View Full Version : Ebay, seller says he sold my engine!
boffer8
09-07-10, 11:10 AM
Hi Guys,
Long time since i have been on due to me being in malaysia but need some advice on this so hopefully you can help me out.
Some of you might have seen the brand new c20xe engine on ebay for 975 for sale that finished last night, well i was the winning bidder. it is to be rebuilt and to go in a Chevrolet WTCC car to compete in the asian touring car series and so would make an excellent base for us to start work on.
Anyways after winning it the guy mailed me and said:
"sorry mate not letting it go for that price, call me on 078******** if you want to discuss a price,
thanks"
and then he sent:
"sorry mate its been sold now anyway, thanks"
What do i do know? i really need this engine to have it built up in time for us to go to Korea, i have all the parts sat he waiting to go in, just need thsi engine!! Ebay wont let me raise a case until the 15th July and i need to have paid but theres no point in me sending money now is there?
Where do i go from here, anyone experience this before?
hope you can help out guys.
cheers
Ben
blue_peg_16v
09-07-10, 11:15 AM
an ebay auction is a legaly binding agreement when sold he cant just say your not having it for that, you could get a solicitor involved but would take time to sort and you need the engine now, just because its an internet auction dosent change anything the same laws apply as with other auctions, just like if you buy something on ebay your legaly bound to pay for it or the seller could legaly sue for breach of contract, unless the item isnt as described
he has breached his contract with you by not selling at the agreed sale price with no reserve he has no leg to stand on
what a nob why put the starting bid below a price your willing to sell at i always list with a start price im willing to let it go for if it goes for more bonus
erm who was the seller..... name and shame.
although I have a sneaky feeling who it might be :(
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-VAUX-KIT-CAR-ASTRA-CORSA-NOVA-MANTA-C20XE-ENGINE-/260630751445?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3caecda8d5
looks V nice i must say
that looks rather a lot like the one LMF gave away at PV? lol Always thought it was a bit of a duff prize, buy a brand new turbo for a Z20LEH/LET and get an entry into a competition to win a 20 year old NA engine lol
boffer8
09-07-10, 11:24 AM
thedanster69, anyone know who it is, is he on here? i called him before the auction finsihed but didnt say who i was asking about it and he won it at PV so it aint cost him a dime!
blue_peg_16v
09-07-10, 11:26 AM
lagaly hes breached contract you can sue him, a solicitors letter making him aware of this might make him think again
General Baxter
09-07-10, 11:48 AM
i had this a few months ago, won a complete xe and box for £250,
then he comes across and says sorry not letting it go for that much, i wanted atleast £300
i reported him to ebay,
you are in a binding contract, he HAS to sell it to you at that price
brake-dust
09-07-10, 12:08 PM
messaged him asking if its still forsale, will let you know what he says, dont recon he's sold it at all tbh
When i saw it the otherday I had a good old chuckle at the questions...
"hi wot size engine is it"
you will have the moral high ground, but it won't help.
why aren't you using an ecotec? surely thats whats fitted in the factory
Adaz_blud
09-07-10, 12:24 PM
why dont you go round there with the cash and say look i won it you have too sell it too me then just take it and leave the money on the side
lol ok not who I was thinking.
why dont you go round there with the cash and say look i won it you have too sell it too me then just take it and leave the money on the side
Yeah because he'll definitely let you in and not interfere while you put an engine in your pocket and walk out lol
GRUNT 16V
09-07-10, 01:11 PM
Ebay w@nker
blue_peg_16v
09-07-10, 01:19 PM
you will have the moral high ground, but it won't help.
why aren't you using an ecotec? surely thats whats fitted in the factory
the pressent chevey cruize and the previous lacetti in both wtcc and btcc use an xe there still used in canada i think its canada anyway so they can geat round the rules and use them shows what a good engine they are imo
old wtcc lacetti
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm71/richardmee/chevimotor-256x1921.jpg
so how do they compare with old swindon btcc outputs????
is that bloody lada thing with basically a cav btcc chassis still racing??
brake-dust
09-07-10, 01:38 PM
told me engines still forsale and to call him
blue_peg_16v
09-07-10, 01:41 PM
dont remember seeing it this season but it wasnt a front runner anyway lol
the engine is used in the chevrolet astra gsi in argentina the btcc rules state that if the model dosent come with a 2.0 from the factory you can use a 2.0 from the same manufacturer hence there legal to use it its also how team dynamics can enter a 5dr civic and use the type r engine as the car needs to have 4 passanger doors to meet s2000 regs paul oniels car runs the older rules (integra) just checked a thread on btcc forum about it
power wise i would presume its similar to the swindon output befor the reverse head
will look like a let next year when the rules change to the ngtc engine they will then either be able to hire or buy a standard btcc spec engine (like andrew jordan is running this year) or build there own from a model specific or manufacture same engine or 2.0 or bored and stoked to reach 2.0 btcc will then supply the turbo ecu injectors and intercooler aim is to reduce costs and even the field giving all cars around 300bhp the actual btcc ngtc engine has been designed and built by swindon too
blue_peg_16v
09-07-10, 01:43 PM
told me engines still forsale and to call him
in that case in be sending a solicitors letter by courier so he has it tomorrow, (my dads mates a slicitor so can get things that quick from him) would shock the **** out the seller lol
dont remember seeing it this season but it wasnt a front runner anyway lol
the engine is used in the chevrolet astra gsi in argentina the btcc rules state that if the model dosent come with a 2.0 from the factory you can use a 2.0 from the same manufacturer hence there legal to use it its also how team dynamics can enter a 5dr civic and use the type r engine as the car needs to have 4 passanger doors to meet s2000 regs paul oniels car runs the older rules (integra) just checked a thread on btcc forum about it
power wise i would presume its similar to the swindon output befor the reverse head
do you reckon they still used leaded fuel over there? or is it that corn liquor stuff?
brake-dust
09-07-10, 01:52 PM
do it, just a case of didnt make what he wanted, he's legally bound to sell you that engine, it is a formal contract despite it only being ebay, both parties are legally bound to complete the transaction, other than as said before if the item is not as described or both parties mutually agree to not complete the sale
agree to come & look at it. then decide. i think it is overpriced. especially if they still make the engine somewhere in the world.
afaik it's not a brand new engine anyway, been rebuilt with all new gaskets, which might not even be genuine parts.
so it could have been rebored ???
or just dry stored & striiped & inspected?
Its the one LMF had on their stand at PV, which they conveniantly never said was new and kept harping on about all new gaskets etc, might just be clean lol
You would be better off getting a XE cheap and rebuilding it yourself at least you'll know what's been done to it,
I know that's not much help with a short timescale tho.
i think its the lack of wear thats important, i'm sure large overbores are illegal
claire6069
10-07-10, 12:39 PM
i've had a guy try to do the same, he put an auction up for a c20xe air flow meter, i won it for 6.50 and he sent an email saying its worth more than that and he paid 35 quid for it, he said he wanted to relist it so i sent him the money so he cant lol he sent me another email saying he will post it when he gets chance and i've got a bargain as its worth more than 6.50 lol i know that pmsl
if i were you, i'd phone the guy and tell him to read ebays rules about a legally binding contract, tbh, hes being greedy, most people with that kind of money would buy a let! i think because he knows you need it, hes taking the p!ss. ebay do have a phone number now dont they?? might be worth ringing them??
Yeah Claire, Ebay have a number now, Answered me within a minute and were very helpful, though in this case, theres no t alot they can do, though it might be worth getting their advice
novarally
10-07-10, 04:00 PM
Hi Guys,
Long time since i have been on due to me being in malaysia but need some advice on this so hopefully you can help me out.
Some of you might have seen the brand new c20xe engine on ebay for 975 for sale that finished last night, well i was the winning bidder. it is to be rebuilt and to go in a Chevrolet WTCC car to compete in the asian touring car series and so would make an excellent base for us to start work on.
Anyways after winning it the guy mailed me and said:
"sorry mate not letting it go for that price, call me on 078******** if you want to discuss a price,
thanks"
and then he sent:
"sorry mate its been sold now anyway, thanks"
What do i do know? i really need this engine to have it built up in time for us to go to Korea, i have all the parts sat he waiting to go in, just need thsi engine!! Ebay wont let me raise a case until the 15th July and i need to have paid but theres no point in me sending money now is there?
Where do i go from here, anyone experience this before?
hope you can help out guys.
cheers
Ben
I've got that high-spec C20XE engine you said you wanted a month or more ago, but I never heard back from you on......
i've had a guy try to do the same, he put an auction up for a c20xe air flow meter, i won it for 6.50 and he sent an email saying its worth more than that and he paid 35 quid for it, he said he wanted to relist it so i sent him the money so he cant lol he sent me another email saying he will post it when he gets chance and i've got a bargain as its worth more than 6.50 lol i know that pmsl
if i were you, i'd phone the guy and tell him to read ebays rules about a legally binding contract, tbh, hes being greedy, most people with that kind of money would buy a let! i think because he knows you need it, hes taking the p!ss. ebay do have a phone number now dont they?? might be worth ringing them??
I sold one on ebay for 99p... packaged it and sent it after ebay and paypal fees i think i was left with 12p... auctions are auctions
djbrowney
10-07-10, 04:47 PM
It's was auto Vaux who gave away the engine at pv, give them an ring and they will sell you one for 1200 :)
16v Nova Kev
10-07-10, 05:03 PM
:wtf: what i want to know is why you would buy a brand new engine and rebuild it.
claire6069
11-07-10, 12:13 PM
I sold one on ebay for 99p... packaged it and sent it after ebay and paypal fees i think i was left with 12p... auctions are auctions
very true!! bet you were gutted though lol
boffer8
13-07-10, 05:14 AM
:wtf: what i want to know is why you would buy a brand new engine and rebuild it.
I wanted an unstressed block with low or no miles to rebuild, after this amount of time the stress' should have left all the components i want to use so it would make it ideal as you hardly see a c20xe with less than 100,000 on it now.
I've got that high-spec C20XE engine you said you wanted a month or more ago, but I never heard back from you on......
will mail you colin, thought you had sold it so did'nt bother getting back to you.
novarally
31-07-10, 10:02 AM
will mail you colin, thought you had sold it so did'nt bother getting back to you.
Never got that e-mail from you Ben, so I will assume it's no longer of interest to you.
I sold one on ebay for 99p... packaged it and sent it after ebay and paypal fees i think i was left with 12p... auctions are auctions
Swings & roudabouts is the phrase.
I sold a X14XE last night for £225, where as sold a full Safety device's Nova cage for £125 8 months ago.
eBay customer service phone is 0208 0802 105 IIRC
General Baxter
31-07-10, 10:07 AM
eBay customer service phone is 0208 0802 105 IIRC
got that on speed dial ?
got that on speed dial ?
lol nah ive got a better phone number for eBay I was given at an eBay seminar :d
Nova_Tek
31-07-10, 10:53 AM
Hassle him with legal mumbo jumbo and watch him fold under pressure. Soon as I read your post mate (boffer) it was obvious he didn't sell it. He was probably waiting for the 'well how much will you take for it?'
At the end of the day, no reserve, it's easy to see that the engine is as described and you have more than 5 feedback and meet his criteria. If eBay let this slide then what's stopping people doing the same with other items.
I'd call eBay up, have a word, get them to get in touch or get their advise and send out a legal letter.
I though you couldn't get brand new engines from Vaux. I do know you can get reconditioned engines from them with an 80k warranty IIRC. They are normally around the £1200 - £1400 price range (I asked vaux a few years back).
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