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Mike
29-07-10, 02:28 PM
Gen me up please.

Is it simply a case of a set of solid lifters & cams to suit? (Never had the pleasure of fitting either myself)

Which leads me to this...

284°, 285°, 290°, 294°, 298°, 302° & 306° profiles. Any particular profile I should avoid for track & drag use?

Stuart
29-07-10, 03:03 PM
8 or 16v?

Ideally you want a cam profile that is for solids, otherwise you wont get the most out of going to solid (bar a much higer rev limit lol)

Personally I'd go for 290-298 otherwise it starts getting peaky, and any less is semi pointless imho

Adam
29-07-10, 03:10 PM
What engine/whats the rest of the engine spec?

Mike
29-07-10, 03:12 PM
C20XE motor.

All the profiles I mention above are suitable for solids according to Autosprint?

Adam
29-07-10, 03:17 PM
Are these proper cams or regrinds?

Mike
29-07-10, 03:19 PM
Are these proper cams or regrinds?

Reground autosprint jobbies Ad. 310's & 314's are avaliable through them but they have to be from blanks at £400 odd a pair so fook that idea completey lol lol

Stuart
29-07-10, 03:19 PM
rest of engine spec thoughts, thankyou please

Mike
29-07-10, 03:21 PM
rest of engine spec thoughts, thankyou please

L&B fly
Autosprint "stage3/race" head (whatever that entials i dont know yet?)
L&B bottem end
H rods & ARP's
then usual manifold/system blah blah

Not planning on using TB's until the engines had some use like.

Graeme
29-07-10, 03:25 PM
What about pistons? What are you running before the tbs?

Stuart
29-07-10, 03:27 PM
single throttle plenum will be fine (good enough for BTCC) with suitable managment

Mike
29-07-10, 03:28 PM
What about pistons? What are you running before the tbs?

This is the thing, I dont know, do I need pocketed type? Never actively dabbled with solid lifters, never had too as the engines Ive/we've had with them in some one else built up.

Stuart
29-07-10, 03:28 PM
with any form of "useful" cams in the XE (hyrdo or mech) you will need to pocket the pistons

Mike
29-07-10, 03:30 PM
with any form of "useful" cams in the XE (hyrdo or mech) you will need to pocket the pistons

Super duper :)

Graeme
29-07-10, 03:31 PM
I was also told the motronic 2.5 or 2.8 won't run decent spec cams so you'll have to run aftermarket from the start

Adam
29-07-10, 03:34 PM
Correct /\

What xe have you got Mike?
Can pocket the standard pistons if they are forged Mahle items

bmw156
29-07-10, 03:47 PM
i just remembered i think i have a set of mahle ones laying about it you want a spare set, small fee involved lol. with rods as well.

mayhem
29-07-10, 04:01 PM
shoot me if you like.. but degrees dont say mcuh.

i'm running hydro 280º schrick cams on oem pistons.

everything above 296 is mechanical.

Mike
29-07-10, 04:21 PM
Correct /\

What xe have you got Mike?
Can pocket the standard pistons if they are forged Mahle items

Not got one yet but changing pistons around isnt really a problem anyway.

philip
29-07-10, 09:48 PM
288 is regarded as largest cam to be used on hydraulics, above that all are usualy solid profile. If your going solid profile, you need dual springs, steep caps, + buckets and shims. Shimming also isnt something you can do at home unless you have either a surface grinder or a lathe pref with digital read out so know exactly what your taking off the shim.

Early mahles i think can be pocketed a further 2mm, but tbh if looking at a solid cam then you wil be revving the motor and id def go for steel rods and some hi-comp forged pistons to make full use of the mods.

djbrowney
29-07-10, 10:51 PM
When i had my head built for my let it was

+ 1 mm vavles
Bronze Guides (not sleves)
Solid lifters
Double valve springs
Shims
Early gm Spring seats
Double valve spring caps
Valve stem seals
porus modd
full port/polish
Funky cams


I also had the valve cuts outs machine deeper :)

djbrowney
29-07-10, 10:52 PM
Also make sure you get the deep shims becuase the short ones pop off !!!

Lee
29-07-10, 11:29 PM
Mike, i've got three perfectly good accrelite pistons here so you'll only need one new one :)

Stuart
30-07-10, 09:11 AM
Mike, i've got three perfectly good accrelite pistons here so you'll only need one new one :)

yeah but they be cursed :p