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Anyone watch it? Some pretty scary stuff on that program, especially the story about the guy who murdered the abortion surgeon, and his reverend mate who was convinced it was more evil to abort a child than to murder someone who does it!
religion is the second biggest killer on the planet, after old age..... and the buggers have the monopoly on that too.... all that tea & biscuits to get the will altered etc.........
my missus had to listen to the anti abortion claptrap speach when she was a student nurse, yet when her colleagues asked for a pro choice speaker to come in, the (very religious) lecturer said no....
their view is that if a girl gets raped & pregnant, she should carry the baby & keep it.. as they think she was partly or wholly to blame for leading the man into temptation.
i CBA to watch this crap any more... were there many women anti protesters?? cos its usually men in snazzy suits on these shows
i CBA to watch this crap any more... were there many women anti protesters?? cos its usually men in snazzy suits on these shows
No it was nothing like those shows, it was actually really good. He travelled around talking to various religious people, one being one of these big bucks preachers who accused him of being 'arrogant' for not embracing god (irony of the decade) and a muslim who used to be a jew, telling him he needs to sort his women out because of the lack of clothing they are allowed to wear etc.
What I liked most was he didn't just smile at them and nod his head, he got stuck in and argued with them, at one point he said to a catholic school headmaster 'you're teaching your children that the earth is only 10,000 years old, i mean really, are you serious???'
my eldest is at a catholic high school & they don't even attempt to push the creation story.. they spend more time trying to explain to them that they mustn't shag, and when they do, they mustn't use contraception because its their duty as a catholic is to breed like a rabbit.... and molly isn't a catholic, so they sort of leave her alone......
and molly goes to a baptist youth group (her friend got her into it ) and a woman there brought in a kit of science stuff that 'proved' that the dinosaurs were less than 6000 years old....molly just told me that she knew it was rubbish.
Damn it. I set the Sky planner for this and it failed. Guess I will have to catch it on 4OD, although I already know very firmly where I stand on the whole religion issue. Sounds like this program was quite the eye opener for many though, and nice to hear it's not just the usual 'the Vatican have condemmed the actions of XXXX' etc etc.
Religion has its place. Unfortunately, it very rarely sits quietly in that place.
Religion has its place. Unfortunately, it very rarely sits quietly in that place.
Agreed. It's called the fictional section of the library.
religion was the ancient world's way of answering things. the old testament is basically a family history of a tribe that lived in modern day iraq/iran/turkey. the tribe became the jewish. the great flood happened... it was when the ice age was finishing & the blck sea was formed. its been proven beyond doubt. noah & his animals is a version of it. but since they tagged the jesus thing onto it, the trouble started..
this might sound stupid, but did anyone watch big brother last night, as its got that booky john guy in it.
and he had a rant about how god doesnt excist and it was very convincing and made some good points.
and i think kelly has read the book the god delusion or something along those lines.
i dont believe it. i look at whats happening right in front of me, and deal with it. the here and now!
Was this a Dickhead Dawkins program?
My dad is deeply agnostic, almost to the extent hes religious about his non religiousness. He got into the Dawkins books and rants and raves about them, to an almost worryingly 'extremist' level.
I simply dont give a toss either way and dont goto great lengths to sit on one side of the fence or the other.
stu. at least you don't have to shell out on a christmas present for him then..... which i believe was invented as a way to get people into religion... tell a child that if they are good, an old bloke with a white beard will bring you a bag of presents.......instant love of the church....gary glitter tried it & got 3 years
Was this a Dickhead Dawkins program?
My dad is deeply agnostic, almost to the extent hes religious about his non religiousness. He got into the Dawkins books and rants and raves about them, to an almost worryingly 'extremist' level.
I simply dont give a toss either way and dont goto great lengths to sit on one side of the fence or the other.
He's not agnostic, he's athiest. Sounds like you are more agnostic lol
My ex used to rant about the non exsistence of God and how when we die, we are just worm food and thats it. but this fact scared the crap out of him and he was quite scared of dying.
Im definitly not a bible basher but I think having some sort of belief system is harmless enough. Its just the people that cant let other people have different beliefs that causes all the problems.
My ex used to rant about the non exsistence of God and how when we die, we are just worm food and thats it. but this fact scared the crap out of him and he was quite scared of dying.
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same as me,apart from ranting about non existence:(
Angus Closier
27-08-10, 09:52 PM
To be honest I more a believer in science, I just cant believe most of the ridicules rubbish that comes out of lots of religious peoples mouths. Untill they can prove me there is such thing I wont believe it. But im sure they believe the same and till I prove he is not real.............blahhh
My ex used to rant about the non exsistence of God and how when we die, we are just worm food and thats it. but this fact scared the crap out of him and he was quite scared of dying.
I would say are you sure you're not talking about me, but then I'm not scared of death.
...well obviously I'd rather not go in a horrifically gakky way, but the thought of dying and that being the end doesn't grip my emotions with terror. I don't need the comforting tales of an afterlife to help my brain come to terms with the short and fragile nature of life. After all, the human body is a mere bag of flesh, bones and bio electricity that merely ceases to function on death.
I would say are you sure you're not talking about me, but then I'm not scared of death.
...well obviously I'd rather not go in a horrifically gakky way, but the thought of dying and that being the end doesn't grip my emotions with terror. I don't need the comforting tales of an afterlife to help my brain come to terms with the short and fragile nature of life. After all, the human body is a mere bag of flesh, bones and bio electricity that merely ceases to function on death.
and your not my ex. ... ? or are you dumping me via png. lol
I agree about the body being just that.. a body. but I do think there is something to be said about the belief in a soul and what happens to that when the body gives up.
Death doesn't scare me one little bit. Lets face it, we've all been dead billions of years longer than we've been alive, so we've all experienced death already.
Seeing it coming however, is a different matter. Thats what is scary, and as hayley said, I totally understand the reasons for religion, and someone who believes 100% that they will be going somewhere better when they die will be a damn site less scared that me when on the old death bed.
But on the flip side, how much of this precious life we are given is being wasted by people who are devoting the only very very short life they have to ensuring a place in this afterlife? I feel sorry for these people in the long run. I would much rather devote my life to living it to the full and having to put up with a tiny amount of my last hours in mortal terror than spend half my life praying to a deity.
Religion is a terrible contradiction, on one side it gives people comfort and can help people when they are lost and need guidance, and on the other its the main cause of war and death and suffering.
The sheer amount of religious people in the world today leads me to a disconcerting fact, and that is that as a race, we can not move forwards and develop into a new realm with the existence of religion, and at the same time, we probably can't move forwards without it, as the human race as a whole still obviously can't come to terms with its own mortality.
what happens then if you have been a "cunnt" and dont believe in anything
what happens then if you have been a "cunnt" and dont believe in anything
What do you mean 'what happens'?
You will die like the rest of us. OR you will go to hell as far as a christian is concerned.
Seeing as the world is obviously un biased about bad things happening to good people, and good things happening to bad people, i would draw the conclusion it will be the former.
as in what are you classed as?
agree with your statement
as in what are you classed as?
Still dont follow you me old fruitcake lol
your religion or following? or if you believe in nothing? what are you then???
your religion or following? or if you believe in nothing? what are you then???
You are an Athiest :)
or if your unsure or don't care either way, you are an agnostic.
its a complicated world,im christened myself,have 2 christened children, and dont know if im a god believer or christian or non beleiver or what,never really had time to give it much thought,thats why im confused,and before anyone asks,i got kids christened so they could make their own minds up when theyre old enough
its a complicated world,im christened myself,have 2 christened children, and dont know if im a god believer or christian or non beleiver or what,never really had time to give it much thought,thats why im confused,and before anyone asks,i got kids christened so they could make their own minds up when theyre old enough
Id say you were definately agnostic :)
thanks lee,me "new" "fruitcake" lol
is that a bad thing,?
Its aload of bollox.
Anyone who thinks there are billions of burning souls sitting round a campfire toasting marshmallows in earths core, or thinks the soul of there best mates mothers dogs cousion is sitting next to a "god" being waited on hand & foot by ten bazillion virgins really is a crackajack mother fcuker.
Ya born, ya take a ****. Ya die, ya get chucked in a hole. Pretty dam simple maths if you ask me Im afraid.
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