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Sloth
23-06-10, 01:17 PM
who was doing this on here? been beaten to it...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mk1-fiesta-C20XE-/300439731254?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item45f39a7c36
mowgli
23-06-10, 01:20 PM
but why didn't he just put a zetec in???
Connor
23-06-10, 01:22 PM
but why didn't he just put a zetec in???

What i was thinking
Sloth
23-06-10, 01:22 PM
true, bet its fun. c20let anyone?
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 01:23 PM
quite a few people have done it Rob, apparently grasstrackers have been doing it for years. And yeh a Zetec would make much more sense
Connor
23-06-10, 01:30 PM
out of interest how much do the zetec engines roughly go for?
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 01:33 PM
a 2.0 Zetec with all ancilliaries can be picked up for £150. Bear in mind that to fit the BC/IB5 gearbox to run in a Fiesta/Escort etc the flywheel clutch and sump need swapping for the 1800 items.
BRoadGhost
23-06-10, 01:36 PM
He went C20XE because you can do the clutch in situ ;D
Sloth
23-06-10, 01:48 PM
also fitting a 5 speed to the mk1 means cutting thee n/s chassis leg.
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 01:53 PM
also fitting a 5 speed to the mk1 means cutting thee n/s chassis leg.

yep but well worth doing. A Zetec on carbs with a 5 speed box would be spot on in a Mk1 :thumb:
MattBrown
23-06-10, 02:46 PM
but why didn't he just put a zetec in???

Or a new Duratec.

170bhp FTMFWlol
Sloth
23-06-10, 02:49 PM
/\ iirc duratecs dont mate to bc or ib5 boxes due to a mazda bellhousing pattern.
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 02:49 PM
and a hell of a challenge as its completely different to the Zetec engines

EDIT: rob is correct with bellhousing pattern, as well as hydraulic clutch and exhaust and inlet being on the opposite sides to the Zetec
Sloth
23-06-10, 02:49 PM
so to summarise posts 12 + 13, matt fails again.
L14MNP
23-06-10, 03:53 PM
Depends what parts you have at your disposal IMO. Cost is always a factor too.
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 03:55 PM
If money was no object a Cosworth 2.3 Duratec on throttle bodies in a Mk1 Fez would be awesome, mounted longitudinally of course lol
auzzy-b
23-06-10, 06:21 PM
a mate of mine wants to ztec his mk2 fiesta, anyone have any info/links for this? i need to tempt him into just doing it!
mowgli
23-06-10, 06:57 PM
a mate of mine wants to ztec his mk2 fiesta, anyone have any info/links for this? i need to tempt him into just doing it!

make sure he never watches the chop shop episode where they did it to a mk3.........
Sloth
23-06-10, 09:43 PM
http://www.quantums.info/zetecinMk2.htm
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 09:51 PM
forgot how much needed swapping over from an 1800, got to question if its worth the extra 200cc
Sloth
23-06-10, 09:56 PM
find a 130 bhp 1800. no need for the 2.0.
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 09:58 PM
as in the RS1800 inlet, cams and ECU. There was a lad with a blue Mk3 track car with an 1800 knocking out 230bhp on ITBs. Apparently the 1800 block is stronger and was bored out to 1927cc for steel high comp pistons
Sloth
23-06-10, 10:14 PM
yeh, there are 2 1.8's the 115 and the 130. escort gti's, rs1800, and a few others had em.
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 10:21 PM
pretty sure there are some 105bhp models as well :p
Sloth
23-06-10, 10:24 PM
probably. it is ford ffs.... lol
craig green
23-06-10, 11:02 PM
It was always a mod to put the bigger 1.8 16v Orion TB on the XR2 1.8 16v's iirc.
mk1nova_rich
23-06-10, 11:03 PM
yeh Mk5 Orions had the 130bhp engine too, and were probably more common than the RS1800s.
mowgli
23-06-10, 11:06 PM
yeh Mk5 Orions had the 130bhp engine too, and were probably more common than the RS1800s.

i got one of those orions for a weekend rental once..... boring as hell to look at, but hilarious to drive
Sloth
23-06-10, 11:10 PM
its an onion not an orion....
davidfox280585
23-06-10, 11:13 PM
the zetec was desingned to be an 1800 so the 2.0 are bored 1800s and the 1600s are scaled down thats why ive chosen a 1800 zvh turbo in my series one as to the common 2.1
mowgli
23-06-10, 11:29 PM
the zetec was desingned to be an 1800 so the 2.0 are bored 1800s and the 1600s are scaled down thats why ive chosen a 1800 zvh turbo in my series one as to the common 2.1

ever heard of a model range???? they were designed as a 1.6, 1.8 & 2.0 at the same time...... yes, the 1.8 is probably the most common, as is the 1.8 ecotec, but that is because of company car tax etc
Sloth
24-06-10, 12:09 AM
and its based around the 1.6 cvh so the 1.6 is prob the starting point.
mowgli
24-06-10, 12:10 AM
and the yanks stroked the 1.6 to make a 1.9
Sloth
24-06-10, 12:12 AM
yup, iirc you can overbore a 1.9 to 2015cc but its pointless. if i had a mk1 fez, 2.0 zetec bottom end woth a cvh hemi head and itb's.
matt_vaughan
24-06-10, 06:26 AM
Anyone else think he might have just had an XE hanging around, and though meh, it's different?

Without people like him, we wouldnt have Saab turbo Astras in the world, or the plethora of new age 16v old school minis :D
fessernick
24-06-10, 11:16 AM
i agree with matt but im still keeping the x flow in my mk1 fez!!