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I've just got the log books through the post from transferring my plate off the Cav onto the Nova.
Now they say ' This document is not proof of ownership'
So what does prove you own it then? Procession is 9/10th's etc etc?
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L33 LEG
24-08-10, 11:47 AM
Have they not always said that?
They've always said that. The V5c has always been labelled "registered keeper" which does not = owner ;)
the dvla owns your car, you just look after it for them. thats without the legal waffle....
The DVLA owns the right for youre car to be registered on the road nothing else! ;)
If you buy a car the DVLA dont own it:tard: You can buy a car not use it on the road and the dvla have no ownership over it what so ever:thumb:!
/\ wrong, when you first register it on the road it transfers to the dvla mate. i'll find the last thread about it.
here, look at the p/f link
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114513&highlight=escort
MattBrown
24-08-10, 05:30 PM
/\ wrong, when you first register it on the road it transfers to the dvla mate. i'll find the last thread about it.
So why dont we all go and rob cars then?
How can you insure a car?
Its fronting if the dvla owns it:roll:
So why dont we all go and rob cars then? cos im no pikey like you? that question bears no reality on this thread
How can you insure a car? call the insurance company, and pay your money
Its fronting if the dvla owns it:roll:
oh ffs matt, read the thread i posted, the answer is in there, its not fronting because the insurance companies know about it. its in the legal docs when you first register a new car.
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Right, after a lengthy discussing with a nice person (the first nice person ever) at the DVLA, the ownership of the vehicles registration (chassis numbers, plate, documents and V5) is held by the DVLA, the actual car is the owner's. As for the blatant twocking of others cars, this rule only applies to cars that have been left abandoned, it has to be on a public highway, have a non contactable owner (by sending one letter:eek:) and not be stolen! However if the owner of the abandoned car gets in contact with the DVLA and can prove that they couldnt get back in touch then they have the right to get the car back in their possession (obviously by paying the fines and other outstanding fee's)!!
hmm different to what i was told when i enquired about it before. remember the dvla cant decide whether its ass is countersunk, bored, or punched, i'd not trust feck all they say.
hmm different to what i was told when i enquired about it before. remember the dvla cant decide whether its ass is countersunk, bored, or punched, i'd not trust feck all they say.
lollollollollolThats what i was thinking when i came off the phone!
ok, based on what GND16V (DVLA) says
where does ringing come into the picture.
surly you could "acquire" an VIN etc for say a nova gsi. (remembering its the DVLA's)
then you could buy a nova and put the new identity on it, and as long as the log book etc is ok and all square no one will ever know.
it works IMO, because all the DVLA know is that vin xxxxxx is on a nova, so when they go to look at it, as long as its a nova, in the colour they know it, with the engine they know it has, and has the vins etc, they cant prove otherwise.
ok, based on what GND16V (DVLA) says
where does ringing come into the picture.
surly you could "acquire" an VIN etc for say a nova gsi. (remembering its the DVLA's)
then you could buy a nova and put the new identity on it, and as long as the log book etc is ok and all square no one will ever know.
it works IMO, because all the DVLA know is that vin xxxxxx is on a nova, so when they go to look at it, as long as its a nova, in the colour they know it, with the engine they know it has, and has the vins etc, they cant prove otherwise.
Because the cars chassis number thats on the shell corresponds to the V5 and vin plate with the REG number, so you'd have to remove the chassis number on the car shell and replace it which is what they do when ringing the cars!!
Getting complicated lol Now you know why the DVLA take so long to get stuff done lol lol lol
TBH as Rob says they dont know theyre ass from there elbow so it could be completely different if you spoke to someone else, which is probably why so many ringers and write off's used to slip through the net without the proper checks etc etc!
A V5 can be in any ones name. The receipt from buying the car shows the owner.
My mates owns his Astra, but the V5 is in his wife's name as its "her car"
So have you got a receipt fr your car Benn? I haven't!
I dont for mine. Does that mean Lee still owns it? :(
The DVLA don't have the authority to decide who is what, thats the job of law.
Anyway. The law isn't exactly clear on the issue, but here's a rough guide to terms:
Registered Keeper is considered to be the person who's name is on the V5c. This can be an individual or company.
Keeper is considered to be the person who holds the vehicle.
Driver is considered to be the person who was using/driving the car at a particular point in time.
Example:
I am the Registered Keeper of my car as my name is on the V5c. If I then give the car to Hayley to use for a period of time, she becomes the Keeper. If her dad then takes the car to go to the shops, at the time he is using it he is the Driver.
This might seem quite trivial, but each individual has a different role to play in the eyes of the law. Having said that, the term Keeper is often used in place of both Keeper and Registered Keeper.
"ownership" is kinda the wrong term to use really. Vehicle laws only really relate to the terms set out above; anything other than that starts to cross into the Theft Act. I can summarize the points of "belonging" (which IMO soft of implies ownership) if you reaaallly want? lol
So have you got a receipt fr your car Benn? I haven't!
No, you dont offer get them when buying a car at the side of the road... I bid him in the nuts and left.
But if some one tried to say it was.t mine, i'd cut their face.
blue_peg_16v
25-08-10, 09:14 PM
v5 has never been proof of ownership just provides details of the registered keeper,
as a number of people can have an interest in a car such as finance company etc
also mazz you dont own your private plate its sort of a loan agreement, you pay an amount to buy it and assign it to a car but if you miss use such as bad spacing (have to be caught a few times though by shirty coppers) or if you dont renew your retention when its off a vehicle it becomes the dvlas again so your renting it
All registration marks are "owned" by the DVLA, not just premium ones.They are merely issued to cars and (by proxy) their keepers.
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