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Lee
04-06-10, 10:00 PM
I'm not one to listen to the sort of tripe that comes out of the Daily Mail, but I now have hard evidence that this is going on and i'm literally boiling with rage.

One of Hayleys work mates was turned away from a nightclub last night because he was wearing an england shirt due it possibly being offensive (was nothing to do with dress code, this is yate... there IS no dress code lol), and then later on today she was in the pub and the landlord showed her a letter he'd recieved from the council telling him not to hang england flags outside his pub due to causing possible offense. Thankfully he screwed it up and threw it in the bin, and I hope other publicans do the same.

How on earth do the government expect to sort out racism whilst doing things like that? Ive never had a huge opinion on immigration etc, but after seeing this absolute rhubarb for my own eyes even I want them out, and they probably arn't even offended by england flags at all. Its just stupid old burgers sat on the council thining that being proud to be english is offensive!

Now I, like probably most of you, hate the wnaker flags that people have on their cars during the world cup, but i'm going out tomorrow and buying a **** load of them for the van (and for the loonaque) and I may even go as far as sticking a poster in the back window of the van saying something along the lines of 'Do my flags offend you? ..... Good!'.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:04 PM
Dunno what the fascination is with all this flag business. What is the problem with people showing the flag of their nation/country/who they support?

As long as no one burns one then I'm sure things will stay peacefull.

Lee
04-06-10, 10:09 PM
Dunno what the fascination is with all this flag business. What is the problem with people showing the flag of their nation/country/who they support?

As long as no one burns one then I'm sure things will stay peacefull.

Unfortunately, its the Muslims. They find crosses offensive according to the council. Obviously not all muslims, i would imagine its the same radical group who find flying a plane full of people into a building un-offensive.

Cle
04-06-10, 10:09 PM
I think that takes the utter pi$$, They wont tell any forigners (sp) to take down there home flags will they, stuff like that really pi$$'s me off.

But then again it is and english flag lol ........................tis a joke dont take it serious.

Jack
04-06-10, 10:10 PM
I'm English. I don't need to stick multiple flags on my car to show my patriotism.

Mind you, I couldn't give a flying wombat's liver about the world cup. Only that I hope the USA beat us lol


Unfortunately, its the Muslims. They find crosses offensive according to the council. Obviously not all muslims, i would imagine its the same radical group who find flying a plane full of people into a building un-offensive.
Actually its not; whenever you see people ranting on about racism it always seems to be middle aged white people. Its like some form of self harm perhaps.

Sloth
04-06-10, 10:11 PM
its simple, you come here, you live by our rules and customs etc. you dont like it, gtfo.

Lee
04-06-10, 10:12 PM
I'm English. I don't need to stick multiple flags on my car to show my patriotism.

Mind you, I couldn't give a flying wombat's liver about the world cup. Only that I hope the USA beat us lol

Im the same tbh, its just the principal of it. As i said, i've read about things like this in the paper and never believed it, but now seeing it for real makes me angry as fook.

Lee
04-06-10, 10:14 PM
Actually its not; whenever you see people ranting on about racism it always seems to be middle aged white people. Its like some form of self harm perhaps.

Be it the muslims themselves, or the duffers on the council, they are the reason OR the reason put forward for the cross being offensive.

John
04-06-10, 10:15 PM
Unfortunately, its the Muslims. They find crosses offensive according to the council. Obviously not all muslims, i would imagine its the same radical group who find flying a plane full of people into a building un-offensive.

:thumb:

Spudly
04-06-10, 10:17 PM
I said before, if i could afford to buy an england football shirt i would, and o would wear the fooker to work and everyday for as long as needed, i think we should simply have a 'live by our rules/laws, or fook off' sign on our door!

Cle
04-06-10, 10:21 PM
i think we should simply have a 'live by our rules/laws, or fook off' sign on our door!

agreed :thumb:

Lee
04-06-10, 10:22 PM
'live by our rules/laws, or fook off' sign on our door!

All legislation like this does is make the British public MORE racist.

I would bet money on normal respectable muslim (or any other for that matter) immigrants wishing the council would stop all this crap because all it does is breed more ignorance. How many meatheads are going to go out and smash a few peoples heads in just because they think anyone who isn't white wants to ban the flag?

wwmnw
04-06-10, 10:23 PM
If we went to pakistan/iraq/afghan etc (and it was safe to do so) I'm pretty sure we would have to live by their laws and life style. If only the UK grew the balls the Australian prime minister has.

Lee
04-06-10, 10:24 PM
If only the UK grew the balls the Australian prime minister has.

Amen to that!

Dave.
04-06-10, 10:24 PM
A pub round our way has a england flag painted right across the front of it lol

IMO, if you dont like us hanging flags to support our country, then hop on your camel and **** off home out of our country! :D

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:25 PM
Unfortunately, its the Muslims. They find crosses offensive according to the council. Obviously not all muslims, i would imagine its the same radical group who find flying a plane full of people into a building un-offensive.

I'm a muslim mate and I hardly find anything offensive, how many radical Muslims do you see on the streets?

Just a few of societies idiots screwing it up for every other decent person out there.

Sloth
04-06-10, 10:27 PM
@ wooooooooooooombrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooo oooommmmmmmm:
tru dat/\

stick em all on an island 500 miles offshore, leave em for 3 years and say "no ta" <--aussie immigration.

Jack
04-06-10, 10:29 PM
If we went to pakistan/iraq/afghan etc (and it was safe to do so) I'm pretty sure we would have to live by their laws and life style. If only the UK grew the balls the Australian prime minister has.
Funnily enough, most Arabic countries are dry. We're expected to abide by their laws on drinking over there (ok, some do make small exceptions, but are still very strict on it)

Lee
04-06-10, 10:29 PM
I'm a muslim mate and I hardly find anything offensive, how many radical Muslims do you see on the streets?

Just a few of societies idiots screwing it up for every other decent person out there.

Exactly my point! How does your average amoeba distinguish a radical from from you? They cant, therefore its made the street more unsafe for you to be on.

brownbear
04-06-10, 10:32 PM
Hate to throw a spanner in the works but it's bollocks, The government and police have stated that nothing is offensive about england flags.

It's all rumours to promote anger against other races by the BNP or similar.

Don't get drawn into it and do some simple research before you pop it on a widely used forum otherwise your no better than the racist small minded waste of a white skin that started the rumours or the landlord that chose exerts from the letter to create a stir/make him look better than the law/coloured people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8697240.stm

wwmnw
04-06-10, 10:33 PM
Hate to throw a spanner in the works but it's bollocks, The government and police have stated that nothing is offensive about england flags.

It's all rumours to promote anger against other races by the BNP or similar.

Don't get drawn into it and do some simple research before you pop it on a widely used forum otherwise your no better than the racist small minded waste of a white skin that started the rumours or the landlord that chose exerts from the letter to create a stir/make him look better than the law/coloured people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8697240.stm

As Lee said, he has seen this for him self though, and his Mrs saw a letter from the council in a pub.

Lee
04-06-10, 10:33 PM
Well she saw the letter for her own eyes, she's not stupid and knows an official letter when she sees it, and she's got no reason to lie to me Tom.

And this post is not against immigrants, its against the council who create the legislation in the first place.


Hate to throw a spanner in the works but it's bollocks, The government and police have stated that nothing is offensive about england flags.

It's all rumours to promote anger against other races by the BNP or similar.

Don't get drawn into it and do some simple research before you pop it on a widely used forum otherwise your no better than the racist small minded waste of a white skin that started the rumours or the landlord that chose exerts from the letter to create a stir/make him look better than the law/coloured people.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8697240.stm

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:33 PM
It's always the case, a small group of people will start a fight coz they lost a match or something and can't take it so they start a fight. Simples.

back a good few years ago when the whole flga craze hit the UK and everyone stuck up their flag on there cars/homes etc my bro, dad and I were stopped by the feds to take down our flag (Turkish) coz it may cause offence. It was ridiculous but what can you do?

How boring and colourless would the world sup be if supported actually at the stadiums weren't allowed to take along their flag? We may aswell remove flags off the internet and in books.

DP you really have to show a flag to start a fight, if some :tosser: wnats to start a fight then I'm sure he can without him needing to see a symbol and colours on a synthtic fibre cloth.

Spudly
04-06-10, 10:36 PM
Exactly as you said Lee, our own worst enemy is our own bloody government, they pander to the expected wishes of anyone and everyone in this country apart from the white people, so although the anger towards foriegners in our country is kind of correct, it is misplaced anger!

brownbear
04-06-10, 10:37 PM
I've seen the letter and read it word for word as my housemate works in a hotel with a licensed bar and a pub attached. (renound for trouble drugs and hookers and gangs. lol)

It's a generic blanket letter to all licensed premises stating the best way to deal with possible trouble, emergency contacts etc and to keep an eye on shirts with matching names, etc etc gangs and all that boll**ks and also if your premesis is a trouble hot spots (where drink is stupidly cheap etc etc) it advises you don't overly advertise the matches are shown as if you sell cheap beer are in a rough area and are showing the world cup your asking for trouble....

It's nothing as bad as you guys think honestly. It merely advises the roughest of the rough pubs not to put up loads of world cup shizzle.

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:37 PM
As Lee said, he has seen this for him self though, and his Mrs saw a letter from the council in a pub.

TBH if I ever got a letter form a council saying it was illegal to put up a flag, I'd be ringing up asking why? It's silly if a council needs to resort to that type of activity.

They've got nothing better to do, probably trying to justify next years A4 paper budget.


I've seen the letter and read it word for word as my housemate works in a hotel with a licensed bar and a pub attached. (renound for trouble drugs and hookers and gangs. lol)

It's a generic blanket letter to all licensed premises stating the best way to deal with possible trouble, emergency contacts etc and to keep an eye on shirts with matching names, etc etc gangs and all that boll**ks and also if your premesis is a trouble hot spots (where drink is stupidly cheap etc etc) it advises you don't overly advertise the matches are shown as if you sell cheap beer are ina rough area and are showing the world cup your asking for trouble....


That's understabdable but a shame that it has to be done that way. I'd much rather let people in but soon as some fool starts something kick him out.

Jack
04-06-10, 10:39 PM
No, our own worst enemy is our media. Namely, the newspapers.

Tom's link summed it up perfectly


The advice sparked newspaper stories
Bang. Barry and Barrietta Chav are all too easily manipulated by the likes of the Sun, Daily Mail etc.

Benn
04-06-10, 10:40 PM
Unfortunately, its the Muslims. They find crosses offensive according to the council. Obviously not all muslims, i would imagine its the same radical group who find flying a plane full of people into a building un-offensive.


Its not there country. They wanna live here, they should have to follow our rules.

You would be killed if you went over there and built a chruch and started telling them off for doing what they do.

If you dont like where you live, leave!

Lee
04-06-10, 10:42 PM
It was headed paper from Yate council, and the words 'Please do not display a st-georges cross' was clearly typed in black ink. I know because I was just as sceptical when she told me.

TBH I think even sending the below letter to a pub in a rough area is just as laughable. Would you tell a bloke who works in a zoo to look out for the lions? :roll:



I've seen the letter and read it word for word as my housemate works in a hotel with a licensed bar and a pub attached. (renound for trouble drugs and hookers and gangs. lol)

It's a generic blanket letter to all licensed premises stating the best way to deal with possible trouble, emergency contacts etc and to keep an eye on shirts with matching names, etc etc gangs and all that boll**ks and also if your premesis is a trouble hot spots (where drink is stupidly cheap etc etc) it advises you don't overly advertise the matches are shown as if you sell cheap beer are in a rough area and are showing the world cup your asking for trouble....

It's nothing as bad as you guys think honestly. It merely advises the roughest of the rough pubs not to put up loads of world cup shizzle.

Lee
04-06-10, 10:44 PM
Its not there country. They wanna live here, they should have to follow our rules.

You would be killed if you went over there and built a chruch and started telling them off for doing what they do.

If you dont like where you live, leave!

Again, a good point made there. You're angry with the immigrants because of the council and / or our media.

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:45 PM
Maybe they should just fine the media for coming up with utter sh*te.

Spudly
04-06-10, 10:47 PM
Maybe they should just fine the media for coming up with utter sh*te.



If that were possible mate, there'd be no media as they would be out business tomorrow:eek:

General Baxter
04-06-10, 10:47 PM
i might hang a sadam doll from my window, whilst wearing a yank football top,

i like to see what **** i can cause lol

Lee
04-06-10, 10:48 PM
i might hang a sadam doll from my window, whilse wearing a yank football top,

i like to see what **** i can cause lol

TBH you'll offend most english people wearing something American lol

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:48 PM
If that were possible mate, there'd be no media as they would be out business tomorrow:eek:

Just replace evey bit of sh*te news with a page 3 bird. That'll keep sales up (and a few other things too) lol

brownbear
04-06-10, 10:48 PM
Guys guys GUYS! I've read the letter. IT advises. Look at the publican...

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?storycode=66579

Lee i'm not accusing your Mrs of lying i'm just stating i have seen the same letter and it in no way says it's illegal to put the flags up..

It is an official letter. It does state that if your pub is a s**t hole in scrotesville you are advised not to advertise the world cup too much.... with flags etc.

A twisted story from a landlord whom could have shown your mrs select exerts from the letter is not a reason to argue a case with somebody whom has seen the letter and also has posted a link direct from the bbc website that disproves the web that has been woven for your mrs.... I'm sorry Lee but I have to say that there has been a ill advised story transfered to your mrs by a bitter landlord...

Jack
04-06-10, 10:49 PM
TBH I think even sending the below letter to a pub in a rough area is just as laughable. Would you tell a bloke who works in a zoo to look out for the lions? :roll:
Yes! Lions can be dangerous. I've seen them eat PEOPLE!

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:51 PM
Guys guys GUYS! I've read the letter. IT advises. Look at the publican...

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?storycode=66579

Lee i'm not accusing your Mrs of lying i'm just stating i have seen the same letter and it in no way says it's illegal to put the flags up..

It is an official letter. It does state that if your pub is a s**t hole in scrotesville you are advised not to advertise the world cup too much.... with flags etc.

A twisted story from a landlord whom could have shown your mrs select exerts from the letter is not a reason to argue a case with somebody whom has seen the letter and also has posted a link direct from the bbc website that disproves the web that has been woven for your mrs.... I'm sorry Lee but I have to say that there has been a ill advised story transfered to your mrs by a bitter landlord...

Joe bloggs - Mate, how comes there's no flags in this pub?

Landlord - Cause this place is a s*ithole and you lot live in scrotesville so the council said it's best not to put any up.

lol

brownbear
04-06-10, 10:52 PM
Joe bloggs - Mate, how comes there's no flags in this pub?

Landlord - Cause this place is a s*ithole and you lot live in scrotesville so the council said it's best not to put any up.

lol

joe Bloggs - True keep the di*kheads out. Pint of stella please...

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 10:54 PM
Landlord - Ok mate, that'll be £8.

Joe Bloggs - 8 quid? why the price increase?

Landlord - The council recommended it!

lol

Lee
04-06-10, 10:54 PM
Did the letter come from yate council?, and did it say 'Please do not display the st Georges cross'? If it didn't, then you have NOT seen the same letter. This letter was not a national release, it was a letter from the local council.

Obviously I can't confirm whether the publican was up all night fabricating a letter from the council just to impress the 3 people who come into the pub after night shift!



Guys guys GUYS! I've read the letter. IT advises. Look at the publican...

http://www.thepublican.com/story.asp?storycode=66579

Lee i'm not accusing your Mrs of lying i'm just stating i have seen the same letter and it in no way says it's illegal to put the flags up..

It is an official letter. It does state that if your pub is a s**t hole in scrotesville you are advised not to advertise the world cup too much.... with flags etc.

A twisted story from a landlord whom could have shown your mrs select exerts from the letter is not a reason to argue a case with somebody whom has seen the letter and also has posted a link direct from the bbc website that disproves the web that has been woven for your mrs.... I'm sorry Lee but I have to say that there has been a ill advised story transfered to your mrs by a bitter landlord...

brownbear
04-06-10, 10:57 PM
Did the letter come from yate council?, and did it say 'Please do not display the st Georges cross'? If it didn't, then you have NOT seen the same letter. This letter was not a national release, it was a letter from the local council.

Obviously I can't confirm whether the publican was up all night fabricating a letter from the council just to impress the 3 people who come into the pub after night shift!

In that case i'm deeply shocked that a local council has done that.

Lee
04-06-10, 11:00 PM
In that case i'm deeply shocked that a local council has done that.

Hense the reason for my original post lol

Tom, as i said right at the start, i dont get riled by stories like this, and neither does hayley, as has been mentioned the press do a great job of making us hate everything about this country, but she saw this letter with her own eyes and she has a memory a billion times better than mine so I have no doubt whatsoever what she told me was the truth.

Spudly
04-06-10, 11:05 PM
Like a story my dad related to me, 90% of muslims and foreginers will not be offended by england flags, its our own namby pamby stupid fooking government who cause all of these damned problems and are the ones to blame behind all of this!

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 11:07 PM
^ Exactly, like I said, it's those stoopid fools which make up a very small majority of society that ruin it for people who just want to have a good time and are happy in seeing other nationes colours.

The govenrment are are the ones who just blow it out of proprtion and make it sound like a war is imminent.

hendrix
04-06-10, 11:08 PM
I got my Greek and England flags up at home lol

brownbear
04-06-10, 11:09 PM
...

Lee
04-06-10, 11:14 PM
Same with most laws. Ive ranted about the mobile phone law in cars before. I totally agree that people shouldnt talk on their handset when driving at motorway speeds or in the town, but because of the blanket ban I can get 3 points and a fine if im sat in stationary traffic with the handbrake on and I quickly check my phone for texts.

Smoking ban is another one. Over here we cant have a sensible ban like on the continent where food pubs have no smoking, but drinking pubs have smoking sections with decent air extraction (bar i was in in germany there were about 20 of us smoking and in the non smoking half of the bar you couldn't even smell it, let alone see any smoke). Oh no, over here we have to ban smoking ANYWHERE that has more than one side on it with a roof. SO that includes bus shelters that just have a roof and a back part. Stupid.

Sloth
04-06-10, 11:17 PM
you have bus shelters? christ most round here have been burnt/crashed into/ stolen

muzzy
04-06-10, 11:20 PM
I'm fed up of seeing English flags all over the TV because I have no interest in the England football team. I do not find it offensive though, in fact I don't find any flag offensive in any way.

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 11:20 PM
^ lol think they stole ones from your area and put them in my area to replace ones that were burnt/crashed into/stolen lol

brownbear
04-06-10, 11:23 PM
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE SMOKING BAN!!

Nightclubs smell worse now than ever! It's either Lynx with a BO undertone or poppers and piss! I'd rather smell of cigs thankyou!

No offense to anybody that wears lynx as a fragrance but ffs it's like cat piss spray after 30mins!

Sloth
04-06-10, 11:25 PM
sure for men here. and i totally agree on bo, cider and piss.

my mates dad has a bus shelter in his garden as a shed....

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 11:27 PM
lol Lynx, used to be used so much when I was at secondary school. Whenever I see or smell Lynx it just reminds me of 30 sweaty people in changing rooms after 2 hours of P.E sharing a spary can ... you should've smelt the boys changing rooms too lol

Sanex for men anti-perspirant or Nivea Sİlver Protect anti perspirant ftw.

brownbear
04-06-10, 11:29 PM
I think the government and councils should crack down on Lynx before Flags!

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 11:30 PM
lol

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 11:30 PM
Or spray Lynx on the flags, that'll get them moving lol

brownbear
04-06-10, 11:34 PM
Or spray Lynx on the flags, that'll get them moving lol

LMFAO! I remember doing the Lynx and lighter thing with my last ever can of "Lynx Africa" circa 1996! lol

Lee
04-06-10, 11:36 PM
DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE SMOKING BAN!!

Nightclubs smell worse now than ever! It's either Lynx with a BO undertone or poppers and piss! I'd rather smell of cigs thankyou!

No offense to anybody that wears lynx as a fragrance but ffs it's like cat piss spray after 30mins!

i put a 3d rig into a club in Rotherham a few years back. They were experimenting with pumping nicotine smells back into the club. I mean wtf? lol

Nova_Tek
04-06-10, 11:37 PM
LMFAO! I remember doing the Lynx and lighter thing with my last ever can of "Lynx Africa" circa 1996! lol

lol

My mate used to spary Lynx on his shoes and light it, then walk around school lol

Just see loads of people looking and thinking WTF? :wtf:

Right nutter!

bazil
05-06-10, 12:03 AM
I'm fed up of seeing English flags all over the TV because I have no interest in the England football team. I do not find it offensive though, in fact I don't find any flag offensive in any way.

here you go pal

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy181/Bazil_2468/random1/Scottish-Royal-Lion-Rampant-Flag.gif

TBH what harm can a flag do if it a national flag? When the flag becomes secterian like in parts around here then that's a whole different kettle o fish.

Benn
05-06-10, 08:04 AM
Again, a good point made there. You're angry with the immigrants because of the council and / or our media.

No, i'm angry with the few that do complain, that the media and council turn in to many letters to make everything look worse and try and get their own way.

I hate all these England flags on cars, they look sh*t and even as a none football fan i know England will crash out.

But if it was banned on racist grounds, then i'd have a fan on my van all day.
As its a proud to be British thing from there on...

NovaLad
05-06-10, 08:58 AM
lol who seen that street in Oldham which had a £5 whip around from each house then decorated the whole street with england bunting and flags...
That's a street just over from me lol.
OVER KILL!!!


Me and the dad put 2 flags on our car and i park it in a muslim community alot of times a week & never had 1 problem.
I think the minority of the younger asian lads don't really care they just want to jump on the band wagon but as said it's just a minority.

This whole thing has gotten ridic now!

The government is and allways has been on it's ar$e!

Jack
05-06-10, 09:20 AM
Smoking ban is another one. Over here we cant have a sensible ban like on the continent where food pubs have no smoking, but drinking pubs have smoking sections with decent air extraction (bar i was in in germany there were about 20 of us smoking and in the non smoking half of the bar you couldn't even smell it, let alone see any smoke). Oh no, over here we have to ban smoking ANYWHERE that has more than one side on it with a roof. SO that includes bus shelters that just have a roof and a back part. Stupid.
But thats not a problem for you, as I hear you quit :p



I'm fed up of seeing English flags all over the TV because I have no interest in the England football team.
This is a good point, where's all the tv gubbins and flags etc for the Scots to support their team in the World Cup? What? Oh. Damn.



DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE SMOKING BAN!!

Nightclubs smell worse now than ever! It's either Lynx with a BO undertone or poppers and piss! I'd rather smell of cigs thankyou!

No offense to anybody that wears lynx as a fragrance but ffs it's like cat piss spray after 30mins!
I did find it hilarious how one local club here blamed its recent closing to the smoking ban, i.e. people were staying away because they couldn't smoke in the club. No pal, its because people realised your club stank of poo and they could see how shoite it was inside now the haze of fag smoke had dispersed lol

kelbelle
05-06-10, 10:19 AM
When there was all the fuss last year about calling Christmas 'winter holiday' so as not to offend anyone i watched a news report with some guy who is basically the muslim communities representative and he said that they have abso no problem with our christian holidays or our flags because at the end of the day we dont stop them from celebrating the Id (sp) or Ramadan festivals so why would they stop us.

Jon_nova1
05-06-10, 11:10 AM
I think our local pub got the same letter, because i just walked past it and it must have had 4 england banners stretching from one side to the other, every flag thats competing in the cup full sized of course stuck on the roof on flag poles lol and about 4 other england flags, if i had my phone i would have got a picture lol

novaguy08
05-06-10, 11:32 AM
its simple, you come here, you live by our rules and customs etc. you dont like it, gtfo.

+rep

This is the way it needs to be looked at, people who find these kinda things offensive are IN ENGLAND, if english went flying to their country they would be expected to respect their customs (IE no mini skirts, short sleeve t-shirts or faces on women! but thats another thing!) speak their language, eat their food, however they come here and expect us to change our customs, laws, etc for what they want. Or its offensive.

I swear if someone tells me to take England flags down at work because of offensiveness etc they will be told to take a running jump.

Lee
05-06-10, 12:48 PM
+rep

This is the way it needs to be looked at, people who find these kinda things offensive are IN ENGLAND, if english went flying to their country they would be expected to respect their customs (IE no mini skirts, short sleeve t-shirts or faces on women! but thats another thing!) speak their language, eat their food, however they come here and expect us to change our customs, laws, etc for what they want. Or its offensive.

I swear if someone tells me to take England flags down at work because of offensiveness etc they will be told to take a running jump.

I think you're missing the point. Immigrants probably dont find these things offensive at all, the old farts in charge however, think they do.

Andy
05-06-10, 12:58 PM
The toilet's who make up all this PC brigade BS need sacking from whatever they do.Its a load of shizzle,if someone said to me to take a flag down i would tell them to go fukk themselves.So it offends people??.You could go down the offensive items road forever.I find it very sad that in 2010 we,as a nation get told off for being proud enough to show support for our country by putting flags up.It is a monumental farce.Someone needs to stand up to these fukktards and tell them to fukk right off.I would rather do jail then have some jumped up prikk tell me what i can and cant put up outside my house,especially when its a flag

turnipheed
05-06-10, 01:02 PM
being a jock i dont mind seeing all the england flags on the cars at least then i know which ones to give the fingers to haha only kidding lol it is ridiculous that you cant fly your nations flag in your own nation i would have told the council to go forth and multiply :thumb:

Cle
05-06-10, 02:58 PM
If scotland ever got into the world cup tbh id have flags everywhere lol

mowgli
05-06-10, 07:00 PM
If scotland ever got into the world cup tbh id have flags everywhere lol

all that cost, and so little time... those group stages only last a week you know

archie gemmill's goal is all you've got as a world cup memory....

face it, you haven't even been a separate country for 300 years, and before yuo get all wallace & gromit on me, remember your king became the king of england & merged the kingdoms, and we only have the 'home' nations in football because FIFA was skint & by offering 4 places to british teams, they made enough money to run a world cup in the first place

muzzy
05-06-10, 07:01 PM
all that cost, and so little time... those group stages only last a week you know

archie gemmill's goal is all you've got as a world cup memory....

face it, you haven't even been a separate country for 300 years, and before yuo get all wallace & gromit on me, remember your king became the king of england & merged the kingdoms, and we only have the 'home' nations in football because FIFA was skint & by offering 4 places to british teams, they made enough money to run a world cup in the first place

But it was a bloody good goal :cool:

mowgli
05-06-10, 09:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsc07o0Imn0&feature=related

i'll see your goal & raise you this.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvyd7oSESgw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SCyXGiJ-jc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz5A8oGlgDQ

novaguy08
06-06-10, 09:30 PM
I think you're missing the point. Immigrants probably dont find these things offensive at all, the old farts in charge however, think they do.

Really??

I only heard of polish & other eastern European complaints about these. Actually read in the paper an eastern European bus driver kicked off a mum and baby because the baby was wearing an England baby gro. Said he found it offensive, they rest of the passengers piped up and he let them on in the end.

Mike
06-06-10, 10:25 PM
I only heard of polish & other eastern European complaints about these. Actually read in the paper an eastern European bus driver kicked off a mum and baby because the baby was wearing an England baby gro. Said he found it offensive, they rest of the passengers piped up and he let them on in the end.

I would have chinned the racist motherfcuker.

Discrimination against the origin of people that OWN the country he now lives in! Wheres the justice in that?!

Wont be long before the Poppy day appeals get banned then aswell I suppose.....

Mieran
06-06-10, 10:30 PM
I hate it when people talk about Muslims as if its a race or nationality.

There is MANY countries that follow the religion, each have their own traditions and customs.

Now you might be thinking, errrr what difference does that make? Well it does, some of the people take the piss and other live a normal life, you have analyse whos who.

djshaggeh
06-06-10, 10:33 PM
I have an england flag in the old passenger window of the saloon, the only reason I got one is for added chavness.

My local council obviously don't care about the flags, there is a BnB round the corner from my house and the whole front of it has been painted with the saint georges cross. It not a small place either.

Mike
06-06-10, 10:36 PM
"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer."

IMHO, Religion is no more then a downward spiral into ethnic hatred. But having to forget where you came from, and letting some nobody pull your pants down & expliot that, well, nobody like a spoil sport do they!!!

16v Nova Kev
06-06-10, 10:42 PM
if the muslims or any other gender dont like it they can all just.
F.R.O.

Lee
06-06-10, 10:45 PM
if the muslims or any other gender...


eeeeeeerrrm lol

Mike
06-06-10, 10:46 PM
Qeustion....

If I called my local council & informed them that the flag being displayed at a local religious place of worship was "offensive", ie not the same religion as my own, what do you think would happen?

Andy
06-06-10, 10:52 PM
Qeustion....

If I called my local council & informed them that the flag being displayed at a local religious place of worship was "offensive", ie not the same religion as my own, what do you think would happen?
fakk all

John
06-06-10, 10:54 PM
Qeustion....

If I called my local council & informed them that the flag being displayed at a local religious place of worship was "offensive", ie not the same religion as my own, what do you think would happen?

They'd laugh, then tell you to fcuk off. Simples.

L14MNP
06-06-10, 10:54 PM
^ Nothing, as you being offended their flag would offend the flag waving minorities. lol

This is all one big P1ss take. i 100% agree with those that just want US and our traditions and customs to come first in OUR country. How that was ever viewed as even remotely racist is beyond me. Every other civilised coutry does it!

People say most muslims etc (yeah I will generalise them like the majority do with us) aren't offended by us and want to intergrate with Btitish society. That must be why they set up their own areas in towns and cities with their own shops/schools etc that are basically a no-go area for us!

Even the big nosed kikes do it in Newcastle. I still use 'their' streets though just cos I think i should be allowed to! lol Oy gavolt! lol

LMAO @ gender ^ :d

Sloth
06-06-10, 10:54 PM
youd be arrested for racially motivated hate crimes....

Andy
06-06-10, 10:55 PM
yeah,or a racially aggravated section 5 public order offence no doubt

L14MNP
06-06-10, 10:58 PM
I got done for being in Jewville and was told I wasn't allowed back by the Police. lol All because one of the t0ssers stepped out in front of the car and I blasted the horn at him, he swung for the car with his umbrella and a discussion about respecting my property and following the highway code soon followed. lol

16v Nova Kev
06-06-10, 11:07 PM
eeeeeeerrrm lol

i know im a retard.you know what i meant:roll:

LEWI007
06-06-10, 11:10 PM
The way his country is going on these days is a disgrace.

Im totally ashamed to be from here.

Years ago i wouldnt of been.

Mike
06-06-10, 11:11 PM
yeah,or a racially aggravated section 5 public order offence no doubt

Exactly.

But, if I was a believer in a non specific yet non British faith, it wouldnt be frowned upon.

Which leads me to my previous statement of...


IMHO, Religion is no more then a downward spiral into ethnic hatred

I rest my case.

Richie_B
07-06-10, 10:19 PM
All the flags are pretty annoying tbf



Erectile dysfunction on increase. If you suffer; Please add white flag with red cross to your van or car

blue_peg_16v
07-06-10, 10:31 PM
tbf **** the immigrants im not racist but could you imagine a group of christians moving to one of there countries and being allowed to do what they get away with here no fecking way we would have to live by there rules and cultures and if they want to come here they should live by ours, i have no problem with minorities flying there flags so whats there problem, and alot of imigrants have businesses in town such as take aways etc and they all fly the england flag they realize its good for business, its just political correctness gone mad, i have had an england shirt for 2 years never warn still in the packet unwanted prezzi, and after hearing this dross i got it out the packet last week and war it for the warm up match and will be wearing it throughouut the tournement now feck em

mowgli
07-06-10, 10:34 PM
you lot are amazing........


the reason so many immigrants are here is because after WW2, this country needed a workforce, desperately & put the call out to the 'commonwealth'...and all people prefer to keep within their comfort zone, be it race, religion, footy team, family group etc.....

the only people getting their blood up is the few people who can be bothered to get upset...

our flag will be put up for the world cup, and i will enjoy any conversation with anyone who wants to call me offensive.... i live 5 miles from the centre of england, and i will argue my corner... ps. the family in our street who put up the most flags & for that matter, xmas lights are a mixed race white/indian family......

djshaggeh
07-06-10, 10:50 PM
the only people getting their blood up is the few people who can be bothered to get upset...

Amen! plus rep if I could, it must be spread first :(

sleeperluv
07-06-10, 11:05 PM
Amen! plus rep if I could, it must be spread first :( I look at it the other way it has nothing to do with football..
it is a freebie when you buy the new digital version of brave heart on dvd you get a flag in the box ...............Blimey there is some crazey film boffs out there

Jack
08-06-10, 12:11 PM
tbf **** the immigrants im not racist but could you imagine a group of christians moving to one of there countries
They did, about a thousand years ago (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_crusades) lol

mowgli
08-06-10, 01:01 PM
i've been trying to find the crusader cinema ad....... and failed...