saxo are the best

[Danny s-p]

just had 17 year old mammy and daddy boy on msn tell me his new standard saxo vtr can beet a c20xe corsa. and he will have a turbo nova pants down. I pmsl at him do all saxo driver's think there vtr and vts can take the world on. rant over

[bazil]

Please send him this with my regards :)


http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/cats/Picture037.jpg

[simonm]

my old e16se used to chew these up and spit them out in bubbles must be mistaken for pedal car not xe

ps i wouldn mind a shot at him either with my diesel vectra frightens lots

[Danny s-p]

when the gte done all just have to take him to croft and have go at him

[nova_saloon]

wow what a willy

[MattBrown]

my old e16se used to chew these up and spit them out in bubbles must be mistaken for pedal car not xe

My e16se did aswell

Even with 28 stone of me and my buddy inlol

[simonm]

wow what a willy


LOL

[Mieran]

My red XE Nova was faster than a 153BHP VTS

[Trendall]

a mate of mine had a vtr and i ust to piss all over him in a 1.4sri corsa b only thing i did was load it up with speakers and magic tree's and lowered it by 40mm so if a 1.4 can piss on a vtr i think a 2l nova will on a vts. but again bearing in mind the other driver in his 2l nova might have been sat at the lights still laughing as the vtr drove off lol

[wwmnw]

I can run faster than a VTS.

[Danny s-p]

I can run faster than a VTS.that is say some think

[wwmnw]

I'm a quick runner lol

[Mieran]

I'm a quick runner lol

Must be chipped and remapped

[Jack]

Saxo VTR is only something like 88bhp, so will never set the world on fire. I believe the facelift ones are 100bhp though, so a little improvement, but thats still not a lot when you have to drag round mod cons such as PAS, comfy interiors, air bags, EW, etc.

[davidfox280585]

my corst td left them in a cloud of smoke proven

[Mike]

A 1.6 MPi Nova will rinse a VTR pretty easy. Will also give a VTS a good run for a short while too.

[Lewis.]

just had a look on autodata, and a phase 1 VTR is only 90bhp, phase 2 VTR is 98bhp and the VTS is still only 120bhp, so how is that gonna beat a 200bhp Nova turbo, which is lighter anyway :confused: lol

these boys in there saxos make me lol

[mowgli]

i bet the vts has an induction kit though....

[claire6069]

the vital point is that its french - when he puts it in 1st gear it'll go in reverse with the hazards flashing lol

one of porters mates has just bought a redtop nova in a sr shell (red one thats currently for sale on ebay) hes only had it two weeks and he wants to swap it for a 106 gti!!! i think hes potty personally

pmsl mowgli - induction kit adds 100bhp lmao

edit - just discovered the redtop nova used to belong to Mieran!

[stevejohnson]

got to love these sexo owners,

mate of mine had a vts and thought it was rocket lol my mk2 xr2 used to dance round it, and after he spent £400 on it lol he thought it was even better

[Mike]

i bet the vts has an induction kit though....

I heard they have ten :confused:

[Lewis.]

i bet the vts has an induction kit though....

lol rocker cover painted red? +50bhp too

[mowgli]

eBay boat bilge pump..oops sorry, electric supercharger.....even if it is a bit last year

[Lewis.]

those electric superchargers look cack.
have you seen the little fans that you put inline with your induction hose? it just spins on its own in the air lol

[Southie]

This Saxo when finished would have been fun CLICKY (http://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/215591-saxo-2-turbo-rwd-rear-engine-conversion-flipped-rear.html)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/king.muppet/saxo2%20turbo/flip%20rear/DSC00184.jpg

[mowgli]

those electric superchargers look cack.
have you seen the little fans that you put inline with your induction hose? it just spins on its own in the air lol

i did a whole thread on it way back pointing out the folly of buying them......

if people are stupid enough to buy them, let them

[mr5050]

lol at citreon as a whole, if you want a car made from garlic and onion composite and made by people who cant defend their own country, you have certain issues that need addressing!

[mowgli]

lol at citreon as a whole, if you want a car made from garlic and onion composite and made by people who cant defend their own country, you have certain issues that need addressing!

I'll see you & raise you this.............
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Opel_GT%2C_Bj._1973_am_16.07.2006.jpg/250px-Opel_GT%2C_Bj._1973_am_16.07.2006.jpg (http://www.pngclub.com/wiki/File:Opel_GT,_Bj._1973_am_16.07.2006.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_GT

built in france

[mr5050]

with exceptions lol

[Jim Mcrae]

I bloody hate saxos and 106s (maybe its the owners tbh) I could go on about them being really ****e but I've had loads of novas.

Some lad is trying to get me to part ex this: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2747/191/27/612685544/n612685544_6288165_2691401.jpg

For my freshly painted XE. Yeah right.....

[SR-Rally]

Remember one night I was going home in My nov and a saxo vtr tryed racing me :s He locked up into a corner and came to a stop half way up a bank lol I turned round to check he was ok but struggled not to laugh lol

[mowgli]

ah the good old days......

i got slapped by the owner of an mg metro because he couldn't pass my 1200merit with 4 adults in it.....when metros were still new....... and after 3 miles he made it past on a straight. parked across the road & when i stopped, started shouting at me... i got him upset when i pointed out that i wasn't aware we were actually racing, i was just taking my friends to a pub for a meal, then he hit me....... so i got him done for assault

[mr5050]

... i got him upset when i pointed out that i wasn't aware we were actually racing, i was just taking my friends to a pub for a meal,
lol lol lol :thumb:

[stupot89]

my van eats vtrs for breakfast havent had a go at a vts yet

[bazil]

i used to get beaten by a vts in my gsi due to it having the wrong gearbox WB ftl

[CoolTiger]

my gti just about keeps up with xe novas, and it leaves vtrs for dead, (vts same as 106gti)

[davidfox280585]

got to love these sexo owners,

mate of mine had a vts and thought it was rocket lol my mk2 xr2 used to dance round it, and after he spent £400 on it lol he thought it was even better
problem is all he got was 2 driveshafts and 2 new lower arms for that lol:cool:

[CoolTiger]

or new box clutch and driveshafts for when the box fell out the car like mine did

[simonm]

my nephew has a 1.6 vtr at the mo and its so funny to hear about all the people he races and beats and its so dead its not funny ring its neck and still goes nowhere

[Tony M]

My old VTS >>

VTS's and GTI's are not as slow as everyone makes out.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/Daywalker84/Photo0291.jpg

[CoolTiger]

My old VTS >>

VTS's and GTI's are not as slow as everyone makes out.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/Daywalker84/Photo0291.jpg

nice car that :) id put them in the same league as standard valvers in novas which not bad since they are only 1600s

[stupot89]

french rust worse than novas do all shoite

[Tony M]

french rust worse than novas do all shoite

Considering galvanised steel doesn't rust .... :tard: lol

[Tony M]

french rust worse than novas do all shoite
Considering there made from galvanised steel .... :tard:

Edit : Stupid phone.

[simonm]

have to agree vts and gti are not that slow but still dont think they be a patch on xe nova vts wont do 150mph

[CoolTiger]

yes but will stay with the nova untill 140

[Tony M]

yes but will stay with the nova untill 140 35ish BHP less than an XE Nova and the Nova is lighter?

[Big_Chap]

Show him this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-6O9s4VBOE

Waste of petrol really!...

[CoolTiger]

35ish BHP less than an XE Nova and the Nova is lighter?106 weighs same as standard nova so nova is slightly heavier with xe, anyway we will never know unless you put then side by side on a runway :)

[MattBrown]

106 weighs same as standard nova so nova is slightly heavier with xe, anyway we will never know unless you put then side by side on a runway :)

Novas dont weigh 935kgs:d

[CoolTiger]

Novas dont weigh 935kgs:dnether do 106s?

[stupot89]

Considering there made from galvanised steel .... :tard:

Edit : Stupid phone.

funny you say that i have welded a big piece in a saxo rear inner arch was well and trully rotten

[Tony M]

funny you say that i have welded a big piece in a saxo rear inner arch was well and trully rotten the body panels on a modern french are made from galv.

[Danny s-p]

the body panels on a modern french are made from galv.pnly after 1999 i think tho mate

[MattBrown]

nether do 106s?

Nope, 925 sorry:(

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=100738

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=569360&mid=0&i=100&nmt=RE:%20SOTW:%20Peugeot%20106%20GTI&mid=0

Pug say 965;)

[CoolTiger]

http://michaeljacksonnotdead.wordpress.com/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195775/Jacksons-dead-hes-living-bunker-Elvis-Presley-Conspiracy-theories-emerge-just-hours-stars-death.html

i belive everything i read on the interwebz :)

[MattBrown]

one fat driver then, 850ish on the owners club

Ok, ill meet you in the middle at 900kgs just for reasoning, and tbf, with me and you in, its gonna be a tonnelol

So, a 1.0 bog nova is 730kgs according to haynes.

150bhp, 750 kgs nova (+ 20 for engine) 187.5bhp per tonne.


Your GTI is 900kgs, 139.8bhp, so 154.2bhp per tonne.

And the xe has more torques.

So, this is an even bigger can of wormslol

[MattBrown]

edit one sec

GAY AS FUUK:d

[General Baxter]

everything will beat one,

as when you smash the loud pedal, you also smash the brake lol

[sparkie1401]

most saxo drivers should be shot, drownded or thrown into the fast lane of the M6

[CoolTiger]

yeh but its a 1600 my arugment :p you have 400 more cc

[CoolTiger]

everything will beat one,

as when you smash the loud pedal, you also smash the brake lol

thats only one 1.1s lol i did that on my sisters car break **** **** **** going faster

[General Baxter]

yeh but its a 1600 my arugment :p you have 400 more cc

i nuked one on tick over, but i do have 1200cc more lol

[MattBrown]

yeh but its a 1600 my arugment :p you have 400 more cc

I also have no docs:( lol

Im not assed, you know I love the gti, very good car, if they get looked after they dont break

A lad on work has one because its "pretty" never hammers it, never broke a thing:cool:

[MattBrown]

i nuked one on tick over, but i do have 1200cc more lol

lol

A gti would lol at your bm:thumb:

[General Baxter]

i can end this right now


its



FRENCH lol

[CoolTiger]

yeh but how can you not hammer one :D? baxter me and matt chased a 330 m3 kept up no worries

[General Baxter]

get me a long road,

gti runs out of puff at 120, im still in 3rd then lol

who cares about corners, you can go round them fast, i can make it fun lol

[CoolTiger]

120 lol

[MattBrown]

get me a long road, lol

gti runs out of puff at 120 lol im still in 3rd then lol

140, but yeah, what does the bmw run of puff at?

As in, stops pulling hard?

[CoolTiger]

155 it STOPS at :)

[General Baxter]

was that far off, 100? lol

i hit the wall at 155, good old mile muncher gearbox lol

edit, i dont need a 90" exhaust to make my car sound good :p

[CoolTiger]

just a new car?

[MattBrown]

A streight 6 has never, and will never sound good.

[General Baxter]

A streight 6 has never, and will never sound good.

:wtf:

[MattBrown]

:wtf:

Its my genuine belief

Even fellas m3's in work sound gaylol

[Mike]

was that far off, 100? lol

i hit the wall at 155, good old mile muncher gearbox lol

edit, i dont need a 90" exhaust to make my car sound good :p

At 155 in a 2.2tonne 3 series youd need about 10 miles to brake back to zero mph then wouldnt you lol lol lol lol

[General Baxter]

how heavy do you think my 1.2 ton car is lol

[Mike]

how heavy do you think my 1.2 ton car is lol

My mates 328 auto weight just over 2 ton :wtf:

[MattBrown]

At 155 in a 2.2tonne 3 series youd need about 10 miles to brake back to zero mph then wouldnt you lol lol lol lol



200 bhp, 2.2 tonne 90 bhp per tonne.

So, a 1.4 nova carb with 75bhp, is 93.75 bhp per tonne.

That Bm Phailzzlol

[Mieran]

Funny how Citroen/Pug says they do 127 but owners insist they can reach 140

And they don't feel stable at over 100 imo, my Nova felt planted at 140

[Mike]

That Bm Phailzzlol

Not really, the BMW will have umpteem shetloads more torques!!! And subseqeuntly rinse the Nova. Because Nova's are **** as we all know lol

[General Baxter]

where as i can drive with 1 finger and chill lol

[MattBrown]

Funny how Citroen/Pug says they do 127 but owners insist they can reach 140

And they don't feel stable at over 100 imo, my Nova felt planted at 140

137 we had on shatnav:)

[Mike]

Funny how Citroen/Pug says they do 127 but owners insist they can reach 140

And they don't feel stable at over 100 imo, my Nova felt planted at 140

Er probably because they go a lot faster then 127 as standard :confused: ;)

[General Baxter]

Weight 1395 kg
im pumping around 220bhp

[Mike]

Weight 1395 kg
im pumping around 220bhp

203bhp apparently :p them 2.8s

[CoolTiger]

Funny how Citroen/Pug says they do 127 but owners insist they can reach 140

And they don't feel stable at over 100 imo, my Nova felt planted at 140
127 on small wheels

[MattBrown]

203bhp apparently :p them 2.8s

Like the 150bhp derv, that made 100lol

[CoolTiger]

mine does 120 in 4th

[General Baxter]

203bhp apparently :p them 2.8s
not with the inlet throttlebody and K&N lol

[General Baxter]

Like the 150bhp derv, that made 100lolerm

thats because it was old, and i had not played with it enough, if i would of kept it, it would of done it easy

[Mike]

not with the inlet throttlebody and K&N lol

More VTec's y0!!! lol lol lol

[moffat]

i hate saxos and 106s tbh think there horible

[CoolTiger]

bmw 330 ci (cant find 328) is 154bhp/ton
106 148 bhp/ton

[General Baxter]

i win simple really, i have more cylinders, not a girly 4 pot lol

cooltiger, fancy a go at pod? lol
328i 2,793 cc (2.793 L; 170.4 cu in)
6cyl DOHC 24V
Petrol
193 PS (142 kW; 190 hp) @5300 rpm
280 N·m (210 lb·ft) @3950 rpm
M52B28 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M52#M52B28)
7.0 seconds
240 km/h (150 mph)
1994–1998



1.6 L (1587 cc)
TU5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_TU_engine#TU5) I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4),
120 PS (118 hp/88 kW)
107 ft·lbf (145 N·m)

not even got enough torque to pull the skin off soup lol

[CoolTiger]

i wouldnt mind a go at the pod for a laugh 320 mile round trip tho

[General Baxter]

its ok im 45miles away, we will use the same amount of fuel lol

[Adam]

i win simple really, i have more cylinders, not a girly 4 pot lol

cooltiger, fancy a go at pod? lol
328i 2,793 cc (2.793 L; 170.4 cu in)
6cyl DOHC 24V
Petrol
193 PS (142 kW; 190 hp) @5300 rpm
280 N·m (210 lb·ft) @3950 rpm
M52B28 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M52#M52B28)
7.0 seconds
240 km/h (150 mph)
1994–1998



1.6 L (1587 cc)
TU5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_TU_engine#TU5) I4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-4),
120 PS (118 hp/88 kW)
107 ft·lbf (145 N·m)

not even got enough torque to pull the skin off soup lol Your Beemer with 190brake would get done by a decent 106 GTI down the 1/4 IMO

A lot of people put them down, but VTS's and GTi's are fooking quick motors for 1600's.

I beat a Veccy V6 (2.5 with 3.0 cams apparently (170/180bhp??) quite easily down the 1/4 in my white nova with about 120-125bhp

Yeah, they dont make much torque, but they dont need torque like a 1400kg car does.

[harry-nova]

not every saxo vts goes the same ive had 2 one i had touchin 145 sitting next to a e30 325 but i did play with the cam timing :D but rear axle broke lol then the second one i had only just got to 120 which my old 1.4 nova sat at 135

[claire6069]

alot of it as well is the driver, 400cc isnt alot of difference if you have one nutcase and one 'normal' driver plus knowing your car and its/your limits is a big advantage

[davidfox280585]

funny thread this big car vs little car!
i have a 163bhp diesel 2.5 v6 audi cab against(private road of course) 2.2ton
little corsa vxr 190bhp weights say a bean tin and meh,
side by side though he looked chuffed thought hed done really well as mines an s4 rep till i stopped and told him it was a diesel
the torque is where its at
the 106s are pretty nippy i personally was in my friends at topped out at 137 no more and it felt scary and felt like i was going to die (airstrip of course)

public racing isnt big and isnt clever keep it to the dragstrip:thumb:

[mr5050]

vauxhall is considerably better than citreon.... thats the bottom line right there lol

[claire6069]

totally agree lol +rep for you lol

[Andy]

not every saxo vts goes the same ive had 2 one i had touchin 145 sitting next to a e30 325 but i did play with the cam timing :D but rear axle broke lol then the second one i had only just got to 120 which my old 1.4 nova sat at 135
BS post of the year awarded to harry-nova lol lol

[Mike]

vauxhall is considerably better than citreon.... thats the bottom line right there lol

Obviously, because GM Vauxhall are consitently winning things such as the WRC, BTCC & WTCC. That definetly makes them the better car yes... lol lol

[Sloth]

my 106 1500 derv non turbo, with a rallye gearbox was faster to 80 than a VTS. sadly the bugger ran out of gearing at 95......
my 323 2.5 e36 estate kept up with a 150 bhp tdi a3, all the way to 90, where i sat and he pulled into the inside lane.....
o.p tell the french owning nipple head that his saxo needs to be taken to z-cars to be taken seriously. if not he's a fukking woman.

[mr5050]

Obviously, because GM Vauxhall are consitently winning things such as the WRC, BTCC & WTCC. That definetly makes them the better car yes... lol lol
obviously :roll: lol lol

[MattBrown]

BS post of the year awarded to harry-nova lol lol

Did you not know andy?



Fidlled with the timing, your a tuning hero:roll:

Cooltigers GTI has Verniers from standard, looks the mutts tbh, but no timing marks lol

[MattBrown]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/meanturbo/DSCF0320.jpg

nom

[CoolTiger]

gti pullys from standard for who is intrested
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/meanturbo/DSCF0320.jpg

[Sloth]

meh, vw derv motors are like that....

[L33 LEG]

I have a pug gti and i don't think it's the fastest thing ever :wtf: However, for a daily drive i think it is perfect. Small, cheap to run and although they are obviously no match for LETs, they are still able to keep up with most hatchbacks and have the power there if you want to give it a thrash.

I love mine, will be sad when i sell it tbh.

[novanum1]

Tbh when i took my mates saxo vts for a drive i was rather shocked, But there is many vtr out there who stick vts badges on to be cool......

[claire6069]

Tbh when i took my mates saxo vts for a drive i was rather shocked, But there is many vtr out there who stick vts badges on to be cool......

fpmsl lol