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mr5050
02-07-10, 11:48 AM
i wrongly purchased 2 new inner cv's for my corsa c, the car has had x16xe engine conversion and i was told by the previous owner that i needed to get hold of some corsa gsi inner cv's. allparts specially ordered me in the pair, took them home tried to fit them then realised that they are only 25 spline when i need 28! not only that but one of them just fell apart when we put the cv in the vice and yanked the shaft out! so now i need to take them back for a refund. whats the best thing to say, i was thinking of saying that i didnt want these cv's as there poorly made and not mentioning the fact that there the wrong size? or i could try the whole "you supplied me the wrong cv's, i asked for 28 spline" i really dont know, and i need the cash as im off on holiday on monday and dont have that much spending money... please enlighten me with your words of wisdom! cheers

Stuart
02-07-10, 11:56 AM
so you didnt take the shaft out properly and broke the CV joint..... thats not their fault

mr5050
02-07-10, 12:39 PM
so you didnt take the shaft out properly and broke the CV joint..... thats not their fault
how have you perceived that i removed the shaft incorrectly???? the person who removed the cv has been a mechanic for over 30 years, he said he has never seen a cv fall apart like that before, they are re-con units so i assume they have been reconditioned incorrectly :wtf: if you have nothindg helpfull to say why do you feel the need to reply, dont ban me for 6 months:thumb:

GRUNT 16V
02-07-10, 12:48 PM
how have you perceived that i removed the shaft incorrectly???? the person who removed the cv has been a mechanic for over 30 years, he said he has never seen a cv fall apart like that before, they are re-con units so i assume they have been reconditioned incorrectly :wtf: if you have nothindg helpfull to say why do you feel the need to reply, dont ban me for 6 months:thumb:
He says it how it is and i agree !!!!!!

mr5050
02-07-10, 12:53 PM
so you buy a cv from somewhere, and it falls apart, thats your fault is it, forget it!

GRUNT 16V
02-07-10, 01:01 PM
it sounds like you have fitted the shaft in there and forcefully removed it was found to be incorrect !

NathanSRi
02-07-10, 01:13 PM
i wrongly purchased 2 new inner cv's for my corsa c
Whose fault is that? :wtf:

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:18 PM
the shaft was never fitted to the vehicle. we assembled the shaft in a vice, the outer cv went on first, no problems, then the inner, it was then obvious that the shaft had a different number of splines as there was a ridiculous amount of play in the shaft. so i spread the clip open that holds the shaft into the cv, the mechanic then pulled the cv out in a jolting motion, no excessive force was used, on the second pull the inside part of the cv came completely out of the body! now considering ive seen people do this with a hammer so it was more than unexpected, i understand that it was my fault for purchasing the wrong cv, however, a cv shld not fall apart like that no matter how you look at it, so if the cv was the correct cv for me i would still not be happy about putting something so fragile inside my new gearbox and on my custom driveshafts, and i asked the salesmen at the counter if it had 28 spline to which he replied " its for a corsa so it will fit your car". look upon how you will put ive been sold faulty goods and believe i deserve a refund, i just wanted to know the best way to go about it

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:19 PM
Whose fault is that? :wtf:

i was told by the previous owner that i needed to get hold of some corsa gsi inner cv's:wtf: try reading the whole thing!

Stuart
02-07-10, 01:19 PM
one of them just fell apart when we put the cv in the vice and yanked the shaft out!

That is the incorrect way to remove a driveshaft from a CV joint...... Even a mechanic of 30yrs should know that!!!


dont be such a fanny about "ohh dont ban me" lol

GRUNT 16V
02-07-10, 01:20 PM
you could get a credit for the undamaged one !! and saying that you purchased them incorrectly is anyones fault but not checking the item before you try and ram the wrong drive shaft in is yours mofo
sorry to sound harsh but anyone will tell you that this is true!

Stuart
02-07-10, 01:21 PM
you will be charged a restocking fee as you asked for something and were supplied it... if you ask for the wrong thing thats not the shops fault

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:25 PM
aaarrrrrrggggghh, wtf , i have done nothing wrong, i bought the cv's i was told that i needed, they where correctly removed and 1 broke, i even went out of my way to take it to the best mechanic i know even though ive done it before because i didnt want to chance anything! how would you take it? cant see what ive done wrong here

djshaggeh
02-07-10, 01:26 PM
I used to work for Allprats. The "its for a corsa so it will fit your car" statement does not suprize me one bit tbh. The majority of there sales team haven't a clue. I enquired for some 256mm ATE calipers for my XE nova and the reply I got off one of the salesmen was "Its dangourous to fit different calipers to your car that never came as OE"

Best thing to do is take them back and say they fell apart when you built them up. Get your money back. Go to another branch and buy the right ones this time.

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:28 PM
That is the incorrect way to remove a driveshaft from a CV joint...... Even a mechanic of 30yrs should know that!!!


dont be such a fanny about "ohh dont ban me" lol
what is the correct way of removing a cv joint, just for future prefrence, and i was taking the pi$$ about the banning thing:roll:

Stuart
02-07-10, 01:30 PM
i bought the cv's i was told that i needed,

There in lies the problem. If you dont knwo what you need to buy and buy the correctly supplied but incorrectlya sked for item its NOT the suppliers fault.

Like if you get told you should buy 80 grit sand paper to polish a car with, and you goto a shop to ask for that, and you get sold it, and then you find it screw your paint up... thats not the shops fault, thats your/the advice you got from someone elses fault.

Stuart
02-07-10, 01:31 PM
what is the correct way of removing a cv joint, just for future prefrence, and i was taking the pi$$ about the banning thing:roll:

you didnt add the "took the clip out" etc bit till after I posted that reply lol.

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:33 PM
I used to work for Allprats. The "its for a corsa so it will fit your car" statement does not suprize me one bit tbh. The majority of there sales team haven't a clue. I enquired for some 256mm ATE calipers for my XE nova and the reply I got off one of the salesmen was "Its dangourous to fit different calipers to your car that never came as OE"

Best thing to do is take them back and say they fell apart when you built them up. Get your money back. Go to another branch and buy the right ones this time.
thankyou mate, some real sense talking there. ive recently discovered that the inners i need are actually custom cv's, mega bucks but at least im clear on what i need now. lets face if the person who built the car didnt even know what cv's they used allparts aint gonna have a clue, also the outer cv's they sold me had no hub nut or cv grease and i had to exchange one of them because the cv in the box was and old one which someone had obviously swapped with a new one and took it back to the shop! useless

Southie
02-07-10, 01:36 PM
Lesson learned I think, research what you need next time or it will bit you in the ass. ;)

djshaggeh
02-07-10, 01:37 PM
They are pretty useless and won't put up much of a fight when you return them. They will not charge you for for returning them either. I used to deal with returns every now and again.

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:39 PM
There in lies the problem. If you dont knwo what you need to buy and buy the correctly supplied but incorrectlya sked for item its NOT the suppliers fault.

Like if you get told you should buy 80 grit sand paper to polish a car with, and you goto a shop to ask for that, and you get sold it, and then you find it screw your paint up... thats not the shops fault, thats your/the advice you got from someone elses fault.
i see what your saying, but lets just say they where the correct cv's, i wouldnt be to keen on using them if there so fragile, and the bloke who took it out knows his stuff, trust me, he said hes never seen that happen before, thats got to be saying something surely, anyways, im going to take both of them back, show them the damaged one and tell them i dont want to use this make of cv as they are week or re-manufactured incorrectly, worst that can happen is they tell me to fek off and ive lost £50, rather not though:)

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:45 PM
Lesson learned I think, research what you need next time or it will bit you in the ass. ;)
listen, i went to over 10 different motor parts stockists to see if they can identify what cv's i had, i then went to vauxhall which were less use than the other lot, i went to every scrapyard in my area and scoured the interweb for days, nothing, then i started ringing numbers that had been written on some of the recipts that came with the car, finally i managed to get hold of the person who built the car 4 years ago , this is who told me what cv's to get. i also went to a number of garages most didnt have a clue! what more could i have done fella?

GRUNT 16V
02-07-10, 01:45 PM
Another lesson learned is just go to the supplier !!!!!! and tell them what happened rather posting up a thread that more or less says that im a useless tw4t and cant fit a cv joint and i have broken it and now i have to make up some excuse to send it back !!
We all at PNG will take no prisoners when taking the p155
many thanks for you visit

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:51 PM
Another lesson learned is just go to the supplier !!!!!! and tell them what happened rather posting up a thread that more or less says that im a useless tw4t and cant fit a cv joint and i have broken it and now i have to make up some excuse to send it back !!
We all at PNG will take no prisoners when taking the p155
many thanks for you visit
the only useless tw@t is you as you clearly cant comprehend what **** i have gone through to get this car running, fair enough i got the wrong cv's. they broke through no fault of mine and i was asking simple advice on what to say to the supplier so that i would not be refused a refund waht a cnut you are mate, must be all that country air a tractor fumes:thumb: i have said nothing to you to prevoke that response, just show your lack of intellect and that you my friend are a keyboard warrior, enough said.

Southie
02-07-10, 01:52 PM
listen, i went to over 10 different motor parts stockists to see if they can identify what cv's i had, i then went to vauxhall which were less use than the other lot, i went to every scrapyard in my area and scoured the interweb for days, nothing, then i started ringing numbers that had been written on some of the recipts that came with the car, finally i managed to get hold of the person who built the car 4 years ago , this is who told me what cv's to get. i also went to a number of garages most didnt have a clue! what more could i have done fella? As I don't own a Corsa C I cannot help on your exact matter but surely you could of taken a few pictures of said cv's and asked peoples opinion what they might be. ;)

http://jimfairthorne.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/high_horse.jpg

djshaggeh
02-07-10, 01:54 PM
Please don't let this thread go sour, baby jesus will cry.

mr5050 has got the info he needed, various people have taken the pi55. Surely everyone is happy?!

mr5050
02-07-10, 01:59 PM
shouldnt have mentioned it was a corsa c lol

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:01 PM
As I don't own a Corsa C I cannot help on your exact matter but surely you could of taken a few pictures of said cv's and asked peoples opinion what they might be. ;)

http://jimfairthorne.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/high_horse.jpg
i done better than that, i took the cv's to every shop/person i mentioned, no worries now, i know ill get my monies back and i know what cv's i need, problem solved

GRUNT 16V
02-07-10, 02:02 PM
the only useless tw@t is you as you clearly cant comprehend what **** i have gone through to get this car running, fair enough i got the wrong cv's. they broke through no fault of mine and i was asking simple advice on what to say to the supplier so that i would not be refused a refund waht a cnut you are mate, must be all that country air a tractor fumes:thumb: i have said nothing to you to prevoke that response, just show your lack of intellect and that you my friend are a keyboard warrior, enough said.
Trust me i know what you are going through i have doing conversions when you were still eating farleys rusks and wearing pampers and another thing i am no keyboard warrior, i say it how it is everyone on here knows that i also dont drive a tractor or even have the urge too now go away and relax and while your there have an angry w4nk to get rid of your pet up sexual frustration lol

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:02 PM
no need for that at all mate, it was a question i asked, my intentions where not to offend anyone, your are obviously not!

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:05 PM
Another lesson learned is just go to the supplier !!!!!! and tell them what happened rather posting up a thread that more or less says that im a useless tw4t and cant fit a cv joint and i have broken it and now i have to make up some excuse to send it back !!
We all at PNG will take no prisoners when taking the p155
many thanks for you visit
theres no need to be like that pal, my intentions where not to offend anyone, merely to get the answer to my question

Nova_Tek
02-07-10, 02:06 PM
Difficult to tell really as this could go either way 50/50. The allparts in my area are really helpful as the guy used to work for Vaux parts desk and the manager was a manager at a big tyre/exhaust place and they really know their stuff, but I've been to motorfactors that haven't got a clue.

All you can really do is pluck up the courage and go to the motorfactors and explain. We could type all day about this and what's gonna be said or who we think is at fault, but the sure way to find out is to go do it.

I've been in situations where I've bought new parts from places off the net and/or factors. Taken them to a reputable garage (which I've used many times) for them to break whilst fitting or don't fit correctly even though they are the right part. Only thing that can be done is to get that garage to write a statement regarding the faulty part, giving their professional opinion.

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:09 PM
Trust me i know what you are going through i have doing conversions when you were still eating farleys rusks and wearing pampers and another thing i am no keyboard warrior, i say it how it is everyone on here knows that i also dont drive a tractor or even have the urge too now go away and relax and while your there have an angry w4nk to get rid of your pet up sexual frustration lol
ok mate, ill go have a fap why you carry on being angry at the world because your nearly dead, not my fault im younger than you mate, and dont think you can take the piss just because i am, differnce is ill still be building cars in 50 years and youl be ****tin in a bag and eating through a straw

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:11 PM
Difficult to tell really as this could go either way 50/50. The allparts in my area are really helpful as the guy used to work for Vaux parts desk and the manager was a manager at a big tyre/exhaust place and they really know their stuff, but I've been to motorfactors that haven't got a clue.

All you can really do is pluck up the courage and go to the motorfactors and explain. We could type all day about this and what's gonna be said or who we think is at fault, but the sure way to find out is to go do it.

I've been in situations where I've bought new parts from places off the net and/or factors. Taken them to a reputable garage (which I've used many times) for them to break whilst fitting or don't fit correctly even though they are the right part. Only thing that can be done is to get that garage to write a statement regarding the faulty part, giving their professional opinion.
good advice, a credit to png, +rep:thumb:

Southie
02-07-10, 02:12 PM
ok mate, ill go have a fap why you carry on being angry at the world because your nearly dead, not my fault im younger than you mate, and dont think you can take the piss just because i am, differnce is ill still be building cars in 50 years and youl be ****tin in a bag and eating through a straw

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Don't let it get out of hand eh lads. ;)

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:15 PM
im only retaliating, joking i am anyways lol its all good fun

Hobbit
02-07-10, 02:15 PM
neg rep for the op for being a moaning little wiener.

You started the tread saying you yanked out the shaft and it broke, said you ordered the wrong cv. Now you wonder after a bit of reverse cycling why you got flamed? Grow up.

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:18 PM
im gonna go have an angry **** all over the allparts shop front ,show em how i really feel, ye!

GRUNT 16V
02-07-10, 02:20 PM
neg rep for the op for being a moaning little wiener.

You started the tread saying you yanked out the shaft and it broke, said you ordered the wrong cv. Now you wonder after a bit of reverse cycling why you got flamed? Grow up.
thank you that man !!!!!!!! + rep

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:20 PM
neg rep for the op for being a moaning little wiener.

You started the tread saying you yanked out the shaft and it broke, said you ordered the wrong cv. Now you wonder after a bit of reverse cycling why you got flamed? Grow up.
fully grown;) ok , yanked may have been the wrong choice of words but if you read the whole thing all will become clear, go stick your ore somewhere else, ive excepted responsibilty for getting the wrong cv but it broke and thts not my fault.

mr5050
02-07-10, 02:28 PM
neg rep for the op for being a moaning little wiener.

You started the tread saying you yanked out the shaft and it broke, said you ordered the wrong cv. Now you wonder after a bit of reverse cycling why you got flamed? Grow up.
dont think that you can stereotype me because im young and own a nova, you know nothing about me. what is some peoples problem:roll:

GRUNT 16V
02-07-10, 02:30 PM
ok mate, ill go have a fap why you carry on being angry at the world because your nearly dead, not my fault im younger than you mate, and dont think you can take the piss just because i am, differnce is ill still be building cars in 50 years and youl be ****tin in a bag and eating through a straw
As im only 30 im not nearly dead !! also ther will always be someone like me everywhere !telling little turds like you where fcuk up!

Hobbit
02-07-10, 02:35 PM
closed as this is turning into a pointless slagging off fest.

Hobbits final thoughts - If you want a constructive answer to mechnical question maybe muppets area isn't the best place to start the thread.