Built not Bought, WTF is the point?

[MattBrown]

Bit of a rant looming.

Serious dose of the cba's

Ploughinh £5k into a **** old piece of **** nova.

Could go and buy one for £2500

WTF is the point?

CBA with this ****ty little wnk fukin vauxhall piece of poo!

So, So, stressed with it.

PILE OF ****TE:mad: :mad:

[Spudly]

Scrap it then and buy one :p

[Shaun]

Scrap it then and buy one :p

+1 lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

then if/when you realise half the things on it have been bodged you will wish you did it yourself and spent 5k :p

[krobinson]

Grow up.

[Saloony]

Better still.. scrap it, get something french, and go bother some french owners forums lol

[Spudly]

Grow up.



LMFAO, give this man a cookie lol

[Edd]

What's ACTUALLY wrong with the one you have ?
Thought you had been collecting lots of parts ?

Or is it that your skills fail ATM ? lol

[krobinson]

I actually ment to say, grow a set of balls, **** happens, its annoying and frustrating, but if you keep at it things always work out.

[MattBrown]

+1 lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

then if/when you realise half the things on it have been bodged you will wish you did it yourself and spent 5k :p

Thats the only saving grace, I know whats been done, whats been welded, whats been strengthened etc.

Only thing is I hate doing bodywork, Ill pull lumps in and out all day, and wirings my job, so I enjoy that, but I seriously CBA with this pile of shat anymore

Too much rust, still got the upper front pannel to fit, and fit a back pannel

But, when its done, it will be 99% rightlol

[Mazz]

Better still.. scrap it, get something french, and go bother some french owners forums lol

Now there's an idea, save all the pointless threads...

[Shaun]

I actually ment to say, grow a set of balls, **** happens, its annoying and frustrating, but if you keep at it things always work out.

you know that more than anyone :thumb:

[blue_peg_16v]

personaly id rather build you know whats been done then and whats been bodged

[MattBrown]

What's ACTUALLY wrong with the one you have ?
Thought you had been collecting lots of parts ?

Or is it that your skills fail ATM ? lol

Haha, not lack of skills, lack of patience with bodywork, Im trying to do it all myself, except the paint on the top.

Cage is basically in now, and I still have front upper pannel to do, and a back pannel, 2 arches, interior, make bucket mounts, primer the whole car, put engine and box in, sort all suspention etc.

What is the point, as it will only be as quick, as some thrown together mess of a c20xe nova:cry:

[NovaLad]

I'd rather build a nova than buy 1 because it's your own personal touches that make it the car that it is.
If you go and buy someone elses work it's all well and good but their isn't a personal touch to it and therefore it's just like any other car.

[MattBrown]

I'd rather build a nova than buy 1 because it's your own personal touches that make it the car that it is.
If you go and buy someone elses work it's all well and good but their isn't a personal touch to it and therefore it's just like any other car.

I know, just in a bad patch with the ****ter, lol

All will be well, just abit poo, having to get lifts to your garage, cz you have no car:(

[Jack]

Build is better IMO; yes its more effort, but at the end you have a car that you built. As said, you can build it how you like it, and more importantly you know the quality level of the work. Plus if you buy thats £2500 outright, where as building allows a higher budget which is spread out over time.

Or do what I do and just comission Lee to do all the hard work whilst I mince around painting bits of trim LOL

[Shaun]

if thats all your worried about, sell it all and buy a thrown together sh*t box nova.

if you want a decent nova that will last more than 3 months, then carry on as you are.

building mine has taken over a year and most the hard work was done when i got it. take a few days away from it, then re attack it with a fresh head. you will get loads more done next time you go work on it than staying working now when your angry and want to smash it :)

[Shaun]

where as building allows a higher budget which is spread out over time.


lol i have to keep my reciepts out the way of the missus:cool:

[NovaLad]

Can i comission krobinson or Joff to build me a nova lol.

I HAZ MILK TOKENZ!

[MattBrown]

if thats all your worried about, sell it all and buy a thrown together sh*t box nova.

if you want a decent nova that will last more than 3 months, then carry on as you are.

building mine has taken over a year and most the hard work was done when i got it. take a few days away from it, then re attack it with a fresh head. you will get loads more done next time you go work on it than staying working now when your angry and want to smash it :)

That is a big problem for me, killed a bonnet the other day, because it looked at me funnylol

Yeah, me and a mate are going down tommorow to finish the cage, gonna have a bbq, and drag it outside to work on, weather permitting.

Think I need to see some more nova GTE's to spur me on.

I think the main disheartener is CoolTigers GTI, £2000, streight out the box, its almost as quick as a 2l nova, maybe 1s in it from 0-100

Ahh well, back to stripping underseal, and painting the underside for melol

[NovaLad]

Bang aload of GTE posters around inside your garage to look at well you work...
Or better yet a naked pic of a llaaayyddeee!

[MattBrown]

Bang aload of GTE posters around inside your garage to look at well you work...
Or better yet a naked pic of a llaaayyddeee!

HMM, I wonder if work would let me use the a0.5 plotter, its seriosuly huge lol

Nah, the mrs would distract me, I mean, what would you rather look at?

An old pile of rusty ****ty nova, or an 18 year old with nothing on?

[Andy]

Least you have a helping hand i did mine on my own with no help other than off my dad to mount the engine for a couple of hours
Stop moaning like a gay and get on with it.Youve banged on about valvers and turbo's for as long as youve been a member so get ya finger out your ring piece,get off here and get on with it

[John]

Do you actually have a wip?

[NovaLad]

Nah, the mrs would distract me, I mean, what would you rather look at?

An old pile of rusty ****ty nova, or an 18 year old with nothing on?

Personally i'd rather look at my 16 year old gf with nothing on LMFAAOOO!!!

But i see your point!
Crack on sunny jim! lol.

[MattBrown]

Do you actually have a wip?

Nope, not too sure about them tbh.

Then everyone knows what, where, and who is in your garage etc.

After the mk3 astra let got stolen and torched, I dont fancy my nova going missinglol

[MattBrown]

Hmm, may start a w.i.p, ive not got many pics though lol

[Jack]

Come to think of it, I was talking to Lee the other day about cost of my V6.

I reckon it stands me at about £1k all-in, including building the initial XE version. Ok, its cost me more in terms of buying stuff, but I've recouped money by selling stuff I didn't need.

Not bad, £1k for 210bhp. A decent LET engine alone would probably cost you that lol

[Andy]

Nope, not too sure about them tbh.

Then everyone knows what, where, and who is in your garage etc.

After the mk3 astra let got stolen and torched, I dont fancy my nova going missinglol
Exactly the reason why i havent done one,only the previous owner (member off here) of my car has pics of the w.i.p
And spudnik of course

[John]

Nope, not too sure about them tbh.

Then everyone knows what, where, and who is in your garage etc.

After the mk3 astra let got stolen and torched, I dont fancy my nova going missinglol

Only if you put your address next to the pictures! Or offer a bbq sesh at yourslol

[burgo]

all very well but you cant buy a nova estate so i HAD to build one

[Edd]

lol i have to keep my reciepts out the way of the missus:cool:
I have to do this also lol

dread to think what she would say if I told her how much the Sport cost

[Shaun]

yeh my new inlet only cost £100 sweetie ;)

haha aslong as she gets treated occasionally she stays happy

[MattBrown]

yeh my new inlet only cost £100 sweetie ;)

haha aslong as she gets treated occasionally she stays happy

Yup, mines not arsed, aslong as we see each other once a week, and she stays here once a week, shes happy:thumb:

Started a WIP for those who care/wana rob it/like melol

[Edd]

Matt, wip threads can work in your favour, if you need advice on something, or are doing something in correctly most people on here would be more than happy to help you out.

[Shaun]

you only see her once a week?

i couldnt only have sex once a week?!

[NovaLad]

you only see her once a week?

i couldnt only have sex once a week?!

Whos said he has sex once in that 1 night a week lol
Maybe he pushes the boat out and does is twice lol

[MattBrown]

Whos said he has sex once in that 1 night a week lol
Mabe he pushes the boat out and does is twice lol

Lol, sex, big fat chineese, sleeplol

[NovaLad]

Lol, sex with a big fat chineese lady boy, sleeplol
Quoted for truth.

[Shaun]

big fat chineese

hoping that isnt your missus :confused:

[MattBrown]

Quoted for truth.
CNUTlol


hoping that isnt your missus :confused:
Nah, local chineese take away owner FAE, bugger is making me fatlol

[Mazz]

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=Built+not+Bought&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=

[Hobbit]

Building them is fun.

[MattBrown]

Love it mazz:)

Hobbit, I agree, anything except bodywork is fun!

But, I did love painting my xe bits, covers etc lol

[Adam]

Its costing you 5k?

WTF are you building?

300bhp let nova from scratch?

You can do a xe nova for a grand

[MattBrown]

I wish you could adam, a decent shell costs £1000 these days lol

[CoolTiger]

body work isnt bad but doing it everyday blags

[MattBrown]

body work isnt bad but doing it everyday blags

Its ****, factlol

[blue_peg_16v]

you must look harder matt and not just on the net

novas in decent nick can still be had for next to nothing

[MK999]

I wish you could adam, a decent shell costs £1000 these days lol

Actually you struggle to give them away most of the time, mine has probably made more in parts than I spent acquiring :p

[Adam]

I wish you could adam, a decent shell costs £1000 these days lol

Mine cost me fook all tbh.
And my shell cost me a few hundred..

Ok, i had quite a few bits on my white one that i swapped over. But i still reckon it cost me about £1200 all in.
I dont think i could of bought a similar spec nova for £1200!

[CoolTiger]

Its ****, factlol

lol got any wiring kits at yours ?

[MattBrown]

lol got any wiring kits at yours ?

Yeah, none forsale thoughlol

[CoolTiger]

aaww gonna just give them me insted :D?

[MattBrown]

No lol

[CoolTiger]

lol

[L33 LEG]

Its costing you 5k?

WTF are you building?

300bhp let nova from scratch?

You can do a xe nova for a grand

I was thinking this. Looked at his wip and for the bits he listed it was over £2k. Im pretty sure my nova all in stands me at around £1300.

Just bloody build it and stop moaning. If i was you and had all the bits there like you do, i wouldnt sleep all weekend until its running.

[vauxluva]

Thats the only saving grace, I know whats been done, whats been welded, whats been strengthened etc.

Only thing is I hate doing bodywork, Ill pull lumps in and out all day, and wirings my job, so I enjoy that, but I seriously CBA with this pile of shat anymore

Too much rust, still got the upper front pannel to fit, and fit a back pannel

But, when its done, it will be 99% rightlolI call it machanix block im good with a spaner and ok with a welder not body worklol

[vauxluva]

Mine ows me £450 including buying the car for £100 i have replaced both front wongs both rear arches alloy wheels boot lid wich got stolen. Cd player paint and got nows how much mig wire.lol

[Lee]

For me, 70% of the fun is in the building of the thing. Why do you think Rexy buys a car, paints it, and then gets bored and sells it? We all love taking the pee out of him for it, but he loves fiddling with cars more than driving them, so fair play.

If you are truely not enjoying building it, buy one ready made. Nothing wrong with that at all IMO. Horses for courses.

[burgo]

my estate owes me about £500 and ive done sheet loads of miles in it.

the saloon owes me about £1500-£2000 and is a bare shell now that has done 200 miles!!!!! errr

[L33 LEG]

For me, 70% of the fun is in the building of the thing. Why do you think Rexy buys a car, paints it, and then gets bored and sells it? We all love taking the pee out of him for it, but he loves fiddling with cars more than driving them, so fair play.

If you are truely not enjoying building it, buy one ready made. Nothing wrong with that at all IMO. Horses for courses.

I have always told people i prefer to build them than drive them. All the cars i have had in the past and i hardly ever drive lol

[Mark]

The satisfaction of knowing that I made it they way I want it...Crap or not.

[Sloth]

my corsa owes me £100. thats with a 2.0, fitting kit, and a load of other stuff. and i prefer building em, but the feeling of planting it for the first time, is something else. matt, is it your first xe?

[dj_wudgey]

get it done mate when its done you know you will love it!

[Mieran]

I wish you could adam, a decent shell costs £1000 these days lol

I disagree.

[Sloth]

/\ 2nded, theres some great shells going for 300. speak to col smith.

[MattBrown]

my corsa owes me £100. thats with a 2.0, fitting kit, and a load of other stuff. and i prefer building em, but the feeling of planting it for the first time, is something else. matt, is it your first xe?

The first one i own, but had several engines in the other nova, and did a 2l corsa for a local lad.


Its clearly not £100 worth of stuff though sloth, for example, would you sell it for £100? Thought not:roll:

[Sloth]

The first one i own, but had several engines in the other nova, and did a 2l corsa for a local lad.


Its clearly not £100 worth of stuff though sloth, for example, would you sell it for £100? Thought not:roll:

doesnt matter. i paid £80 for the car, and sold £75 of stuff off it. so it cost £5. i got the mounts for £30 and the shafts for £30. i swapped the 1.6 i got for free for a 2.0, and ive spent £30 on sundry stuff. id prob sell it when ikts done for £500.

[Rysee]

Why didn't you start with a good shell if you hate the bodywork?

[MattBrown]

Why didn't you start with a good shell if you hate the bodywork?

Good idea at the timelol

[Benn]

So you bought a sh*tter and now your moaning?

Kinda your own fault. Why not spend some money get most the body work done in stead of buying crap...

[MattBrown]

So you bought a sh*tter and now your moaning?

Kinda your own fault. Why not spend some money get most the body work done in stead of buying crap...

I havent bought any crap though?

Everything I have, I need.

Im not moaning, just fed up atm lol

Cant see the point in someone else doing the bodywork, then its not my car is it?

[burgo]

I havent bought any crap though?

Everything I have, I need.

Im not moaning, just fed up atm lol

Cant see the point in someone else doing the bodywork, then its not my car is it?

does that mean being as i didnt physically spray my saloon or make and fit the roll cage make it not my car now then :confused:

[Lee]

Cant see the point in someone else doing the bodywork, then its not my car is it?

Biggest back pedal from original post EVAR lol

[MattBrown]

does that mean being as i didnt physically spray my saloon or make and fit the roll cage make it not my car now then :confused:
Not at all, but its something ive committed to, and im gonna do it, when i cbalol


Biggest back pedal from original post EVAR lol
Nope, its still a piece of ****lol

[Rysee]

What does the v5 say? Dave the bodywork guy who was drafted in to help? Nope it says Matt Brown. Plenty of people try to do everything and end up unhappy, read peoples write ups in the mags... Couldn't have done it without Dave the bodyshop guy... I.E sometimes no Dave no perfection. So you'll end up with a motor that owes you 5k that is only worth it's parts as someone would strip it 'cause the shells a welded unprofessionally painted shed

[MattBrown]

What does the v5 say? Dave the bodywork guy who was drafted in to help? Nope it says Matt Brown. Plenty of people try to do everything and end up unhappy, read peoples write ups in the mags... Couldn't have done it without Dave the bodyshop guy... I.E sometimes no Dave no perfection. So you'll end up with a motor that owes you 5k that is pnly worth it's partsd as someone would strip it cause the shells a welded unprofesionallly painted shed

Im doing it, because i want to / wanted to at the timelol

Couldnt agree more, its being painted by rexy, but i want to do as much as I can, and the hardest part is the bodywork for me:wtf:

[Benn]

I havent bought any crap though?

Everything I have, I need.

Im not moaning, just fed up atm lol

Cant see the point in someone else doing the bodywork, then its not my car is it?

lol just case you don't do every single thing on the car doesn't mean its not yours.. Where the funk did you get the idea?

You cant do everything, no one can...

And your moaning about having to do bodywork.. Why did you buy one that was clean and rust free..

[Rysee]

Im doing it, because i want to / wanted to at the timelol

Couldnt agree more, its being painted by rexy, but i want to do as much as I can, and the hardest part is the bodywork for me:wtf:


Thank you for seeing some sense +1

[dj_wudgey]

get stuck in and get it done mate! ive bin there but as soon as i move wash ect lol i get the motivation back!

[nitrousnova]

I bought an ex total vauxhall feature car for 2500 thinking it would have done properly and have since spent about 3000+ on it sorting out all the bodges.

[Novaboi_1991]

meh. scrap it n get a corsa. win win all round.

[sparkie1401]

mines 7 years in the making on wednesday, just sorned the old girl again FTW

hindsight lol

[Mike]

For me, 70% of the fun is in the building of the thing. Why do you think Rexy buys a car, paints it, and then gets bored and sells it? We all love taking the pee out of him for it, but he loves fiddling with cars more than driving them, so fair play.

If you are truely not enjoying building it, buy one ready made. Nothing wrong with that at all IMO. Horses for courses.

Amen to that! The best bit is the building :)

[sparkie1401]

meh. scrap it n get a corsa. win win all round.

FAIL lol

[Novaboi_1991]

aye it is a fail... but would stop him whining about bodywork and rust... being newer etc lol.

[Bubba]

meh. scrap it n get a corsa. win win all round.

go and join "corsasport"
buy a burburry cap

[Mieran]

aye it is a fail... but would stop him whining about bodywork and rust... being newer etc lol.

I was at my local corsa sport meet a few week ago, some of the corsas there had much more rust than me lol

[Benn]

aye it is a fail... but would stop him whining about bodywork and rust... being newer etc lol.


Being "newer" means funk all, Corsa rust just as bad.. I've put a sill on one.

[craig green]

Nope, not too sure about them tbh.

Then everyone knows what, where, and who is in your garage etc.

After the mk3 astra let got stolen and torched, I dont fancy my nova going missinglol

I was going to suggest putting a WIP in the club area, but you arent a member.

[Adam]

Corsa B's rust like fook!!!

Ive seen some completely rotten 1998/1999 model's

[MK999]

Corsa B's rust like fook!!!

Ive seen some completely rotten 1998/1999 model's

I remember Joff having rust issues with his mrs corsa B that seemed nicely kept?

[Vausey_Nova_Knotla]

lmao how old are you my freind come on its a ****ing car sell it move on you have very very serious issues!

[Paul]

My inlet manifold has blown itself to pieces, day after i put it back together after the HG went. Oh and it was spitting too much oil out of the breather. And i destroyed a CV joint. Lol

[SRimon]

I'd agree the fun is in the build.

My SR body wise is done, and altho the standard colour etc, I love seeing bodywork come together. My two previous builds i've had colour changes. Gives uniqueness. This SR was supposed to be a fit and forget Nova, but I keep thinking I wanna go mental on a build again. With that though, i've bought the wrong car - its value is that its a tidy SR!

Man up and get on with it.

[MattBrown]

My inlet manifold has blown itself to pieces, day after i put it back together after the HG went. Oh and it was spitting too much oil out of the breather. And i destroyed a CV joint. Lol

Haha, sounds like good funlol

When mechanical stuff breaks im not assed, but i hate bodywork lol

Prefer to "See" results, not do something for 3 hours, and see nothinglol

[mk1nova_rich]

Haha, sounds like good funlol

When mechanical stuff breaks im not assed, but i hate bodywork lol

Prefer to "See" results, not do something for 3 hours, and see nothinglol

if you dont like doing bodywork why have you bought a C-reg Nova.... :wtf:

[CoolTiger]

lol just case you don't do every single thing on the car doesn't mean its not yours.. Where the funk did you get the idea?

You cant do everything, no one can...

And your moaning about having to do bodywork.. Why did you buy one that was clean and rust free..


i can :cool:

[Sloth]

painters are all high on thinners anyway..... :D

[Benn]

Haha, sounds like good funlol

When mechanical stuff breaks im not assed, but i hate bodywork lol

Prefer to "See" results, not do something for 3 hours, and see nothinglol

That's not true, if you are doing it right you'll see results quite fast...

[MattBrown]

i can :cool:

No you cant though, as you had your mate paint it.

Thats the thing, with paint, if it looks a tw4t then it ruins the carlol

[Benn]

i can :cool:

Technically i can do, but i don't do everything my self. I'd never paint a body panel on mine..

[taffnova]

leave it couple days then go back all ways work

[Connor]

I love doing stuff on my own car,
especially when i have never done it.
I get more of a buzz out of building and once there built there is nowt to do on the weekends lol

[taffnova]

i got that feeling now lol i keep looking for some thing ie oil leak wheel bearing anything lol

[joff-turbo-nova]

I remember Joff having rust issues with his mrs corsa B that seemed nicely kept?

Too right - around the bottom arms seemed a problem area - rusting from the inside out and round where the petrol filler neck is.

The car has now moved on to a new owner now and we are on Meriva power - see below !

Joff

[joff-turbo-nova]

Can i comission krobinson or Joff to build me a nova lol.

I HAZ MILK TOKENZ!

lol lol lol lol

Building it up over a number of years spreads the cost as Jack mentioned - I see no satisfaction in just getting your cheque book/ visa card out personally.

Joff

[Bubba]

Technically i can do, but i don't do everything my self. I'd never paint a body panel on mine..

i refuse to pay for a paintjob! lol

[Dan]

Matt if you want a small bit of inspiration and see a few of the cock ups i made then have a browse through this...........

http://www.pngclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89482


I did the whole learning curve route myself and made a few mistakes along the way but the light at the end of the tunnel was great. That thread is due a juicy update in a few days hopefully (fingers crossed). Theres alot of chatter at the start but scrolling for the pics will soon make it a quick thread lol

[Benn]

i refuse to pay for a paintjob! lol

You pay for what you get.. I want the best possible.

[dj_wudgey]

same here id rather pay a little more and get a realy good finish!

[craig green]

You pay for what you get.. I want the best possible.

You get what you pay for. :d

[dj_wudgey]

thats why id be happy to pay what most people would regard as expenisive!!

[Benn]

You get what you pay for. :d

Same thing...lol

[MattBrown]

Agreed, hopefully rexy is going to paint it.

But ill see what happens, got 12 months to decide now:(

[Jack]

Agreed, hopefully rexy is going to paint it.
Hide the blue paint! lol

[MattBrown]

Hide the blue paint! lol

Meh, he can do what he wants.

Aslong as its carmine red:thumb: