WideArch Offset

[Mark]

Not having dealt with the WideArch kits myself before, does anyone know what the best offset to use is?

This is my friends recent purchase..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/CorsaNova/Nova/utf-8BSU1HMDA3NTMtMjAxMDA4MDUtMTkyNy5qcGc.jpg

It currently has 17 Inch MiM's with an unknown offset and he wants to go down to 16 Inch wheels.

Thanks

[Southie]

Give Dan a PM. ;)

[Stuart]

have a play with my sig link ;)

I know the answer, but Dan would actually murder me

[Will F]

Ahhh - so thats it!

Likely that those Mims could be Vaux Friendly - 42-49 I reckon!

Racelines would look and fit well! ;)

[mowgli]

dans are very wide wheels, with std suspension arms.

some are already fitted with longer arms to push the wheels out further...

[Mark]

Well, should hopefully know what offset the MiM's are tonight, and then fingers crossed it'll have some fresh 16's *cough* racelines *cough*

[Lee]

You can work it out yourself using the wheels that are on the car, they might even have the offset stamped on them.

[MattBrown]

Whats the crack then, if you can "fit and forget" wide wheels, why do people wide track cars?

I thought about widening the beam 30mm each side, and running corsa for suspention to try and bring it out due to longer tie bars.

[Mark]

You can work it out yourself using the wheels that are on the car, they might even have the offset stamped on them.

Thats the easy option and hopefully doable tonight, but his car is stored on a friends farm so not to easy to just pop out and look. :thumb:

[mowgli]

Whats the crack then, if you can "fit and forget" wide wheels, why do people wide track cars?

I thought about widening the beam 30mm each side, and running corsa for suspention to try and bring it out due to longer tie bars.

there are all sorts of factors... tyre width regs for competition classes.... suspension travel, budget......

the wheels dan fitted are a work of art & cost a few pennies

[AlexW]

Whats the crack then, if you can "fit and forget" wide wheels, why do people wide track cars?

I thought about widening the beam 30mm each side, and running corsa for suspention to try and bring it out due to longer tie bars.

Even that setup isnt easy, yeah you could run a corsa rear beam, corsa rack and maybe corsa tiebars, but your still need to make lower arms, move out the strut (or make bits up for moving the hub out).

I would presume there might be some slight handling differances between uber wide wheels vs widetrack.

[bazil]

Walden engineering from the Norf os Scotland used to do a widetrack nova set up, proper job with lenghtened arms etc, iirc the rear was a simple hub spacer iirc 30mm ish

[mowgli]

a lad tried to sell a wide track kit on here a couple of years back.. it consisted of bits of flat to pust the bottom joint out, 2 blocks of ally to push the hub top out.. then some spacers & nuts for the back...

the cv's took the stretch of the driveshafts.... it was scary & i don't think he ever sold them

[brucer]

my wheels on my old nova were et20, they filled the arches out.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z24/bachilds1988/WideArchedNova.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z24/bachilds1988/sr2.jpg

[Lee]

Whats the crack then, if you can "fit and forget" wide wheels, why do people wide track cars?

I thought about widening the beam 30mm each side, and running corsa for suspention to try and bring it out due to longer tie bars.

Horses for courses. Each method has its own pro's and cons. Some like to fit a wide track kit to reduce stress on the bearings, or to keep the geometry reasonably close to standard. The wheels and tyres are a damn site cheaper as well if you're competing.

We went with the wide wheels on Dans because it suits him. He would use a sledgehammer to put in a drawing pin lol We surmised that the level of grip offered by the tyres would balance any geometry misgivings, and the bearings will be beefed up to compensate when we modify the brake carriers.

As Ive noticed on many projects people do, some go the easiest route, and some go the 100% properly on paper route. It all depends on what you want to achieve, and what floats your boat in the car scene. Some will spend massive amounts of money making sure the build is 100% correct, others will do enough to make the thing work and thats it.

I'm definately in the second camp lol. Keith Robinson, for example, is in the first camp. I dont have the patience or the desire to build a car as good as his, same as he probably wouldnt dream of doing some of the stuff I do. Its what makes for an interesting mix :)

[Mark]

Well the wheels fitted at the moment are 7Jx17 MiM's with an ET37 offset, so Will's 16's will be fine.

Cheers all.