napalm 27 buyer beware!!

[fastcar1cars]

hi thought id jus give a warning about buying parts off NAPALM 27! recently brought a gearbox from him and 1 week later during installation found there to be a hole covered with sealer!
The box was was brought for £70 and to quote nathan on a txt "100% good box". i also had to drive a round trip of 4 hours to collect! and then drop it off in leeds another 4 hour trip to be installed or not as the case maybe!!
Asked for my money back and was refused nathan claiming he has "no money" then today i read a thread where he has put his nova for sale on ebay to see what it would fetch and was slated asking him whats the point its a waste of £16 to which he replied:
"my money il spend it how i see fit :thumb:"
SEAM FIT pay me back you rip off merchant!!!

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk280/mk1escort348/14062010440.jpg

[let_nova]

theres a feedback section, that sealer looks old.

[paddy138]

dirtball, i know if i was in your shoes i would be doin the 4 hour round trip again and leave the gearbox in his windscreen if he doesnt pay up

[fastcar1cars]

sealer looks old cause he ran it on his car bodged up!! told me to liquid metal it!!
it says in his avatar:
"ADVISED CASH ON COLLECTION"
that should read
"ADVISED DON'T BOTHER"

[let_nova]

so did you cash on collection? and you didnt check it over?

[AlexW]

Can you get a bigger pic? I cant see it :(

[fastcar1cars]

yeah cash on colection but im a noob and was told 100% good box so...............................

[Mazz]

Another rip-off case from NGR :(

He seems to bitches and moan about people who slate, saying 'that was back in 2008' 'I've changed' etc etc, then threads like this pop up

:cry:

[fastcar1cars]

paypal might be best here or just dont buy off him!!

[napalm_27]

ermm as said to you and w88rdy the box came straight from nobby i had no idea about the hole or i wouldnt have fitted it into my nova and drove it simple as
so dont start throwing bull**** around about me that isnt true cheers
if i had the money id tell you to come back and give me the box back
simple but i havnt as im skint so no point coming down is there
you had plenty chance to check it over aswell but never did so sold as seen really
i got the box off nobby just after my birthday and im sure my thread can prove that aswell
and i will spend my money how i like who are you or anyone to tell me otherwise wooo £16 that ebay will take off me next month not now when i have none so shut up bitching

[fastcar1cars]

ok ill take my money back from you next month!! does'nt have to be now!! i wasnt goin to bother slating you as i really cant be arsed! but seeing as you have a spare £16 to throw at ebay and not me...................................

i didnt really see the need to check it over as you seemed like a genuine guy on the phone and txt and like i said you garenteed the box "100%"!!!

[craig green]

FFS Napalm, just stop selling stuff on here please! Your attitude sucks!

[napalm_27]

it was it worked it drove it selected all gears
how am i ment to know to check every bit of dirt/grease or what ever is on the box for the little bit of silicone hiding a hole
a hole in the casing is not going to stop it working
reason why i said chemical metal will patch it up
its not like its in a place were anything is going to sit on is it

fed up of being blamed for something i knew feck all about
il say it again
I GOT IT STRAIGHT OFF NOBBY I PUT IT IN THE NOVA IT WORKED I SOLD IT TO YOU!

i cant be more honest then that

[napalm_27]

FFS Napalm, just stop selling stuff on here please! Your attitude sucks!

my attitude sucks because im fed up of being blamed for things that i knew absolutely nothing about

[fastcar1cars]

it was it worked it drove it selected all gears
how am i ment to know to check every bit of dirt/grease or what ever is on the box for the little bit of silicone hiding a hole
a hole in the casing is not going to stop it working
reason why i said chemical metal will patch it up
its not like its in a place were anything is going to sit on is it

fed up of being blamed for something i knew feck all about
il say it again
I GOT IT STRAIGHT OFF NOBBY I PUT IT IN THE NOVA IT WORKED I SOLD IT TO YOU!

i cant be more honest then that

bodge bodge bodge me and w88rdy are nothing like you!! NATHAN jus stop skanking people!!!

[blue_peg_16v]

there is a reason stu stook a sticky in the parts wanted section

[General Baxter]

this is just the reason i did not buy the gearbox off you, i knew it had been in a crash,

simple

[napalm_27]

oh shut up you know nothing about me
and how i have skanked anyone i dont know
dont see anyone else complaining except you about something i knew nothing about
you must think i made the hole or something and patched it with silicone
i can very much assure you that i didnt if thats the case

[dave watson]

my attitude sucks because im fed up of being blamed for things that i knew absolutely nothing about
to be honnest you should of really checked it over before you bought it and sold it

[napalm_27]

to be honnest you should of really checked it over before you bought it and sold it

didnt bother me when i bought it i had the f28 sitting ready to fit minus the mount
and i cleaned all the fifth gear casing up to find the ratio number for him
it didnt leak or make any noises so how was i suspose to know :confused:

[General Baxter]

the way i see it, not taking into your repetition

you sold a product not as described, as you BOTH should of checked over it,

but to be fair, that seal 'dont' look that old

[napalm_27]

the way i see it,

you sold a product not as described, as you BOTH should of checked over it,

but to be fair, that seal 'dont' look that old

i hope your not implying i put that on there
because i sure as damn didnt

[comptoncj]

Not sticking up for anyone here but would you really take the box apart to check it when you buy it? I know its not the point but i have bought some right rubbish off here thats said to be good but its the luck of the draw with 2nd hand parts.

[blue_peg_16v]

tbf if it was a paypal / ebay dispute napalm you would loose as the gearbox isnt as described

[napalm_27]

atleast some one that actually knows me has commented with sense instead of jumping on the band wagon like every other person does on this forum

[let_nova]

tbf if it was a paypal / ebay dispute napalm you would loose as the gearbox isnt as described
maybe not as the gearbox was collected and the buyer checked himself?:confused:

ps im not backing anyone...

[blue_peg_16v]

not jumping on the band wagon i just think if you genuinly didnt know you should refund i sold a set of alloys and 1 had a hairling crack in it that i wasnt aware of when i sold them, bloke went to have a tire fitted and it was discovered i refunded him.

[Stuart]

now now girls....... spots dont change and all that.

[napalm_27]

i told him if i had the money i would give him it back but i havnt so i cant
told w88rdy this aswell and even told him if i get this job monday il give him the money back when i get payed but some people just arnt satisfied with people trying to make a wrong right

[djbrowney]

imo if the box wasnt as described you should have given a full refund, weather it was your fault or not. If you buy a second hand car from a garage and it breaks they fix it, very simple !!!

im surprised you havent been banned from this last time around !!!

[Will F]

Both parties have relevant points - If I was Napalm, I would be a bit peeved that everyone is accusing him of being a crook, when in all honesty, I would not have noticed - its not in an obvious position -

If I were fastcar I would also be peeved because a) I didnt check it properly and b) I have to buy another box....

Whatever the outcome, the box is still useable imo, so decide between yourselves how to sort it.

If I were Napalm, I would feel a bit gutted for the buyer, but cant say I would jump at paying the £70 back, esp if I was brassic!:thumb:

[napalm_27]

oh no Will apparently theres teeth missing on the cogs and everything so iv been told in a PM but some how it pulled my nova along nicely with no issues

but hey im the thieving robbing c@nt that everyone know's everything about
when theres only a few people that actually do know me and like iv said before were's the bad comments from them.?
were's all this proof of me skanking people
were's the proof for everything said actually

but hey the nova is going now and the sooner the better really as i cant be arsed to do it no more

[blue_peg_16v]

napalm good luck with your business with your present attitude

[napalm_27]

napalm good luck with your business with your present attitude

**** the business i couldnt give a flying **** about it

[Trendall]

i think i will stay out of this thread.......

( thats my comment ) XD

[napalm_27]

i think i will stay out of this thread.......

( thats my comment ) XD

why every other c@nt has joined in so why not one more.?

[let_nova]

take it easy fella.

[Trendall]

why every other c@nt has joined in so why not one more.?

its nothing to do with me. and i dont know you or anyone else really so i have no probem with any of it :)

[napalm_27]

take it easy fella.

i f@cked off with all the usual ****s on this forum thinking there always right about me when they dont even know me
the nova is going its being picked up the end of next week and tbh im f@cking glad
1. it scares the living **** out of me
2. i cant trust myself in it as il end up killing me or some other poor person

end of

[spanishfly]

Unfortunetly I had something like this recently. I bought an engine of a guy, he did the bigend bolts up finger tight so engine would still spin over. To me and engine that spins and bores look good is about as much you could check. Got it home and noticed said loose bolts, took bearings out and there it was... ruined. I had paid £80 as it was mint and rebuilt... I told the seller. He said he didn't have the money and would have it in 2 weeks. I waited, then the day to meet came and I was told to keep the engine and he'll give me £50 back!!! Fuming! Oh well as in the end I sold the bits that were good and as it stands atm I am £30 up, some more items ending today to make me go £50-100 up, also have a crank and pot flywheel to weigh in. A mint late spec block that has been honed and a lighter late starter:)

P.S.: This wasn't this guy, i'm just posting this up to rub it in his face more!

[Trendall]

thats understandable only finger tight not good but then on an engine you cant check as much as you can on other things but if it runs and the test drive is good then sorted if it breaks the next day then well s**t happens really i bought a car took it for a test drive seemed good so i took it the next day relised the CV joints were f**ked and something else was broke but then again i didnt go running back to the guy for my money back as its what you get for buying sencond hand. plus the car only cost me £200 and it cost $50 to fix the gearbox cant you find a tig welder and just patch the hole up? i had to weld my gearbox on my saxo i had as the engine mount snaped a hole in it cost me $25 if you have an airfield near you they use tig welders alot and im sure some kid learning will weld a plate over it for £10 or something.

( so much for me not getting involved in this thread lol )

[djbrowney]

naplan i cant belive somebody bought your car its a dangerous weapon and shouldnt be allowed on our roads, it a public forum people are intitled to the opinion and i for one think you a class one tool lol

[MattBrown]

I think its no ones fault really.

You buy a box off a smashed up car, its been smashed up?

FFS its £70

Just refund him.

However, if nathan didnt know about the problem, then whys everyone slating him?

And if he did, then he is a dick.

Its a total open story, with 100 possible reasons etc.

[bigdan1]

the way i see it is if your buying something 2nd hand then you have to check it yourself i wouldnt go and look at a car and take the sellers word for it they might not look in places i do!
i wouldnt give a refund persoanlly especially if it was sold as seen but if i new about it id tell the person buying it and charge abit less i dont blag people im honest.

[napalm_27]

thing is i told him everything i could about it from what i knew
the clutch release arm hand been pushed in abit so i adjusted it once the box was off for him and told him i even told him it caused the bearing/pressure plate to whine as the arm wasnt functioning as it should and he was fine about that
i showed him the box he looked at it i took it to his car he opened the boot i put it in he went thats the story no hidden nasties or anything

i havnt got money to pay my own phone bill let alone give some one £70 back

and djbrowney i think your a prick but i dont go shouting about it :thumb:

[djbrowney]

thing is i told him everything i could about it from what i knew
the clutch release arm hand been pushed in abit so i adjusted it once the box was off for him and told him i even told him it caused the bearing/pressure plate to whine as the arm wasnt functioning as it should and he was fine about that
i showed him the box he looked at it i took it to his car he opened the boot i put it in he went thats the story no hidden nasties or anything

i havnt got money to pay my own phone bill let alone give some one £70 back

and djbrowney i think your a prick but i dont go shouting about it :thumb:

you just did lol

[napalm_27]

you just did lol

owell couldnt give a toss tbh
id say it to you and everyone else that asked me about you

[bigdan1]

thing is i told him everything i could about it from what i knew
the clutch release arm hand been pushed in abit so i adjusted it once the box was off for him and told him i even told him it caused the bearing/pressure plate to whine as the arm wasnt functioning as it should and he was fine about that
i showed him the box he looked at it i took it to his car he opened the boot i put it in he went thats the story no hidden nasties or anything

i havnt got money to pay my own phone bill let alone give some one £70 back

and djbrowney i think your a prick but i dont go shouting about it :thumb:

lol if he new all that then he shouldnt complain if theres a hole tbh what can you expect from a box thats been in a crash and you new about it?

[mayhem]

FFS.

give fastcar1 guy his money back, and you fight it out with the guy you bought the gearbox from.

[moffat]

oft some bitching going on.

agree with mayhem give him his money back

[davidfox280585]

handbags fight ftw

[Pete]

if you had it apart Napalm like you said, it open's up more possibilties(sp)
-you could have put it there (not saying you did)
-how could you not notice it?
-if the apparent teeth are missing as said why was it not mentioned, which obviously makes me think that you knew about the hole.

thats just my opinion, im on no-one's side, but tbh Napalm, if someone is buying your nova, you'll have some money, i mean its not hard to refund £70 when you sell ur car?
Just be the better person, i mean you got a bad rep from before. just show you aint like that anymore.

[napalm_27]

i never opened the box up pete i was told all this by w88rdy
but havnt seen or heard anything about this on the thread
so its either a load of tosh or some one hasnt mentioned it yet

as iv said over and over it was sold how i got it simple as no more need saying about it
but why i should refund him if the box works fine i dont know (which it does)
if the box all of a sudden had a vile nasty noise coming out of it then i would say scrap it and il give you the money back but its not like the box is un-useable as i proved that and so did nobby when we both run it in our nova's on the same engine at that aswell
so there's not much reason for a refund except a hole i didnt know about which can be sealed up with ease its just him being an **** about it tbh

and to clarify i said the box worked 100% there was no mention about it externally being 100% even tho to my knowledge it was

[Mazz]

50/50 imo, so refund half..

[napalm_27]

theres no reason for me to refund anything tbh
the box was described as working which it is
he looked at it he was happy end of im fed up of explaining myself to strangers

[Mazz]

:gay:

[Ricky G]

i dont understand why your kicking off and throwing your toy's out of your pram, you getting the hump and being an idiot just makes you look guilty and as you said, like you dont give a flying fuk.

just be reasonable and talk it through with the buyer, maybe refund half as it is a 50/50 thing. i picked something up from you once and it was as described, you were a reasonable person, but i live a maximum of 15 mins from your doorstep so if i had a problem then i would have been able to pop back, you have to feel a bit sorry for this fella when he has travelled so far??? or not? i dont see how your attitude will get you far in life, let alone a business?

[napalm_27]

i dont understand why your kicking off and throwing your toy's out of your pram, you getting the hump and being an idiot just makes you look guilty and as you said, like you dont give a flying fuk.

just be reasonable and talk it through with the buyer, maybe refund half as it is a 50/50 thing. i picked something up from you once and it was as described, you were a reasonable person, but i live a maximum of 15 mins from your doorstep so if i had a problem then i would have been able to pop back, you have to feel a bit sorry for this fella when he has travelled so far??? or not? i dont see how your attitude will get you far in life, let alone a business?

did you.? :confused: i cant even remember tbh

[Ricky G]

yes, it was a bucket seat for a stock car, very simple, you told me it had a rip, wasnt the best but certainly useable and in a good, safe condition. i picked it up and it's in my stock car to this day. a perfect sale and no bull**** from you.
i just dont see why you have to react how you do, it just makes you look guilty. it sounds more like money is your problem, you dont have it so you adopt a ****e attitude to anyone trying to get any out of you. just be reasonable, look at the situation and ask if you could have done more to help the outcome, are you responsible, and if so come to an agreement.

[fastcar1cars]

Like i said i cant be arsed with all this! Its just i saw napalm could waist £16 on a ebay advert and not refund me! I was never informed it was in a crash! This IS the first i have heard of this!!
Nathan if you sellin your car next week ill be happy to wait till then!!

[spanishfly]

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150245

buy that and give that to him:)

[Alex J]

imo if the box wasnt as described you should have given a full refund, weather it was your fault or not. If you buy a second hand car from a garage and it breaks they fix it, very simple !!!

im surprised you havent been banned from this last time around !!!i agree, give the guy his money back!

[napalm_27]

Like i said i cant be arsed with all this! Its just i saw napalm could waist £16 on a ebay advert and not refund me! I was never informed it was in a crash! This IS the first i have heard of this!!
Nathan if you sellin your car next week ill be happy to wait till then!!

the bloke that pointed you in my direction crashed the car in the first place the same person that owned the gearbox in the first place
i did tell you it was in a crash when i said the arm had been pushed back and it was when you were standing infront of me

[napalm_27]

yes, it was a bucket seat for a stock car, very simple, you told me it had a rip, wasnt the best but certainly useable and in a good, safe condition. i picked it up and it's in my stock car to this day. a perfect sale and no bull**** from you.
i just dont see why you have to react how you do, it just makes you look guilty. it sounds more like money is your problem, you dont have it so you adopt a ****e attitude to anyone trying to get any out of you. just be reasonable, look at the situation and ask if you could have done more to help the outcome, are you responsible, and if so come to an agreement.

orite hi lol
didnt realise it was you mate sorry
but i react like this for a reason
im pissed off of this **** and i have no money simple