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Steve0011
15-05-10, 08:28 PM
I cant get this engine to run and its now really doin my head in now :(

between my mate and i using autodata we have checked every sensors all the pin outs from the ecu and found no errors at all. ECU reports no errors just code 12 flashes

the plugs have a spark, fuel pressure is spot on and the injectors are getting pulses (checked with LED) all the earths are checked and checked again

TPS and idle stepper motor are ok too

we have found only 2 things that are not as they should be??

1. each injector meters at 12.6 ohms and autodata says they should be 15 to 16.5 ohms, so they are a bit low

2. Coil pin 1 metred to the HT should be between 5000 - 6000 ohms and it reads 6800 ohms this is too high?

are the above enough to stop the engine starting?

BTW yes it does have petrol ;)

steve

david dixon
15-05-10, 11:54 PM
compression?

David.

Lee
15-05-10, 11:56 PM
Checked the timing?

Steve0011
16-05-10, 12:07 AM
dam forgot those :)

compression is spot on on the high part of the green on the tester i expected that after a head skim also the timing is ok

i am suspecting i might have the wrong coil for the engine??? it came out of a 1.4 single point if i remember correctly

does anyone know what coil i need for the multipoint engine? WR is in the back of my mind?

steve

Danny s-p
16-05-10, 12:54 AM
dam forgot those :)

compression is spot on on the high part of the green on the tester i expected that after a head skim also the timing is ok

i am suspecting i might have the wrong coil for the engine??? it came out of a 1.4 single point if i remember correctly

does anyone know what coil i need for the multipoint engine? WR is in the back of my mind?

stevei have one for sale of a multipoint mate

Danny s-p
16-05-10, 12:55 AM
http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144961

coil pack in there some were

Steve0011
16-05-10, 01:05 AM
thanks but i have 2 of those and the ecu :)

the loom i am using is for the older coil type not coilpack

thanks anyway

anyone?

Danny s-p
16-05-10, 01:14 AM
your use normal coil just i thort all c14se ran on coil pack. as they were the corsa and nova sri engine that ran on coil pack

Steve0011
16-05-10, 01:24 AM
well not this loom :)

david dixon
16-05-10, 10:06 AM
there was dizzy and coilpack 14se's

David.

Steve0011
16-05-10, 10:21 AM
there was dizzy and coilpack 14se's

David.

i know, iv'e got one ;)

does anyone have a c14se engine and a metre to give me the ohms readings from each injector and pin 1 to HT on the coil?

also can someone confirm if the WR coil is the right one for this engine?

thanks

Danny s-p
16-05-10, 12:12 PM
there was dizzy and coilpack 14se's

David.dave was the dizzy one not e14se or some think and the coilpack c14se

AlexW
16-05-10, 12:25 PM
No, There is no such thing as a E14SE, They are all C14SE, Coilpack or dizzy.

Danny s-p
16-05-10, 12:52 PM
No, There is no such thing as a E14SE, They are all C14SE, Coilpack or dizzy.are ok all go sit in the corner now:thumb:

burgo
16-05-10, 01:09 PM
you say the timing is ok but are u sure? the reason i ask is someone during the week was certain he had the timing correct but didnt

Steve0011
16-05-10, 03:15 PM
just to say the timing is spot on my mate who was with me yesterday is a machanic

ANYWAY IT LIVES :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Went to the scrappy and got a WR coil, the engine was more on the point of starting than ever before but still not running......

i then adjusted the fuel reg (has a gauge) to 5.5 bar (twice what it should be) and after a bit of trying IT STARTED and ran on tickover for 15 minutes til i turned it off

so i think the injectors are either knacked or dirty. i tend to think knacked as i have a spare set and the car did'nt start with them either

:d :d :d :d :d