1.7td over ecowreck discussion

[burgo]

a 1.7td would be quicker then an ecowreck lol

[Nova_Tek]

You sure birthday boy?

[burgo]

You sure birthday boy?110% my brothers 1.7td is putting out 170lb ft of torque at the mo, thats limited by the turbo, with a bigger one it should be closer to 200 lb ft

[Nova_Tek]

That's tuned though so don't count :p

[burgo]

course it does, takes half an hour and a cheap ebay intercooler to get that power. how much would it cost to gt the same out of an ecowreck. then fail!! this conversion is a false economy conversion lol

[davidfox280585]

a 1.7td would be quicker then an ecowreck lol
i agree my cav flies far better engine:)

[Nova_Tek]

What sort of performance are you guys getting then from your diesel?

[burgo]

well a 1.5td nova on here running a bog standard engine other than the boost and fuel turned up is putting out 105 bhp and 130lbft of torque. with the N/A inlet and a decent intercooler this would on increase more. even so without them that is more than the 1.6 8v's easily.

then consider a relitively simple ish 1.7td conversion, as already said my brothers 1.7td currently puts out 110bhp and 170lb ft of torque, that was with the boost spiking at 21psi and tailing off to 17psi so a hell of alot more to come out of it with a better turbo.

i predict 130bhp and 200lbft of torque, thats not far off ecowreck horsepower but LET torque!!

[Nova_Tek]

what's the 0-60 like?

[burgo]

not sure, never tried it. quick is all i know lol

[mowgli]

what's the 0-60 like?

0-60 isn't a great gauge of a cars performance ..... 50-70 is way more useful

a stock 1.5td will waste a 1.4 nova & give a gte a hard time, so a 1.7td will be mixing it with xe's

[Nova_Tek]

It's impossible to do 50mph at a set of traffic lights though ;)

[mowgli]

traffic light grand prix racing is so american......... driving on twiddly twisty roads is where its at......

[Nova_Tek]

you try find a tiwsty twiddly road in London, even they have traffic lights lol

[General Baxter]

TD everytime, even my old cav, with moon miles on, 100.5bhp and 140ftlb would give a gte a good go lol

and may you not forget,

400miles, at 85-90mph and a rolling road, all on 3/4 tank lol

[mowgli]

ah, that housing estate just south of luton...... you have my sympathy.......

[napalm_27]

ah, that housing estate just south of luton...... you have my sympathy.......

what one lol theres a few lol

[mowgli]

what one lol theres a few lol

London...

[davidfox280585]

my td cav nailed a 2004 tdci mondeo and a 1.8 16v eco vectra was on par with a 2.0 vec but he couldnt shift me and on the motorway side by side with a vectra c 2.0 at Ahem 115 he couldnt shift the oil burner lol

[davidfox280585]

pics of my td
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/21012010301.jpg
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/09052010077.jpg

ISUZU ALL THE WAY

[mowgli]

thats one filthy expansion bottle.......

[davidfox280585]

thats one filthy expansion bottle.......
lol i know its my work bus,though cant help resist fiddling with it,pulls well great torque good mpg as long as you can smile while your kicking clouds of black smoke out the back you will love em:thumb:

[Sloth]

x20xev. then save up for a set of s/h zlet pistons and turbo, and some megasquirt. easy 250bhp

[burgo]

lovely looking cav david. now imagine your 1.7TD in a nova!! try and tell me that wouldnt be quick

[davidfox280585]

lovely looking cav david. now imagine your 1.7TD in a nova!! try and tell me that wouldnt be quick
heres my last 17td burgo
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk100/davidfox280585/20102008001.jpg

who said 106gtis were quick oh the ones that tried lol
not a lot could catch my little van 1.7td obviously tweaked
spins wheels through first and second and pulls hard through third gear

131mph i had form her cant fault it only sold it as i got the combo c the red one slammed on speedlines
really if he takes the td out hes stupid imo
the count wont be building a 1.7td nova if they were crap :thumb:

[General Baxter]

david, how much for the bus lol

[davidfox280585]

david, how much for the bus lol
not for sale dude she does 150 mile a day and i know i wont get a comfier barge which costs so little to run and i know its been maintained etc as its serviced to death and ive done belts on her sorry mate:)

[Rickyb]

i cant see any of the pics but ide rather have an oil burner than a big block nova anyday.

[Dod]

Pics aren't working Dave mate.

I'm a HUGE Cav fan as Everyone will tell you but I ****ing hate Diesels. That said, I'd have one over an XEV anyday.

The Engines themselves are pretty decent and can be tuned for big power gains as GM have them pretty well restricetd but its everything else on them that makes the XEV Transplant a Fail. Problematic sensors, additional wiring for the Imobilizer and the aweful F18 Gear boxes and remember, these will have the wide belt pulleys.

I say go for TD.

[Balley]

well a 1.5td nova on here running a bog standard engine other than the boost and fuel turned up is putting out 105 bhp and 130lbft of torque. with the N/A inlet and a decent intercooler this would on increase more. even so without them that is more than the 1.6 8v's easily.

This will be me,... and about 8 seconds to 60mph .. when I got it it were doing 11s! So she has improved a hell of a lot..

[Nova_Tek]

my td cav nailed a 2004 tdci mondeo and a 1.8 16v eco vectra was on par with a 2.0 vec but he couldnt shift me and on the motorway side by side with a vectra c 2.0 at Ahem 115 he couldnt shift the oil burner lol

but the Vec XEV's aren't as quick as a Cav XEV

[Dod]

Vectras weigh **** loads more as well and the engines in Cavs and Vectras are actually different (bottom end wise)

[Nova_Tek]

Pics aren't working Dave mate.

I'm a HUGE Cav fan as Everyone will tell you but I ****ing hate Diesels. That said, I'd have one over an XEV anyday.

The Engines themselves are pretty decent and can be tuned for big power gains as GM have them pretty well restricetd but its everything else on them that makes the XEV Transplant a Fail. Problematic sensors, additional wiring for the Imobilizer and the aweful F18 Gear boxes and remember, these will have the wide belt pulleys.

I say go for TD.

Early XEV's has no transponder for all that immob rubbish and the F18 back then wasn't made of that soft cheese with holes in it. Sensor problems are normlly just rubbish cheap wiring made of cheese strings and the ICV get's dirtier quicker than a hoe's underwear.

[Dod]

The blocks, internals and sumps were also different and the F18s were cable and not Hydro operated but were still cheese.

[Nova_Tek]

Vectras weigh **** loads more as well and the engines in Cavs and Vectras are actually different (bottom end wise)

Exactly they weight a fair bit more, that's why the Cav will smash all Vecs except the V6's of course.