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novanova636
16-08-10, 08:06 PM
Hi. Just got my Gaz coilovers. Just tried to fit the rear ones but they are catching the inner arch alot. So I am going to turret them. Just had a look in the articles section for a how to but couldn't see one. What is the best way to go about doing it?

Cheers dave

General Baxter
16-08-10, 08:08 PM
how bad is it catching, use a hammer lol

novanova636
16-08-10, 08:23 PM
Pretty bad mate. Gave it a good whack with a hammer but wasn't enough

Pistol Pete
16-08-10, 08:31 PM
I dressed mine with a hammer. Have a look in my WIP thread. If done properly you can hardly notice.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Pete_58/Nova/IMGP0716.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Pete_58/Nova/IMGP0721.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/Pete_58/Nova/IMGP0725.jpg

stt
16-08-10, 08:32 PM
theres some pics in This thread (http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=149297)

and you should reinforce your beam too!

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2113/beamreinforced.jpg

novanova636
16-08-10, 08:40 PM
Cheers for the replys. I take it I have to cut the chasie rail? Also I can't really see where you have added extra plates to the rear beam?

Benn
16-08-10, 08:50 PM
Si, i need to send you my beam...lol

stt
16-08-10, 09:02 PM
what do you need doing to yours Ben?

OP: im sure someone will have a pic of a standard beam so you can see whats added

Benn
16-08-10, 09:03 PM
I have the std shock mount... Having a much stronger one would be good.

Mark
16-08-10, 09:04 PM
STT, have you got a before pic as a comparison?

Benn
16-08-10, 09:10 PM
I do.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Turbo%20rims/IMG_4002.jpg

stt
16-08-10, 09:29 PM
I do.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b316/bennh3/Turbo%20rims/IMG_4002.jpg

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2113/beamreinforced.jpg

just so that both pics are on the same page for comparison

My mount is about 15-20mm further inboard - to gove better wheel clearance, and is 25mm further forward so that the shock operates in a more vertical plane - giving you more clearance in the turret itself.

my mount itself is made out of 3mm steel - as it now has to support the weight of the car
and the mount also sits on a 3mm platform

hth

novanova636
16-08-10, 09:49 PM
When you moved the beam mount did you move the top mount at all?

stt
16-08-10, 09:51 PM
i moved the top in about 15mm to give me a bit more clearance from the tyre so i can run wider rear tyres!

skud52
16-08-10, 09:58 PM
hi, ive recently done this to mines, more for the fact i wanted 2 sit as low as possible, bout the mk2 escort turrets from rally design due 2 the fact for the price it wasnt worth making my own, ive added a weld in brace aswell, and now it sits about 5 inch lower than my mates 60mm drop,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00420.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00421.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00387-1.jpg

last pic is next to a nova with gaz coilovers without turrets

Rysee
16-08-10, 09:58 PM
Sorry to but in but is it normal(well I know it's dodgy) for the part hub-side where the 17mm bolt goes through to bend?

Pistol Pete
16-08-10, 10:00 PM
I would guess from looking at Benns pic, some grinding has been going on. Maybe he bent it to gain access??

stt
16-08-10, 10:03 PM
do you mean this bit
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/9172/standardrearbeam.jpg

As standard its only ever designed to provide mounting for the shock absorber and not to support the weight of the rear of the car.

Rysee
16-08-10, 10:04 PM
yeah stt, I bent it back though so it's all good. My Nova's is really strong, my Corsa's is like cheese

novanova636
16-08-10, 10:18 PM
hi, ive recently done this to mines, more for the fact i wanted 2 sit as low as possible, bout the mk2 escort turrets from rally design due 2 the fact for the price it wasnt worth making my own, ive added a weld in brace aswell, and now it sits about 5 inch lower than my mates 60mm drop,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00420.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00421.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00387-1.jpg

last pic is next to a nova with gaz coilovers without turrets

have you got any pictures of the rear beam mounts?

skud52
16-08-10, 10:37 PM
have you got any pictures of the rear beam mounts?
my rear beam mount is standard but since seeing this thread i am more than interested in doing somthing similar 2 what has been shown earlier in the thread!

craig green
16-08-10, 10:38 PM
Beating the inner arch with a hammer might seem fine, but it splits the seam/spot welds between boot floor & inner wheel house, not good

novanova636
16-08-10, 10:44 PM
Beating the inner arch with a hammer might seem fine, but it splits the seam/spot welds between boot floor & inner wheel house, not good

yeah i will be doing it the correct way!

Benn
17-08-10, 08:10 AM
My beams been trimmed for the 5stud fitment.

Stuart
17-08-10, 01:16 PM
note when you drop the car it might clear ok... CP found that out with his avos.

if you have gaz golds then no chance lol

novanova636
17-08-10, 01:24 PM
note when you drop the car it might clear ok... CP found that out with his avos.

if you have gaz golds then no chance lol


I can't even get the bottom of the shock in the mount! Lol

Stuart
17-08-10, 01:33 PM
the joy of +/- 5mm

Sloth
17-08-10, 01:50 PM
/\ so i've been told lol

try and get the round turrets as ive heard of the square ones stress cracking on the edges...

novanova636
17-08-10, 02:00 PM
I will be getting mine folded. Then welded to the body!

Sloth
17-08-10, 02:04 PM
curved is better asd it doesnt over stress one area mate

Mark
17-08-10, 02:09 PM
Ooops, wrong thread, sorry.

stt
17-08-10, 05:05 PM
Having fitted both round and square profile turrets into novas I would go for square over round any day due to the ease of fitment, I appreciate what you are saying about stress points but providing the materials are adequately specced and the welding is good you shouldn't have a problem!

Stuart
17-08-10, 05:09 PM
indeed, its not like the Nova is a Comet lol

tony k
18-08-10, 10:31 AM
im looking into getting this done,will get the ones from rallydesign,as they have been used alot on novas,plus there not that dear,i have had my beam bracket welded up might get it strengthend more now,as seeing some of these pics

novanova636
18-08-10, 08:53 PM
What dimensions have people done them?

Paul
19-08-10, 01:13 AM
IMO Square turrets look shat.

danderv
28-08-10, 11:12 PM
If you fit rear turrets does that mean the rear seats will no longer fit?

novanova636
28-08-10, 11:26 PM
I have no back seats anyway. But they should fit if you have some.

Benn
28-08-10, 11:27 PM
If you fit rear turrets does that mean the rear seats will no longer fit?

Should be miles away from the seats.

Mieran
29-08-10, 07:47 AM
hi, ive recently done this to mines, more for the fact i wanted 2 sit as low as possible, bout the mk2 escort turrets from rally design due 2 the fact for the price it wasnt worth making my own, ive added a weld in brace aswell, and now it sits about 5 inch lower than my mates 60mm drop,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00420.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00421.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/skud52/DSC00387-1.jpg

last pic is next to a nova with gaz coilovers without turrets

Can you post link of the ones you bought mate.

They list a few designs

rallypvc
29-08-10, 09:51 AM
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2113/beamreinforced.jpg

just so that both pics are on the same page for comparison

My mount is about 15-20mm further inboard - to gove better wheel clearance, and is 25mm further forward so that the shock operates in a more vertical plane - giving you more clearance in the turret itself.

my mount itself is made out of 3mm steel - as it now has to support the weight of the car
and the mount also sits on a 3mm platform

hth

lovin this idea think i'll have ago as i need more clearence for rear tyres did you find it easy? i've done a bit of fabricating dosen't look too hard

novanova636
29-08-10, 12:07 PM
I also did this. The hardest thing was getting the original bracket of. Hammer and chisel. But also moving it forward in inboard gives better clearance and makes the coilover sit straighter!

danderv
29-08-10, 07:31 PM
Can you post link of the ones you bought mate.

They list a few designs
Ditto^

skud52
30-08-10, 01:41 PM
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=4313

danderv
30-08-10, 04:08 PM
Cheers mate as i thought it would be the other one

danderv
30-08-10, 04:16 PM
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2113/beamreinforced.jpg

just so that both pics are on the same page for comparison

My mount is about 15-20mm further inboard - to gove better wheel clearance, and is 25mm further forward so that the shock operates in a more vertical plane - giving you more clearance in the turret itself.

my mount itself is made out of 3mm steel - as it now has to support the weight of the car
and the mount also sits on a 3mm platform

hth
I can't see what you are talking about as for some reason the bottom half of the picture is blanked out on my laptop.Could you repost the picture mate?