon133.jpg
And of course Dotty the dog who appears to like my new investment
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon135.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon138.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon146.jpg
I was pleasantly surprised with the amount of space available with the seats down
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon158.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:50 PM
Now I just needed to get all this including the trailer
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon162.jpg
In my single garage
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon160.jpg
Simples!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon168.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon169.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon170.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon171.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon172.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon173.jpg
All swallowed
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon175.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon177.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon181.jpg
All in all i think it could be a lot worse
Once the Kadett was home and settled I decided to start having a poke around the car to see what was actually hiding and what i was going to need to fix it
Initial signs of crispiness
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon193.jpg
Front bumper off
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon195.jpg
A look under the dash on the N/S as i was removing the wing bolts
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon197.jpg
N/S wing off
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon198.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:51 PM
A little ****ty up the front here
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon201.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon203.jpg
And a dead wing
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon205.jpg
O/S wing off and a similar story here too
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon206.jpg
Not too bad considering the date of manufacture
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon207.jpg
There were a few other areas hiding on the O/S under the wing but i had spotted them previously
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon209.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon215.jpg
Here
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon210.jpg
Here
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon211.jpg
Here
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon216.jpg
And there
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon214.jpg
Once i had sussed out exactly what was needed I started to strip the car down a little more (bearing in mind i space is tight so i cant go mad) and started removing rot.
Here are some pics
I started here
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon219.jpg
Removed the wing sealer
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon220.jpg
Head lights out ready to be cleaned up
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon222.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon223.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:52 PM
Front grill out without breaking any clips thankfully
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon224.jpg
Some wire wheel action to remove yet more crud etc
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon225.jpg
And on to attack the spot welds when i could find them that was as they were well hidden. Even rubbing the area back with sand paper, the wire wheel and a scotch brite disk didnt prove that helpful.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon226.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon227.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon228.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon229.jpg
And off
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon230.jpg
Heres the area after a little more cleaning - no further nasties found
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon232.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon233.jpg
I started on the bottom of the sill too but unfortunately ran out of time
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon234.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon235.jpg
This then brings us up to last weekend when i got a good stint on the car.
I got the car up in the air and started to strip the engine down
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate002.jpg
Coolant drained then rad out
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate003.jpg
Disconnected the few wire that there are
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate004.jpg
Exhaust off and gearbox disconnected
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate005.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:53 PM
Then engine out
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate007.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate009.jpg
Leaving me with this
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate010.jpg
Next i set about box and prop centre section removal
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate011.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate019.jpg
So i could make some space for the manta box below
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate012.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate013.jpg
And a couple of comparison shots between the original and the manta box - the original looks tiny!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate016.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate018.jpg
With the old engine and box out of the way (is anyone interested in taking then off my hands?) i decided to try the new engine and box together
1600xe block
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate022.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate023.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate025.jpg
Block plus box - fits a treat
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate027.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate028.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate031.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:53 PM
With the block and box together i couldnt resist trying it in the hole
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate034.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate035.jpg
Im happy with the space around the engine and box
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate036.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate037.jpg
Given that the engine and box went in the hole with little issues i slipped it back out again and started on the engine mounting plates
The easy side
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate038.jpg
all mounting holes square and on the same plane
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate039.jpg
A little CAD (cardboard aided design)
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate040.jpg
Next the other awkward side
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate042.jpg
35mm to make up
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate043.jpg
So i started with this after some measuring
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate044.jpg
That turned in to this to stay close to the block and avoid the coolant pipe
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate045.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate047.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate049.jpg
Once i was happy with the templates i decided to transfer them to metal
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate050.jpg
then up to the workshop and out with my newly acquired plasma cutter
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate051.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 06:55 PM
The first rough cut
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate052.jpg
And after a tidy up
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate053.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate054.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate055.jpg
Annoyingly i dont have a bender so it was a case of heat and beat but it came out ok
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate058.jpg
And i found the required 35mm
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate060.jpg
Not a bad fit either
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate062.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate063.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate064.jpg
Annoyingly i cant get it all welded in to the car as i dont have a gearbox shifter to get the exact position of the engine and box in the car
More next time - Opinions and comments welcome
James
PS sorry for all the pics at once lol
looks cool :) paint on the roof will be heat from the sun I imagine, was it sitting outside for a long time? the crosses are where the strengthening in the roof is, which probably acted as a heat sink.
comptoncj
02-09-10, 07:01 PM
Interesting project James keep up the good work
mk1nova_rich
02-09-10, 07:02 PM
absolutely awesome thread already pal, just sat and read the whole lot :thumb: will subscribe definitely :d also rated it 5 stars lol
WOW
where to start, looks liek you have your work cut out with all the rot, at the top of the wings, where you removed the welded part, they commonly rot, mine had rotted completely(see my thread for pics i think)
set up looks excatly the same as the chevette.
when you/if you remove the subframe, be careful with the two bolts behind the springs, as they are on captive nuts, and one of mine rounded off!
you found a manta box! how much did you pay. and good luck finding the shifter lol. mine came with fortunally.
depending on what prop you use, i have a manta A one with the right end for the gearbox, but wrong probably for the axle.
are you using the standard axle?
and you dont hang about putting the engine in lol.
if i were you, i would do what i done mount wise with the rubbers, as the kadette ones are tiny, i got mine of rally design and screw straight in :)
great work, and any questions just ask :)
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 07:11 PM
Cheers chaps - hopefully more to follow when i have more money/can find the parts i need.
Most of the panels i need to get me started have to come from Germany as they dont really do Kadett stuff here and i need £500 worth :roll: and thats pattern panels not genuine.
looks cool :) paint on the roof will be heat from the sun I imagine, was it sitting outside for a long time? the crosses are where the strengthening in the roof is, which probably acted as a heat sink.
Not a clue if it was sitting outside for a long time it probably was but i think it may have had a roof rack on too.
Not a clue if it was sitting outside for a long time it probably was but i think it may have had a roof rack on too.
That explains the front bit then, short roof rack :) I was guessing at a tree shading it tbh lol
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 07:21 PM
WOW
where to start, looks liek you have your work cut out with all the rot, at the top of the wings, where you removed the welded part, they commonly rot, mine had rotted completely(see my thread for pics i think)
set up looks excatly the same as the chevette.
when you/if you remove the subframe, be careful with the two bolts behind the springs, as they are on captive nuts, and one of mine rounded off!
you found a manta box! how much did you pay. and good luck finding the shifter lol. mine came with fortunally.
depending on what prop you use, i have a manta A one with the right end for the gearbox, but wrong probably for the axle.
are you using the standard axle?
and you dont hang about putting the engine in lol.
if i were you, i would do what i done mount wise with the rubbers, as the kadette ones are tiny, i got mine of rally design and screw straight in :)
great work, and any questions just ask :)
According to the kadett forum this one isnt that rotten there are some complete sh!tters out there.
The setup is very similar to the chevette other that the inner wings are longer apparently. How did you remove the original engine mounts as mine are held by captive nuts and wont move, i already have new uprated mounts from ebay for £5.99 so all is not lost if i destroy them to get them off.
I'm going to use a Reliant Scimitar 4HA axle and 4 link as the standard axle and even the manta axle will die with 200 + bhp.
I got the manta box for £102 i didnt think that was excessive.
manta gsi box? gertrag 240.
all the parts are still available, so it's not that bad.
for it's age it isnt in a bad condition.
last year a complete new GM front was sold for 650 euro :S
According to the kadett forum this one isnt that rotten there are some complete sh!tters out there.
The setup is very similar to the chevette other that the inner wings are longer apparently. How did you remove the original engine mounts as mine are held by captive nuts and wont move, i already have new uprated mounts from ebay for £5.99 so all is not lost if i destroy them to get them off.
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the rubber small ones in the cups?
if so, i think i put two nuts on the top and just undid them?
if not, there is some kind of big flat nut on the bottom IIRC, get a cold chisel on that...
General Baxter
02-09-10, 09:31 PM
im sure one of them holes in the mount is made for the knock sensor lol
but all that space, may a proper charger lol
Awesome dude, looks like it will be a kill project.
You doing this up north or down this way?
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 10:48 PM
manta gsi box? gertrag 240.
all the parts are still available, so it's not that bad.
for it's age it isnt in a bad condition.
last year a complete new GM front was sold for 650 euro :S
Your right for its year its not that bad, and yer its the getrag 240 are the bits still available in europe then or do you mean they still make them for other getrag boxes?
Tell me about the cost of panels you are luck to get a pattern front panel for 650 euro lol
Count Vaux Alot
02-09-10, 10:49 PM
Awesome dude, looks like it will be a kill project.
You doing this up north or down this way?
Down south mate :)
Looks a cool project good luck with it
dj_wudgey
03-09-10, 01:43 PM
thats a class project mate!! im definately watching this one!!!
Your right for its year its not that bad, and yer its the getrag 240 are the bits still available in europe then or do you mean they still make them for other getrag boxes?
Tell me about the cost of panels you are luck to get a pattern front panel for 650 euro lol
sorry, i ment parts for the kadett.
although gertrag 240's are very common overhere, if you cant find the shifter in the UK, i can ask my mate is he still has one (manta freak, has 3 manta's running, and about 4 in spares lol)
nova_niek
03-09-10, 04:04 PM
The first miles I ever drove in a car were in a Kadett-B. Needless to say I have a soft spot for Kadetts. Anyway, great find and have fun restoring it. Seeing as your skills are top notch I'm sure you'll turn this into a very nice motor no worries. And with added turbo power too... subscribed! :thumb::thumb::thumb:
Good luck with her!
Niek
Count Vaux Alot
03-09-10, 04:52 PM
Cheers chaps - i got some more goodies delivered today pics to followand i think i will put the turbo details up here as well at some point.
garethcolley
03-09-10, 05:37 PM
Looks good mate, looking forward to lots of updates!
Gareth
looks good but if i was you id be removing th front carpets and checking the chassis legs, and the two boxes at the top of the wings.
oops pics loaded after i pposted.....
Count Vaux Alot
03-09-10, 06:31 PM
oops pics loaded after i pposted.....
lol
Down south mate :)
Sweet, might have to pop down at some point.
Count Vaux Alot
03-09-10, 08:01 PM
Your more than welcome anytime
what size is the standard engine?
Count Vaux Alot
03-09-10, 08:40 PM
1196 cc on the log book
1200S ohv lol
btw, you have a pm.
1196 cc on the log bookhmmm how much?
discoinferno
04-09-10, 01:33 PM
cool cool project
Count Vaux Alot
04-09-10, 03:39 PM
hmmm how much?
Make me an offer?
Make me an offer?errrrrrr £20 lol
Count Vaux Alot
05-09-10, 03:16 PM
If you collect it then it's yours for £20 do you want the box?
Looks not too bad there James! (more to the point, where is the mk1 thread? grrr lol)
Count Vaux Alot
05-09-10, 04:30 PM
On it's way mate to be fair I haven't done anything to it yet as I can't find any front springs and I need some Tyres for my new wheels so it's just £££ again lol
MattBrown
05-09-10, 04:36 PM
So this kadett is going to be c20let is it?
Or xe powered?
Coming together well.
And that trailor is quite cool
So this kadett is going to be c20let is it?
Or xe powered?
Coming together well.
And that trailor is quite cool
have a re-read matt, it's all in there ;)
On it's way mate to be fair I haven't done anything to it yet as I can't find any front springs and I need some Tyres for my new wheels so it's just £££ again lol
oooo wheels, spill!
Count Vaux Alot
05-09-10, 05:02 PM
lol
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Mk1%20Astra%20Estate/1Astraestate035.jpg
;)
P0rn! Jeez how much have you lowered it by!
If you collect it then it's yours for £20 do you want the box?no i dont need the box bud, which house is this at? lol
peester
05-09-10, 09:35 PM
james, you say you need front springs for the mk1 astra??
if so - are they similar to nova fronts? how much lowered by /free length/ poundage?
may have some..
Novasport
05-09-10, 11:26 PM
They look like my old Irmscher rims! They black with a polished face & rim?
I sold mine to a guy called Mike iirc, down south with a Mk2 GTE Champion. They were brand new from Irmscher Germany, wish I had never sold them.
Still have a couple of the Opel centre caps kicking round which I had misplaced at the time I sold them.
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 04:58 PM
no i dont need the box bud, which house is this at? lol
My house in fordingbridge :d
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 05:00 PM
They look like my old Irmscher rims! They black with a polished face & rim?
I sold mine to a guy called Mike iirc, down south with a Mk2 GTE Champion. They were brand new from Irmscher Germany, wish I had never sold them.
Still have a couple of the Opel centre caps kicking round which I had misplaced at the time I sold them.
Im not sure eactly what they are i thought they were expression/champion wheels that had been powder coated and dimond cut - they guy i got them off brought them from germany for his mk2 golf only to realise they were vaux offset and looked wrong. £80 later and they were mine :d
Novasport
06-09-10, 06:21 PM
They do look like Irmscher rims, you should be able to tell by the gap between the rim an the spokes. The spokes on the expression rims go further out into the rim & the Irmscher & champ rims have a gap which makes it easier to diamond cut the rim.
I recognise those wheels. Opel Monza seems to spring to mind? Maybe not
edit - no not off a monza, its killing me not knowing because I recognise them. Nice project btw I read it the other day
craig green
06-09-10, 06:49 PM
Great project(s) James, something to really get your teeth into.
I've been watching upto now but meant to add some positive comment.
My house in fordingbridge :dwhat the feck are you doing all the way down there lol. may be able to pick it up Saturday if your about?
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 10:10 PM
what the feck are you doing all the way down there lol. may be able to pick it up Saturday if your about?
yer mate should be about all day
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 10:12 PM
Evening
Got a bit done tonight, slipped the old engine mounts off not in the most delicate fashion but they are off
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate070.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate075.jpg
I got a present in the post last week so i thought i would do some thing with that too
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate065.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate066.jpg
Core size is 500mm x 320mm x 90mm and its bang on
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate067.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate068.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate069.jpg
In order to get it to fit were i wanted it to i needed to remove the battery tray
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate071.jpg
And the original radiator mounting
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate072.jpg
I think they must have had a new spot welder to test out the day they build this one
Two here
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate073.jpg
Several here but i added a few extra holes for fun
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate074.jpg
And two here
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate076.jpg
I then moved on the the rad support
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate077.jpg
These came out nicely
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate078.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate079.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 10:12 PM
Out with the grinder
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate081.jpg
And the battery tray
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate083.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate085.jpg
Loads of room
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate084.jpg
And this now fits here a treat
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate088.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate090.jpg
More soon hopefully
was it luck that it fits that well?
p.s. pm ;)
craig green
06-09-10, 10:17 PM
I was thinking, those are possibly THE most over-engineered rad mounts I've ever seen, a stark contrast to the tabs that hold a Nova's in place.
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 10:23 PM
was it luck that it fits that well?
p.s. pm ;)
no it was precision measurement lol
Craig the Kadett appears to have been build to a much higher standard when compared to the nova.
i need to do something similar to mount my BMW rad.
just when i get some balls to chop it lol
also, just out of interest, on your mounts, they have the hole closest to the windscreen,. on the chevette they are in the middle holes!
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 10:42 PM
i need to do something similar to mount my BMW rad.
just when i get some balls to chop it lol
also, just out of interest, on your mounts, they have the hole closest to the windscreen,. on the chevette they are in the middle holes!
Get it cut out you chicken
I think the chevette and Kadett engines are different so that probably explains the difference in mounting positions
yeh yeh, i might chop it tomorrow night, depending on the weather lol.
i need to work out some mounts as well.
and be careful of space with that cooler. there isnt alot of room with an XE in there.
and be careful of space with that cooler. there isnt alot of room with an XE in there.
Probably will be with this xe :p
just to say these were american designed and german built, so it is massively over engineered. i have a bmw e36 rad here with integral tank if anyone wants one?
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 11:03 PM
This is were it will sit give or take so there shouldnt be any space issue
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate037.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
06-09-10, 11:03 PM
just to say these were american designed and german built, so it is massively over engineered. i have a bmw e36 rad here with integral tank if anyone wants one?
Pics and dimensions?
count thats the excat same rad im using lol,
it is a big boy, nearly as wide as the chassis.
will get sizes and pic tonight mate. it will be cheap as its in the rents back garden....
dj_wudgey
08-09-10, 12:54 AM
this is a class project this!!
Count Vaux Alot
10-09-10, 03:25 PM
Afternoooooon!
Just thought i would add a few engine/turbo details to the pot, most of you will have seen these if you followed my track day nova progect but i thought i would put all the details in one place.
As said befor im using the 1600xe as a base engine (from the likes of the mid ninties corsa and astra) i will be keeping the head, block and crank from the 1600xe then i will be using the turbo, rods, and pistons from a corsa vxr to turbo charge the 1600xe along with some stand alone management.
The block its self needs to be boared out slightly to accept the vxr pistons (there are 3 different sizes available) and this is the ideal oppertunity to have some under piston oil squirters fitted too. The inlet manifold will need to be a custom job as the 1600xe inlet is useful for nothing and the corsa vxr inlet doesnt fit the 1600xe head (yes i have tried).
Here is the turbo when i did the initial mock up last year when i planned on fitting the engine in my track day nova
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo007.jpg
As you can see the turbo fits the 1600xe head bang on
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo004.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo005.jpg
There are however a couple of initial complications that need to be solved
The turbo out let is very close to the oil filter mounting location - so i will be relocating the filter
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo008.jpg
And the original compressor cover is an awkward shape so i will be modifiying it or worst case replacing it.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo009.jpg
And here is a sample of the corsa VXR pistons i will be using
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo002.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo003.jpg
And a comparison of the vxr piston and a standard 1600xe piston
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo013.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo014.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/1600turbo015.jpg
The corsa vxr produces 189bhp as standard and im looking for ' somthing over 200bhp' so i decided to hybrid the turbo to help me towards my goal
Basically i have gone for a simple compressor wheel upgrade allowing for more lower down and mid range torque and a bit more at the top end as well as the obvious power increase that a higher flowing comp wheel offers.
Another beneficial factor is i could achieved the same power as a standard vxr with lower boost pressure due to the increased ability of the new comp wheel over the standard wheel, or more power at the same boost pressure :D
On the lathe
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/DSC00597.jpg
Here is the standard vxr compressor wheel, its a fairly new design of wheel with a cut back skirt and is capable of flowing 190 bhp easily and 220 bhp at its upper limits
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010064.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010068.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010071.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
10-09-10, 03:26 PM
And here is the upgraded comp wheel - its basically and audi TT 225 bhp wheel so its well capable of flowing 225 bhp and would probably see 300 bhp with higher boost
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010065.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010069.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010070.jpg
To put things in to perspective here are the two compressor wheels side by side, vxr on the left TT on the right
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010066.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010067.jpg
Its clear to see by eye how much larger the TT wheel is
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010072.jpg
To finish the upgrade some material needs to be removed from the back plate to accommodate the new larger TT wheel, the shiny ring in the inner circle is were the material was removed from.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010073.jpg
vxr comp wheel
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010074.jpg
TT comp wheel
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010075.jpg
Here is the vxr wheel in the compressor cover, you can see how much the compressor cover inlet has been enlarged to fit the TT wheel.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010078.jpg
An the new larger TT wheel nice and snug
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010079.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010076.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
10-09-10, 03:26 PM
I also had the compressor cover machine bead polished for good measure and fook me did it come out well!
The polished finish is achieved by the high frequency vibration of stainless steel beads apparently - no messy buffing involved Benn! I did do some prep on the casting before hand although they do turn out well with out and pre at all.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010054.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010053.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010055.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010058.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010060.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/redophotosforfolksy2010062.jpg
porn mate, pure porn. forgot to get rad pics yesterday i will sort em today.
Count Vaux Alot
10-09-10, 03:59 PM
Here are some other bits cleaned i cleaned up at work
Sump - i dont know if this will need modifying? why do people opt for the 'big wing' manta sump? is is just for increased oil capacity?
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild004.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild002.jpg
Lower half of the inlet manifold
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild005.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild006.jpg
As you can see it already has positions for the injectors and the original fuel rail will suit larger c20let injectors
Then I will combine this with somthing like http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/D-Shape-I....sQ5fAccessories
for the plenum section
And a few other bits
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild008.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild014.jpg
And the cam cover
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild015.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Track%20day%20nova/enginecleanandrebuild017.jpg
manta sump wont fit mate, its designed for big blocks....
Count Vaux Alot
10-09-10, 04:26 PM
manta sump wont fit mate, its designed for big blocks....
I know it wont fit...i asked 'i dont know if this will need modifying? why do people opt for the 'big wing' manta sump? is is just for increased oil capacity?'
Not will the manta sump fit :roll: basically do i need to 'big wing' this sump or will it be ok as is?
the reason for the big wing is to clear the x member in rwd cars where spacce is tight. if it was me i'd foam the inside of the std one and have done.
Christ awesome work with the turbo and comp wheel.
I've seen the bead polishing before, its ment to be very very good, but not many people that can do it...
milko96
10-09-10, 09:03 PM
Nice!
I'm doing the same engine build for my loon!
This guy put a x16xe in his Chevette, may be of help...
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/drift-car-projects-builds/73973-project-chevette-slow-steady.html
peester
10-09-10, 09:21 PM
im modifying my x16xe sump a tad for a little more ground clearace.. just chopping and shortening it by half an inch or so..
i thought the 'wing' mod manta owners did was to help against starvation as theyre cast sumps arent baffled..?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/peester/GLSengineswap026.jpg
the rack sits under the front half of the sump I believe, the "wings" are for the capacity lost where the rack sits.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/kadettcwagon081.jpg
Its got a GTE skirt on her!
mk999999999999999999999 is right, a manta sump has the deeper part of the pan on the other side, to avoid the steering/front axle.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a397/leavingeasy/M3/IMG_2816.jpg
craig green
10-09-10, 10:23 PM
Great update james. Loving the nitty-gritty turbo stuff.
Count Vaux Alot
11-09-10, 12:00 AM
Thanks for the input chaps beaulieu auto jumble on tomorrow so hopefully there will be some bits there.
Count Vaux Alot
13-09-10, 12:40 PM
Ok so all being good i think i have sourced the bits i need for the gearbox fingers crossed!
I had quite a busy weekend (a trip to Beaulieu auto jumble and a 400mile round journey to collect an axle) but I did managed to get a few bits done in the little time i had on sat afternoon, but not much.
I made sure the new engine mounts would actually sit on the cross member as they did look quite large (a bargin at £5.99 posted from ebay) they are uprated ones for a range rover V8 apparently.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate092.jpg
Remover the wiring loom from the engine bay
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate093.jpg
And tucked it back through the bulk head
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate094.jpg
Then removed the heater box and fan along with a selection of debris
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate100.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate101.jpg
So that was saturday - sunday was road trip time and thankfully it was drama free, i left mine at 10:10 and got back at 17:35 with my parts on board.
For the sum of £120 i got one scimitar se5 axle complete, the prop end to suite and 5 rostyles i think i did ok.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate102.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate103.jpg
Shes a bute
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate104.jpg
Scimitar prop end
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate105.jpg
I got a free wheel too as it wouldnt come off - the hammer sorted that out
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate106.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate107.jpg
Then began to strip all the bits off so i could stow it easily
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate108.jpg
It took the breaker bar and the large ratchet to shift some of the nuts
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate109.jpg
The original box section for the 4link/sus mounts looked very sorry for its self luckily this needs removing anyway
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate111.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate112.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
13-09-10, 12:41 PM
Here is were it rests for the time being.
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate113.jpg
nice axle, will you be keeping the watts linkage?
Count Vaux Alot
13-09-10, 02:14 PM
No mate the watts linkage wont be used as i'm going to utilise the standard panhard rod mount on the shell for ease.
ok kool, if so id be strengthening the mount, i posted a link to a kit on bmw's chevette thread. they crack off from the shell. is it lsd?
Count Vaux Alot
13-09-10, 04:15 PM
I know about the mount already - it will be strengthened dont worry - its not lsd yet.
good progress mate. if you want. i can take some pics of my sump in the car,
and some dimensions if you wish.
it is a very tight fit getting the sump in and it would be an engine out job for a sump removal IMO.
and mayhem is right about the sump, its all to clear the steering rack etc.
Count Vaux Alot
21-09-10, 10:43 PM
Hi Guys made a little more progress over the weekend while i wasnt working on my other project (more to follow on that soon!)
Drilled the holes on the o/s engine mounting bracket plate
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate114.jpg
Tapped the holes out on the engine block
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate119.jpg
And fitted the bracket plate (the spacers are only there as i didn't have short enough bolts)
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate120.jpg
Then as i wasnt happy with the n/s plate as it want quite large enough so I remade it in 6mm this time
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate121.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate122.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate123.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate125.jpg
Finally i found the gear shifter but i as still missing the brackets and shifter rod for the time being so i made up a bracket out of an off cut of box section just for fitment purposes
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate115.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate116.jpg
The shifter is now sitting as it should
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate117.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate118.jpg
So the next job was to slip the engine back in again
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate126.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate127.jpg
I fitted the sump to see if it would clear the cross member
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate128.jpg
Count Vaux Alot
21-09-10, 10:43 PM
And surprisingly it appears to (bearing in mind the sump is fitted loosely so will go up at leas another 5mm)
(the spacers are only there as i didn't have short enough bolts)
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate129.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate132.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate133.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate134.jpg
Although its not all sitting in exactly the right place yet the engine mounts look like they will line up well too!
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg167/Count85/Opel%20Kadett%20C%20wagon/Kadettestate135.jpg
dj_wudgey
21-09-10, 11:02 PM
will be abit of a b*stard putting the engine back in when you have painted it all!! good progress though mate!!
lush result on the sump clearance, its all looking a tad easy at the mo
I am guessing that you will need to fashion a new sump...?
I know they are baffled on the 1.6 16v, but I would have thought you would need to tweak the shape of the 'bowl'
will be abit of a b*stard putting the engine back in when you have painted it all!! good progress though mate!!
the best way is to get the back end in the air.. i've got a rover sd1 manual that actually recommends jacking it up 3'...
or get the whole car higher. & use one of those threaded thingys that you can tilt the engine with.
dj_wudgey
22-09-10, 12:23 PM
the best way is to get the back end in the air.. i've got a rover sd1 manual that actually recommends jacking it up 3'...
or get the whole car higher. & use one of those threaded thingys that you can tilt the engine with.
yea it sounds like a b*stard to me then lol id end up scratching my new shiney bay having to get that in there!! it looks like you need some patience for doing it any way lol which i dont have!
i couldnt fit my box with the shifter on, we had to remove it.
but good work on the sump you lucky bugger!
and ill have a look at mybox when i get a chance to see what goes to the shifter to change the gears :)
keep it up
Count Vaux Alot
22-09-10, 02:59 PM
the best way is to get the back end in the air.. i've got a rover sd1 manual that actually recommends jacking it up 3'...
or get the whole car higher. & use one of those threaded thingys that you can tilt the engine with.
The back ends off the floor by about 4 inches :thumb:
3' is 3 feet!!!!! imagine the fun with jacking that much...
i once swapped an engine in an old pickup after 8 of us basically lifted it up in the air & put it on bales of straw.. not that i'd recommend it these days, but it served a purpose
ben doodar
23-09-10, 04:40 PM
Great work count. Very interesting project you have going on. Will be keeping an eye on this.
Awesome project mate no doubt it will be another one to talk about when it's finished. Very interesting what you've done with the turbo (hybrid) fancy doing mine :p aha
Count Vaux Alot
22-01-11, 07:24 PM
Thanks gunny this ones kinda on hold until I bite the bullet and spend the money on the panels I need - I may be changing the comp cover as well so the polished cover and upgraded comp wheel will be forsale. Give me a pm if your interested.
Ah right bit of a bill there then! Pm on it's way
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